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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,878
    edited January 2010
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    "J/K fellas" remember I do own a XPA-3. lol :)


    Then thou shall henceforth be banished yonder, into the corn !!!!!




    ......... which isn't really that bad of a punishment, come to think of it. All you have to do is just keep walking in one direction, and you're guaranteed to eventually come out of the corn. Hmmmm ..... going to have to come up with a better punishment ......


    Was thinking about this as a punishment for Emoettes, but ..... well... it is kind of extreme.

    WARNING: NSFW (may not even be SafeForHome)


    OHTHEHORROR
    Sal Palooza
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited January 2010
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    It always amazes me to see the big cats as kittens. It's easy to think since they are friendly as kittens, they will be friendly as adults.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    Whether or not they work, and the brand itself, isn't the problem. I'm not associating herpes with Emotiva as a company. I'm associating herpes with the infestation of Emoettes that come here to spout how their gear is awesome, and telling us to throw away our old **** Adcom and Carver amps. THAT'S the herpes.

    In my perusals of the forum I have never seen posts (they could very well be out there, just saying I haven't seen it) from an Emotiva owner telling some one to throw out their gear.

    I kind of see the point with the older Carver stuff... The Sunfire lineup is nice and the only thing that he has done that I would want to own.

    With my setup I would be curious to see if there is a difference in a blind A/B between say the Emotiave UPA-2 and my Parasound HCA 1000A.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    xcapri79 wrote: »
    I don't know that anyone ever said they make the best amps any more than anyone ever said that Polk makes the best speaker. I think that the issue has been blown out of proportion.
    Some took offence that Emotiva used the word "Reference" in their advertising literature and then did a Monty Python type ridicule take on that. Fine, if that's what you like.

    Then how come Signal Cable uses Reference in their advertising of their cables and they some how escape mass ridicule. I still haven't seen anyone posture an explanation (scientific) of what 'reference' is when it comes to audio equipment.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    Then how come Signal Cable uses Reference in their advertising of their cables and they some how escape mass ridicule. I still haven't seen anyone posture an explanation (scientific) of what 'reference' is when it comes to audio equipment.

    Probably because they don't stuff it down our throats like Emotiva does. For pete's sake, one of their amplifiers has "Reference" engraved IN IT.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »

    I kind of see the point with the older Carver stuff... The Sunfire lineup is nice and the only thing that has done that I would want to own.

    Oh wow.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • noone2036
    noone2036 Posts: 2
    edited January 2010
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    I have a question about the Protection LED on my new SWA500 amp. I just connected everything yesterday. I have it configured with the preout sub from the receiver and then speaker wire from the amp to my CSW155. The amp turns on when it receives a signal and nothing comes out of the sub and then the Protection LED lights up. I do not understand what is wrong and the manual has nothing for a troubleshooting page. Can someone help?
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    You obviously do not know a thing about Carver gear then. I could take an M1.5t, an M500, M4.0t and any of the TFM45 and up, all of which will bury an EMO in head to head comparisons. The Sllver7t and Silver9t monoblocks are still very well regarded, and lets not even discuss the Silver Seven Monoblock Tube Amps, which are among the rarest and most coveted amps on the planet.

    Learn your gear before you try telling people to throw it out.

    I owned the M400. Yech... I just demo'd last week (guy was asking $200) a M-1.5t. meh.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    You obviously do not know a thing about Carver gear then. I could take an M1.5t, an M500, M4.0t and any of the TFM45 and up, all of which will bury an EMO in head to head comparisons. The Sllver7t and Silver9t monoblocks are still very well regarded, and lets not even discuss the Silver Seven Monoblock Tube Amps, which are among the rarest and most coveted amps on the planet.

    Learn your gear before you try telling people to throw it out.

    Sorry, the M400 turned me off. The Silver 7 looks great. Never heard it. I have heard the the TFM series (35/45) they were ok...

    The Silver line up was always out of my price range.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    I owned the M400. Yech... I just demo'd last week (guy was asking $200) a M-1.5t. meh.

    "Meh." That's about how i felt about the XPA-2 that came through here. For my budget, an $800 amp better leave me gasping, sweating, and drained of all seminal fluids.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    You obviously do not know a thing about Carver gear then. I could take an M1.5t, an M500, M4.0t and any of the TFM45 and up, all of which will bury an EMO in head to head comparisons. The Sllver7t and Silver9t monoblocks are still very well regarded, and lets not even discuss the Silver Seven Monoblock Tube Amps, which are among the rarest and most coveted amps on the planet.

    Learn your gear before you try telling people to throw it out.

    Where did I tell people to throw it out. If you like your gear that is great.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    noone2036 wrote: »
    I have a question about the Protection LED on my new SWA500 amp. I just connected everything yesterday. I have it configured with the preout sub from the receiver and then speaker wire from the amp to my CSW155. The amp turns on when it receives a signal and nothing comes out of the sub and then the Protection LED lights up. I do not understand what is wrong and the manual has nothing for a troubleshooting page. Can someone help?

    Sure. Make a new thread, though. ;) This is an Emotiva **** fight, we don't REALLY want any good information in it.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    Where did I tell people to throw it out. If you like your gear that is great.

    You said you saw the point of the people who said to throw out the old carver amps. Whether you personally said it or not, it at least shows that you agree with them on some level. I arrived at this using rudimentary English language skills.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2010
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    You said you saw the point of the people who said to throw out the old carver amps. Whether you personally said it or not, it at least shows that you agree with them on some level. I arrived at this using rudimentary English language skills.

    I should have said the those old Stereo cubes.... They weighed like 8 pounds and claimed 200watts a channel. Reminded me of car stereo amps stuffed in a black cube. NeXT computer anyone?

    Sorry, didn't mean to bash all the Carver stuff with that.
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
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    Face wrote: »

    LOL God, that's an awesome thread. Thanks for finding that for me!
  • sTiLlLeArNiNg
    sTiLlLeArNiNg Posts: 805
    edited January 2010
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    This place is still good for a laugh! lol

    I still don't see it! Frankly i never will because it does NOT exist!
    Media Room 7.1
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    HTPC
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    A fool and his money are easily parted
    I don't drink Koolaid

    Need some cable's? Just ask :)
  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2010
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    Trolls need to stop sniffing glue.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
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    This place is still good for a laugh! lol

    I still don't see it! Frankly i never will because it does NOT exist!

    Then you haven't read the threads and/or realize your own statements.
  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited January 2010
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    You obviously do not know a thing about Carver gear then. I could take an M1.5t, an M500, M4.0t and any of the TFM45 and up, all of which will bury an EMO in head to head comparisons.

    I'll have to whole heartedly disagree with you on some of that...but hey..its all good.
  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited January 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    Then how come Signal Cable uses Reference in their advertising of their cables and they some how escape mass ridicule. I still haven't seen anyone posture an explanation (scientific) of what 'reference' is when it comes to audio equipment.
    Probably because they don't stuff it down our throats like Emotiva does. For pete's sake, one of their amplifiers has "Reference" engraved IN IT.

    I don't understand why this keeps coming up. I thought it has been established that "reference" means so many different things to different people that it is now nothing more than a worthless marketing tool.

    XRt12 Reference Tuner
    SDA Signature Reference Series center
    SRS(Signature Reference Series 1.2TL/2.3TL/3.1TL
    Not that these were not, and still are great products, but were/are they reference?

    I'm all for keeping the talk of Emo in perspective as being good for the $$ but no giant killer. But I don't think using the word "reference" means anything one way or another, to be of any value in the discussion (use this term loosely since it is more of a pi$$ing match) but some may still be trying to gain knowledge from it.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
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    moodyman wrote: »
    I'll have to whole heartedly disagree with you on some of that...but hey..its all good.


    Care to elaborate?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • sTiLlLeArNiNg
    sTiLlLeArNiNg Posts: 805
    edited January 2010
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    Then you haven't read the threads and/or realize your own statements.

    :rolleyes: lol I see you're on the pipe again!

    Again i'll ask: SHOW me where these post's are at, PLEASE! I've only asked to be shown these post's a few time's but maybe, JUST maybe this time i'll be directed to them....

    :)
    Media Room 7.1
    Sharp lc37d64u | Sanus vmsab-03 | Sonax ZX8680 | Yamaha htr-6290b | Emotiva xpa1 x 2 & xpa5 | RTiA 9 & 7 | CSiA 6 | FXiA 6 | Sanus NF30B-03 | Velodyne dls-3750r | Dual 505-3 m97xe | Monster avs2000/hts5100

    HTPC
    Intel e5300 | Asus p5q DLX | LG ch08 BD | OCZ 4g reaper2 | WD 1TB | Sapphire 4890 VaporX 1g | Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 | OCZ modXtreme 700w | Antec Fusion remote MAX

    A fool and his money are easily parted
    I don't drink Koolaid

    Need some cable's? Just ask :)
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
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    :rolleyes: lol I see you're on the pipe again!

    GO F*&k Yourself!
    Again i'll ask: SHOW me where these post's are at, PLEASE! I've only asked to be shown these post's a few time's but maybe, JUST maybe this time i'll be directed to them....

    :)

    Find them yourself if you are so damned obsessed with it.
  • sTiLlLeArNiNg
    sTiLlLeArNiNg Posts: 805
    edited January 2010
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    GO F*&k Yourself!



    Find them yourself if you are so damned obsessed with it.

    lol Another perfect example of what i'm talkin' about!

    I am not the one obsessed with anything, well actually that's not entirely true as i am "obsessed" with the truth. There is NOTHING to find because it DOES NOT exist! Reality check :)
    Media Room 7.1
    Sharp lc37d64u | Sanus vmsab-03 | Sonax ZX8680 | Yamaha htr-6290b | Emotiva xpa1 x 2 & xpa5 | RTiA 9 & 7 | CSiA 6 | FXiA 6 | Sanus NF30B-03 | Velodyne dls-3750r | Dual 505-3 m97xe | Monster avs2000/hts5100

    HTPC
    Intel e5300 | Asus p5q DLX | LG ch08 BD | OCZ 4g reaper2 | WD 1TB | Sapphire 4890 VaporX 1g | Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 | OCZ modXtreme 700w | Antec Fusion remote MAX

    A fool and his money are easily parted
    I don't drink Koolaid

    Need some cable's? Just ask :)
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
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    lol Another perfect example of what i'm talkin' about!

    You don't even know what you are talking about. You insult someone then don't even know it so how the hell are you going to make a statement like "it doesn't exist," and have people take you seriously? You're a prime example of what we are talking about here about Emoettes.

    Go find a cave troll.
  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited January 2010
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    Care to elaborate?

    Ugh!!....I just responded with 3 paragraphs and it made me log in again...my write up no where to be found....

    Summary....

    I auditioned Carver 500M, Rotel RB-990BX, and XPA-2 over summer 2009. None of the amps "buried" the other one. Carver did sound a little different...not bad, not good..just different IMO. I kept the XPA-2, sold the Carver, still have the Rotel I'd like to unload.

    With the handful of amps I've auditioned over the years I have yet to hear to amps with similiar specs "blow away" any other. IMO..as long as they have similiar specs and are functioning properly the differences are usually subtle at best.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
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    moodyman wrote: »
    Ugh!!....I just responded with 3 paragraphs and it made me log in again...my write up no where to be found....

    I've had similar problem recently. I wasn't forced to log in again. I had responded to two diifferent posts quoting both then nada, they both weren't displayed. Don't know if something is up or if maybe after proofreading I just didn't hit the <Post Reply> button. Either way it was a wasted effort.
  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited January 2010
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    You don't even know what you are talking about. You insult someone then don't even know it so how the hell are you going to make a statement like "it doesn't exist," and have people take you seriously? You're a prime example of what we are talking about here about Emoettes.

    Go find a cave troll.

    To be fair...a few posts back somebody did accuse him of sniffing glue.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
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    moodyman wrote: »
    To be fair...a few posts back somebody did accuse him of sniffing glue.

    Yeah well it wasn't me! The guys is a troll and an overly sensitive Emoette and has brought nothing but disrepect and contraversy to the club. . . PERIOD!!!

    I noticed you edited your post and thought better of posting, "Was that OK???."