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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,590
    edited January 2018
    The most fall from grace was, in my opinion, The Fisher Radio Company.

    That's probably true -- but essentially all of the great American hifi names took that fall, to some extent: Sherwood, HH Scott, Marantz (Superscope). Not as bad, probably -- but still a loss when these companies changed hands to larger corporate owners.

    Oh, I almost forgot KLH and Advent ;)

    EDIT: Come to think of it, hk pretty much beat the rap. The "Citation" line retained much of its lustre for decades -- and, love him or hate him, the late Sidney Harman stayed at the helm (albeit ever higher up) for basically the rest of his long life.



  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,848
    At least Avery Fisher was able to build Fisher Hall in New York with the proceeds of the sale. Marantz has retained most of its original luster.
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,648
    HH Scott....always loved their stuff from way back when. Always sounded good to my ears and built like a tank. Then again, most vintage gear was in that era.

    I think they all fell, some not as hard as others, when the energy conserving craze took hold. Everyone was cheaping out on the power supplies, thinner casings and the rave was the all in one stack of components with cheap speakers to keep that price point at a certain level.

    Fisher....actually had some nice component stack systems back then.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,590
    At least Avery Fisher was able to build Fisher Hall in New York with the proceeds of the sale. Marantz has retained most of its original luster.

    1. Yeah, but they're renaming Fisher Hall, right? :(

    2. I think I'd say that Marantz has managed to regain much of its original lustre.

    There was some pretty hideous "Marantz" equipment there for a while.

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  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,848
    Oh no, Sanyo Hall?
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,369
    tonyb wrote: »
    HH Scott....always loved their stuff from way back when. Always sounded good to my ears and built like a tank. Then again, most vintage gear was in that era.

    I think they all fell, some not as hard as others, when the energy conserving craze took hold. Everyone was cheaping out on the power supplies, thinner casings and the rave was the all in one stack of components with cheap speakers to keep that price point at a certain level.

    Fisher....actually had some nice component stack systems back then.

    Is this one of the stack systems you're refering too? Look at the black "Studio Standard by Fisher" components in the corner.

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    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,280
    ^^ That's a major award you got there on top of that stack.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,590
    I ran it through an anagram generator -- here's one of the better ones:
    Oh Holy Nasal No


  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,590
    some HH Scott stuff, made in Maynard MA.

    11375465156_b03733c7d8_z.jpggreat scott by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    I don't have any of the really nice Scott stuff as I am a poor fellow. I do have a fairly nice Scott 222c integrated amplifier, though.

    HH Scott's chief engineer was Daniel von Recklingshausen.
    He once said, rather famously:
    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing."


    http://hhscott.com/vonrecklinghausen.htm
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,280
    Aloha Ho Nylons
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,590
    edited January 2018
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Aloha Ho Nylons

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    Coincidence? I think not. :)


    There were even worse anagrams, but I didn't want Ken to have to censor them ;)
  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,848
    Is that a BIC antenna on top? If so, they actually worked in some situations, namely crowded FM locations with too many broadcasting stations.
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,369
    Clipdat wrote: »
    ^^ That's a major award you got there on top of that stack.

    Yea, it's FRAGILE too.

    Do you want to hear the STORY where that came from? :o PM style.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,369
    edited January 2018
    Is that a BIC antenna on top? If so, they actually worked in some situations, namely crowded FM locations with too many broadcasting stations.

    Yes it is. I have 2 of them. They work pretty well here in Wilm. But I only have a 180* land mass to deal with. Not too many stations here in the past but this City has grown and there's a lot more stations now. I just use rabitt ears or some older aclaimed powered antennes on my systems out in the man-cave. The 2nd BIC beambox has been in service in my living room for 15+ years easy. I do like how the stations get clearer when I turn those knobs. Proves they do work, huh. :pB)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,140
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    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,619
    If anyone is in the market for a mortage...you might get some free speakers thrown
    in with the deal.

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  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,492
    edited May 30
    She's got crazy eyes...
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,369
    Big mouth too.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,369
    DaveHo wrote: »
    She's got crazy eyes...

    Those eyes could turn into "angry eyes" :#
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,148
    Don't know if I would want the last round from Thiel. They went under for a reason and an overpriced under performing product might be one reason.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • aiconnaiconn Registered User Posts: 218
    Tony M wrote: »
    Big mouth too.

    There are good uses for that...
    Peachtree novaPre
    Parasound HCA-1000A
    Denon DVD 2910
    Polk Audio LSiM 703s
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,648
    mrloren wrote: »
    Don't know if I would want the last round from Thiel. They went under for a reason and an overpriced under performing product might be one reason.

    Might agree with that, never heard any of their speakers that tickled my fancy.

    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,410
    They were built just down the road from me so everyone here in this area carried them...I remember a guy telling me how perfect they were as I listened in disbelief. I couldn't believe this guy was actually telling me that what I wasn't hearing was what I was supposed to be hearing. That shop didn't last too long.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,428
    The 3.6 were a speaker that I absolutely LOVED. They weren’t as bright as the 2.2, but had a lot of slam for a speaker their size.
    2-channel
    Yaqin MC-30L, Marantz SA8005, Denon DVD 3900, Sony C69ES CD Changer, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Klipsch KG-4, Monster Cable throughout.
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,350
    I had a pair of the 3.5s, which I really liked. Very detailed speaker. Sounded great with jazz and female vocals. They loved power and improved with the quality of upstream gear and cabling. Just did not have the punch for rock that I want. So therefore, I considered them a situational speaker.

    Unfortunately, the Thiel brand died with its founder Jim Thiel. Anything I heard that they made after his death was not up to par with the products made on his watch. I stopped by the Thiel room at AXPONA a few years back and was completely underwhelmed. They had some floorstanders driven by some Mark Levinson gear. That room was the most disappointing room I went to that day.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,893
    edited August 27
    BDT wrote: »

    That CEO babe? Worth a clean rag and a heavy dose of chloroform......

    BDT

    OH MY GAWWWWD that is freaking hilarious ...

    Killin me Troy

  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,428
    BDT wrote: »
    Dredge from the dead......

    Didn't realize they had closed up shop......when Jim Thiel passed, the handwriting was on the wall. I've heard some Thiel's that I didn't like but I've got a pair of 3.6's that I absolutely LOVE. Probably my favorite all around speaker ever......and updated AR9, if you will. Lot of folks feel about Thiel the way I feel about Vandersteen....just could never dig 'em.

    That CEO babe? Worth a clean rag and a heavy dose of chloroform......

    BDT

    Theil 3.6's were my dream speaker for a very long time. I understand that Jim had trouble coming up with a design that bettered the 3.6 and that's why it took so long for the 3.7 to be released. Either way, the 3.6's mated with an LS9 pre and McCormack DNA 1, made the hair on my arms stand on end.
    2-channel
    Yaqin MC-30L, Marantz SA8005, Denon DVD 3900, Sony C69ES CD Changer, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Klipsch KG-4, Monster Cable throughout.
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