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...Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night...
Great - another excuse to hear from millennials as to why they can't come to work... (as if they needed another)
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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Some people around the globe also say enough with humans polluting and we need to get rid of a few billion pesky humans. Should we join them too....
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired,
I am OK with firing idiots. I don't forget plugging in my phone. If "most of you" do then that's your damn fault. I have enough charging areas where I spend my day that I don't forget. In my car, near my work computer, main PC at home, bedside stand, next to the couch. I could even carry recharging batteries if needed, or just bring a cable and plug into a laptop. If I am too stupid to remember to plug in my phone then I don't deserve a job other than McDonalds.
My company has several EV plug-in parking spots that are the closest spots to the door, and it's "free" (for now). EV's have a decent enough range that I can drive from work to home and then back to work with a couple side errands and still have range left. So plugging in at home is not even needed.
But I don't own an EV yet. I still want more range, a better looking car, and have it affordable. So this will take some time still.
Time will also tell if other technologies will win over it. But the trend is certain... there's going to be more and more people (~2 Billion) driving cars and motorcycles this century and they will require gasoline. It's not just the environment. It's a limited resource that will be strained. Some other tech (probably green) will need to offset the higher demand.
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Every resource has its limits. Even electricity. There is no silver bullet to solve all our power needs. Oil/gas has come the closes. Widely available and fairly cheap with multiple applications. Which is why displacing it with electric will never happen. You may get niche areas who can benefit from electric cars and that's all well and good but it will never be able to kill off fossil fuels.HT SYSTEM-
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Can you imagine an all electric Harley.......instead of rolling thunder it'll be rolling whisper.
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Can you imagine an all electric Harley.......instead of rolling thunder it'll be rolling BLUNDER.
Fixed for accuracy.
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it? -
Perhaps the best argument yet for electric vehicles (the Harley EV, that is).
(Marky ducks & runs for cover...)
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Can you imagine an all electric Harley.......instead of rolling thunder it'll be rolling whisper.
Don’t have to imagine it. It already exists.
https://youtu.be/q4dQDV8hQEc
Once again Sal, you haven't researched what you're posting. That bike is not available for purchase. IF it does come to market I suspect only a millennial would consider one, but that would mean they'd have to have a good job. -
Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired, can't pay the nut on the electric car, and buy a beater gas powered car while you look for a new job.
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That's just beyond stupid. That's like saying people can't remember to fill their cars up with gas. No, electric cars aren't the answer now but internal combustion engines were a poor replacement for horses too once upon a time. Centralized power production with virtually lossless distribution makes a hell of a lot of sense. The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be. -
... The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be.
No one here is arguing that. However, the position is being argued that EVs are a viable alternative to gas/diesel vehicles RIGHT NOW, which they clearly are not. Many here are also frustrated by the fact that they are unwillingly being forced to fund the dreams and ego of people like Elon Musk.
For EV technology to become a true competitor, it must achieve success on its own merits in the free market.
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
Actually, I think that EVs are a viable alternative to gas/diesel vehicles right now in a lot of scenarios. Certainly not all of course, but in my situation I drive maybe 20 miles round trip to my workplace and back and rarely drive around town more than 50 miles in a day. An EV makes great sense for me and probably would for many people. Nonetheless, I drive a gas pickup
That being said, I would never champion unforced funding the dreams of Musk or his ilk . As you said, it will succeed (or fail) on its own merits. Ultimately I think it will succeed in the end but that's just my own opinion.
My bigger issue with the comment that I quoted was that people wouldn't be able to remember to plug in their car to recharge, which to me is idiotic. -
Actually, I think that EVs are a viable alternative to gas/diesel vehicles right now in a lot of scenarios. Certainly not all of course, but in my situation I drive maybe 20 miles round trip to my workplace and back and rarely drive around town more than 50 miles in a day. An EV makes great sense for me and probably would for many people. Nonetheless, I drive a gas pickup
That being said, I would never champion unforced funding the dreams of Musk or his ilk . As you said, it will succeed (or fail) on its own merits. Ultimately I think it will succeed in the end but that's just my own opinion.
My bigger issue with the comment that I quoted was that people wouldn't be able to remember to plug in their car to recharge, which to me is idiotic.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people. AAA makes a lot of "out of gas" rescues each and every day. -
Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired, can't pay the nut on the electric car, and buy a beater gas powered car while you look for a new job.
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That's just beyond stupid. That's like saying people can't remember to fill their cars up with gas. No, electric cars aren't the answer now but internal combustion engines were a poor replacement for horses too once upon a time. Centralized power production with virtually lossless distribution makes a hell of a lot of sense. The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be.
Are you a millennial? -
Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired, can't pay the nut on the electric car, and buy a beater gas powered car while you look for a new job.
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That's just beyond stupid. That's like saying people can't remember to fill their cars up with gas. No, electric cars aren't the answer now but internal combustion engines were a poor replacement for horses too once upon a time. Centralized power production with virtually lossless distribution makes a hell of a lot of sense. The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be.
Are you a millennial?
Not sure why a person's age is relevant to their viewpoint but I am probably older than you. -
Can you imagine an all electric Harley.......instead of rolling thunder it'll be rolling whisper.
Don’t have to imagine it. It already exists.https://youtu.be/q4dQDV8hQEc
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Actually, I think that EVs are a viable alternative to gas/diesel vehicles right now in a lot of scenarios. Certainly not all of course, but in my situation I drive maybe 20 miles round trip to my workplace and back and rarely drive around town more than 50 miles in a day. An EV makes great sense for me and probably would for many people. Nonetheless, I drive a gas pickup
That being said, I would never champion unforced funding the dreams of Musk or his ilk . As you said, it will succeed (or fail) on its own merits. Ultimately I think it will succeed in the end but that's just my own opinion.
My bigger issue with the comment that I quoted was that people wouldn't be able to remember to plug in their car to recharge, which to me is idiotic.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people. AAA makes a lot of "out of gas" rescues each and every day.
LOL, very true. And the energy of choice for your vehicle will never fix stupid.
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Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired, can't pay the nut on the electric car, and buy a beater gas powered car while you look for a new job.
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That's just beyond stupid. That's like saying people can't remember to fill their cars up with gas. No, electric cars aren't the answer now but internal combustion engines were a poor replacement for horses too once upon a time. Centralized power production with virtually lossless distribution makes a hell of a lot of sense. The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be.
Are you a millennial?
Not sure why a person's age is relevant to their viewpoint but I am probably older than you.
Careful with that statement I'm finding I'm on the younger side here. Most of the polkies i have met are closer to my mom and dads age. Which you may very well be.
I would almost guarantee it Just playing the odds.. -
Yeah....ok. Most of us can't remember to plug in our phones, now you want us to plug in our cars too ?
Get up for work, and realize you forgot to plug in the car last night. Then what ? Then you get fired, can't pay the nut on the electric car, and buy a beater gas powered car while you look for a new job.
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That's just beyond stupid. That's like saying people can't remember to fill their cars up with gas. No, electric cars aren't the answer now but internal combustion engines were a poor replacement for horses too once upon a time. Centralized power production with virtually lossless distribution makes a hell of a lot of sense. The tech isn't there to make it better than fossil fuels right now but that doesn't mean it won't be.
Are you a millennial?
Not sure why a person's age is relevant to their viewpoint but I am probably older than you.
Careful with that statement I'm finding I'm on the younger side here. Most of the polkies i have met are closer to my mom and dads age. Which you may very well be.
I would almost guarantee it Just playing the odds..
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“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it? -
Everybody's avatar should be their most recent driver's license photograph.
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Nothing wrong with balance, a little here and a little there
Keep in mind the US has managed to cripple cities and towns ie big steel, coal, manufacturing etc
Made us a weaker economy overall. Take out big oil that leaves the US with only engineering, but manufacturing will still move abroad, along with good paying jobs.
Know your history on why we became a great nation. We lead in both development and manufacturing
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And FYI we are no longer the only leaders in development and of course you know we lost the manufacturing years ago
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Everybody's avatar should be their most recent driver's license photograph.
Mine is carved in a cave wall.. -
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If you could only get to Seattle... -
Actually, I think that EVs are a viable alternative to gas/diesel vehicles right now in a lot of scenarios. Certainly not all of course, but in my situation I drive maybe 20 miles round trip to my workplace and back and rarely drive around town more than 50 miles in a day. An EV makes great sense for me and probably would for many people. Nonetheless, I drive a gas pickup
That being said, I would never champion unforced funding the dreams of Musk or his ilk . As you said, it will succeed (or fail) on its own merits. Ultimately I think it will succeed in the end but that's just my own opinion.
My bigger issue with the comment that I quoted was that people wouldn't be able to remember to plug in their car to recharge, which to me is idiotic.
In operation they may be viable for some people, but I was speaking more from a production/acquisition standpoint.
Of the vanishingly small percentage of total vehicles sold that are EV, how much smaller would that percentage be if the $10k(ish) subsidy were to be eliminated? Additionally, how much MORE would a Tesla cost if Musk weren't raking in billions from the government (or would Tessa exist at all)?
THAT is what I mean by viable...“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
"Tesla" is an anagram for "E.T. Sal"!!! He's an extra-terrestrial! I knew it!
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I do have some reluctance in basing my life choices on a romance novel fashion model (despite the fact that his dad was an engineer).
Despite clear and concise product labeling, Mr. Fabio seems somewhat confused by the distinct differences between margarine and butter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xszIaNpYILY
I prefer the scientific work being conducted by afficionado Mr. Young
(information relayed to me by a certified 'Merican)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=qnYCYDWUCRc
Lincoln Continental. Proof that you can save the earth with style and class.
No sense in saving the earth if you ain't got no style, not to mention class.
......... might want to throw "couth" into the mix while we're at it.
Sal Palooza
