Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • Krazyz1
    Krazyz1 Posts: 256
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    How about option 3. Buy the cheapest speaker cables available and buy a REALLY , REALLY GOOD 32 band EQ and say F**K IT!!!!!!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    Yawn....
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  • Krazyz1
    Krazyz1 Posts: 256
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    I'm sorry!! Is EQ a naughty word here??????
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    Awe come on Shack Daddy, can't you find a little humor here? We are, after all talking about spearker cables.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    treitz3 wrote:
    Awe come on Shack Daddy, can't you find a little humor here? We are, after all talking about spearker cables.

    Ok...maybe using an eq is somewhat humorous. Do they still make those things?
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    Nevermind...ya'll carry on without me....
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    You must have had a bad day. I hear ya'.

    I may be traveling your way within the month. You anywhere near Tyler Acoustics? I may be able to stop in and say hello.
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  • Krazyz1
    Krazyz1 Posts: 256
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    Too dam bad Montgomery Ward's closed up. I would buy me some Ward's Airline speaker wire and blow the neghbors windows out listening to Meatloaf " Bat out of hell " LOL , LOL , LOL!!!!!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    treitz3 wrote:
    You must have had a bad day. I hear ya'.

    Nope...just a stupid thread that should have been allowed to been allowed to die and rot away.
    treitz3 wrote:
    I may be traveling your way within the month. You anywhere near Tyler Acoustics? I may be able to stop in and say hello.

    Only about 300 miles and 5 hours away. :cool:
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,634
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    Get your directions Tom, Tyler is in Kentucky, bordering Indiana.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    Oh, dear. For some reason I thought that he was in TN. So much for me bringing the hot women to your house Shack.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,634
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    I'm not too out of the way, so you can actually bring them here.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    treitz3 wrote:
    Oh, dear. For some reason I thought that he was in TN.

    Nope...Owensboro KY...on the Indiana/KY border.
    treitz3 wrote:
    So much for me bringing the hot women to your house Shack.

    More hot women? I guess we cold squeeze a few more in...If we can get a couple of the hot women already here to take a break.
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
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    Oops
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
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    Just buy monster cable and be happy..... Hahahahaha
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,658
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    I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    Cables are a joke. In fact all speakers sound the same to me. Just buy whatever looks good in your living room.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    Nope no wife. I just like to impress people with gear that looks outta this world. I don't think I've ever actually turned my system on for more than five minutes at a time. I usually just throw in a Master P track to impress them with sloppy bass.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    lmao... Emerald Physics are notorious for that:rolleyes:

    Yeah well, SDAs have no midrange and do some stupid echoing effect :D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    dorokusai wrote: »
    I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.

    I liked the gold painted ones until I found out the paint was non-conductive. They were however the quietest cables I ever used.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    dorokusai wrote:
    I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.

    I keep hearing that...but I have never been able to figure out how to integrate one of these into my rig...:confused:


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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
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    Beuller? ..... Beuller? ..... :D

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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
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    shack wrote: »
    I keep hearing that...but I have never been able to figure out how to integrate one of these into my rig...:confused:
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    I'm gonna get a wire coat hanger and hang myself if this thread keeps coming back.

    It's like a cockroach in a cheap motel, or Lightman in the bushes in your front yard :eek:
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
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    . . . It's like lightman in the bushes in your front yard eek:
    keiko wrote: »
    now i'm really gunna vomit. :p


    yep :D:D:D:D
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,685
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    Why must a good topic go bad? Why clown it?

    I'm gonna go on record with the following statements....if anyone is listening.

    Wire makes a difference and I'm going to tell you why.
    First off you need to figure out the job at hand. lets stick with the topic at hand, speaker wire. You need to figure out the spec's of the given speakers. the range which they work in. Are they full range? meaning 20hz to 20khz? Not many speakers can claim that! I'll use mine as a example I own the Definitive Technology Mythos ST for main speakers. They are rated at 14hz to 30khz which means they are full range. They cover the required frequencies that make a full range speaker. So in my settings I will run them Large.( The 14hz I don't believe , I will be testing that very soon, I'm thinking maybe 22hz or so we shall see).
    My amp is a receiver which puts out 140 watts into a 8 ohm load. My speakers so happen to be 8 ohms. Nice. Ok they are also 93db but for speaker wire that does mean a little but not that much.
    So now comes one of the most important parts , the length of the run. Mine are 8 feet long so I need to use the proper gauge which would be 16 gauge. I'm using 14 but I'm anal like that. Not that 16 wouldn't get it done, I prefer for no other reason then I like a fatter wire. There I said it.
    I also choose a wire that is Silver plated. For no other reason I like the way it sounds. It's not a requirement to get the sound to the speakers. Cooper conductors do a fine job without hardly any loss(which is the goal by the way).
    So I make sure I don't make antenna's out of my speaker wire and Away I go. I used to have much higher end wire , I still own some but I achieed the goal in getting the signal there the way I like it and I don't see the need to spend the extra money (That I don't have) on more wire.
    So my advise it this, get it right and be cool with it. All those fancy wires don't Improve the sound quality over any speaker wire that is proper for that task. It's what I have learned over the years.

    I will also add this , Different brands sound different but the difference's are so damn small it's questionable if it's worth the extra money. If you have extra money to throw at your system, then go have fun and spend the time like I did and money and find out the truth on your own. Once you figure it out , you will be at peace with it (like I think I am)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,406
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    All those fancy wires don't Improve the sound quality over any speaker wire that is proper for that task.

    Dan speak for, I don't have a clue.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Dan speak for, I don't have a clue.

    I like my MITs because they make me feel superior to people without boxes on their cables.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
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    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I like my MITs because they make me feel superior to people without boxes on their cables.

    I second that. :)

    Plus if you can handle the challenge MIT cable management presents, you could probably run a small country. :D

    And Dan, it's hard to be serious 1.8 X 10 to the 2 in ! (yes, the post count has gotten so large I need sci. not. to keep track)
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    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
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    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
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    inspiredsports wrote: »
    I second that. :)

    Plus if you can handle the challenge MIT cable management presents, you could probably run a small country. :D

    And Dan, it's hard to be serious 1.8 X 10 to the 2 in ! (yes, the post count has gotten so large I need sci. not. to keep track)

    I think you mean 1.8x10^3. What you said would be 180.
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