Thiel Audio to Close

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,905
    edited January 2018
    The most fall from grace was, in my opinion, The Fisher Radio Company.

    That's probably true -- but essentially all of the great American hifi names took that fall, to some extent: Sherwood, HH Scott, Marantz (Superscope). Not as bad, probably -- but still a loss when these companies changed hands to larger corporate owners.

    Oh, I almost forgot KLH and Advent ;)

    EDIT: Come to think of it, hk pretty much beat the rap. The "Citation" line retained much of its lustre for decades -- and, love him or hate him, the late Sidney Harman stayed at the helm (albeit ever higher up) for basically the rest of his long life.



  • At least Avery Fisher was able to build Fisher Hall in New York with the proceeds of the sale. Marantz has retained most of its original luster.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    HH Scott....always loved their stuff from way back when. Always sounded good to my ears and built like a tank. Then again, most vintage gear was in that era.

    I think they all fell, some not as hard as others, when the energy conserving craze took hold. Everyone was cheaping out on the power supplies, thinner casings and the rave was the all in one stack of components with cheap speakers to keep that price point at a certain level.

    Fisher....actually had some nice component stack systems back then.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,905
    At least Avery Fisher was able to build Fisher Hall in New York with the proceeds of the sale. Marantz has retained most of its original luster.

    1. Yeah, but they're renaming Fisher Hall, right? :(

    2. I think I'd say that Marantz has managed to regain much of its original lustre.

    There was some pretty hideous "Marantz" equipment there for a while.

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  • Oh no, Sanyo Hall?
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,163
    tonyb wrote: »
    HH Scott....always loved their stuff from way back when. Always sounded good to my ears and built like a tank. Then again, most vintage gear was in that era.

    I think they all fell, some not as hard as others, when the energy conserving craze took hold. Everyone was cheaping out on the power supplies, thinner casings and the rave was the all in one stack of components with cheap speakers to keep that price point at a certain level.

    Fisher....actually had some nice component stack systems back then.

    Is this one of the stack systems you're refering too? Look at the black "Studio Standard by Fisher" components in the corner.

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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,949
    ^^ That's a major award you got there on top of that stack.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,905
    I ran it through an anagram generator -- here's one of the better ones:
    Oh Holy Nasal No


  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,905
    some HH Scott stuff, made in Maynard MA.

    11375465156_b03733c7d8_z.jpggreat scott by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    I don't have any of the really nice Scott stuff as I am a poor fellow. I do have a fairly nice Scott 222c integrated amplifier, though.

    HH Scott's chief engineer was Daniel von Recklingshausen.
    He once said, rather famously:
    "If it measures good and sounds bad, -- it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, -- you've measured the wrong thing."


    http://hhscott.com/vonrecklinghausen.htm
  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,949
    Aloha Ho Nylons
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,905
    edited January 2018
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Aloha Ho Nylons

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    Coincidence? I think not. :)


    There were even worse anagrams, but I didn't want Ken to have to censor them ;)
  • Is that a BIC antenna on top? If so, they actually worked in some situations, namely crowded FM locations with too many broadcasting stations.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,163
    Clipdat wrote: »
    ^^ That's a major award you got there on top of that stack.

    Yea, it's FRAGILE too.

    Do you want to hear the STORY where that came from? :o PM style.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,163
    edited January 2018
    Is that a BIC antenna on top? If so, they actually worked in some situations, namely crowded FM locations with too many broadcasting stations.

    Yes it is. I have 2 of them. They work pretty well here in Wilm. But I only have a 180* land mass to deal with. Not too many stations here in the past but this City has grown and there's a lot more stations now. I just use rabitt ears or some older aclaimed powered antennes on my systems out in the man-cave. The 2nd BIC beambox has been in service in my living room for 15+ years easy. I do like how the stations get clearer when I turn those knobs. Proves they do work, huh. :pB)
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    tonyb wrote: »
    If that's the CEO of Thiel, no wonder. No CEO should dress like that. Unless your selling Glamor magazines.

    I just found out today that Thiel had closed. Their former CEO is now working as a mortgage loan originator.

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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,653
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    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    If anyone is in the market for a mortage...you might get some free speakers thrown
    in with the deal.

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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,536
    edited May 2019
    She's got crazy eyes...
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,163
    Big mouth too.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,163
    DaveHo wrote: »
    She's got crazy eyes...

    Those eyes could turn into "angry eyes" :#
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    Don't know if I would want the last round from Thiel. They went under for a reason and an overpriced under performing product might be one reason.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • aiconn
    aiconn Posts: 277
    Tony M wrote: »
    Big mouth too.

    There are good uses for that...
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    mrloren wrote: »
    Don't know if I would want the last round from Thiel. They went under for a reason and an overpriced under performing product might be one reason.

    Might agree with that, never heard any of their speakers that tickled my fancy.

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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    They were built just down the road from me so everyone here in this area carried them...I remember a guy telling me how perfect they were as I listened in disbelief. I couldn't believe this guy was actually telling me that what I wasn't hearing was what I was supposed to be hearing. That shop didn't last too long.
  • xsmi
    xsmi Posts: 1,798
    The 3.6 were a speaker that I absolutely LOVED. They weren’t as bright as the 2.2, but had a lot of slam for a speaker their size.
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,645
    I had a pair of the 3.5s, which I really liked. Very detailed speaker. Sounded great with jazz and female vocals. They loved power and improved with the quality of upstream gear and cabling. Just did not have the punch for rock that I want. So therefore, I considered them a situational speaker.

    Unfortunately, the Thiel brand died with its founder Jim Thiel. Anything I heard that they made after his death was not up to par with the products made on his watch. I stopped by the Thiel room at AXPONA a few years back and was completely underwhelmed. They had some floorstanders driven by some Mark Levinson gear. That room was the most disappointing room I went to that day.
  • BDT
    BDT Posts: 212
    Dredge from the dead......

    Didn't realize they had closed up shop......when Jim Thiel passed, the handwriting was on the wall. I've heard some Thiel's that I didn't like but I've got a pair of 3.6's that I absolutely LOVE. Probably my favorite all around speaker ever......and updated AR9, if you will. Lot of folks feel about Thiel the way I feel about Vandersteen....just could never dig 'em.

    That CEO babe? Worth a clean rag and a heavy dose of chloroform......

    BDT
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,571
    edited August 2019
    BDT wrote: »

    That CEO babe? Worth a clean rag and a heavy dose of chloroform......

    BDT

    OH MY GAWWWWD that is freaking hilarious ...

    Killin me Troy

  • xsmi
    xsmi Posts: 1,798
    BDT wrote: »
    Dredge from the dead......

    Didn't realize they had closed up shop......when Jim Thiel passed, the handwriting was on the wall. I've heard some Thiel's that I didn't like but I've got a pair of 3.6's that I absolutely LOVE. Probably my favorite all around speaker ever......and updated AR9, if you will. Lot of folks feel about Thiel the way I feel about Vandersteen....just could never dig 'em.

    That CEO babe? Worth a clean rag and a heavy dose of chloroform......

    BDT

    Theil 3.6's were my dream speaker for a very long time. I understand that Jim had trouble coming up with a design that bettered the 3.6 and that's why it took so long for the 3.7 to be released. Either way, the 3.6's mated with an LS9 pre and McCormack DNA 1, made the hair on my arms stand on end.
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