Spearker cables..fact or fiction?
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I don't under stand the price for speaker cables....some cost more then the equipment there hookup to....The price is insane. The Stereophile mags review these....of course there not going to say anything bad about them..they get paid to do this...then sit there and try to tell you....oh yes we hear this one gives you more highs, or this one is more clear.....BULL...
Sorry..it's a piece of wire...when you get to a certain point...thats about it.
I have a 12 gauge speaker cable, I will not say which kind. I went and spent $250 (on sale)...some supposed great cable......NO DAM DIFFERENCE.
No way you could tell the difference between the 2. Now OK...."MAYBE" if your playing some violin thing........MAYBE you could hear something different, but my guess would be NOT. If I changed cables on these "reviewers"...they would not have a clue............
OK, I play mostly rock and blues, but do throw in some classic music.
If Stravinsky, or Tchaikovsky..sound the same to me, over different cables..well I get the fact.....basically you have just been riiped off, because it's called "audiophile"....and no I'm not tone deaf...I've mixed CD's for people , run PA mixers...I know what good sound is.
It's like Boats...if it's marine..you pay a ton....same crap you can buy for cheap...Audiophile.....the price goes up.....
Most of this "sound" is precived..just because you spent..300 plus on a cable.
You won't hear staggering differences in speaker cable unless the rest of the system's wire is in top form. The most important cable that does make huge differences to any ear is the source to preamp I/C. You are not even close to having your system right enough to even think of hearing comparisons in a good way. Until you actually have lived with higher echelon wire sets, meaning all of the interconnects and speaker wire your opinion is meaningless to others who do have their systems at a higher state.<br>
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I'm not trying to bash you, just open your eyes a bit to the fact that you are a bit short on having a vast exposure to what's out there. I have had at least half a million dollars worth of just about every manufacturer's lines from entry to ultimate along with high end electronics to try it on. I figure I'm not wasting my time if you have an open enough mind to accept that you may be missing something if your system isn't allowing you to hear differences. The first rule of speaker wire is to upgrade interconnects first of the speaker wire can't make as much difference because the best audiophile characteristics haven't even gotten through to the amp let alone the speakers.<br>
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Again, no offense meant but you have a ways to go and you will never get there if you can't figure out the cable basics. cable is the key element to pure audiophile sound, without good wire your money is wasted on high end components and speakers. If I lived close to you I could show it to you in your system, I made a living doing that in everything out to $150k+ systems, it is always about the wire no matter what equipment you have.You aren't done with wire and ready for upgrades and other tweaks until you are totally done with wire.
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I am using Dayton Audio from Parts Express. It is 14ga Hi-Def OFC rope layer design. I am using them bi-wired to my RTiA9's. At aprox . 47 cents a foot I could tell a BIG difference. The sound really opened up. Even my wife could tell the difference and she's quite happy with the stereo in her cavilier!!!
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But, but..........spearker cables making a difference is fiction. Hasn't that been proven in this thread? You must be krazy man......~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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How about option 3. Buy the cheapest speaker cables available and buy a REALLY , REALLY GOOD 32 band EQ and say F**K IT!!!!!!
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Yawn...."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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I'm sorry!! Is EQ a naughty word here??????
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Awe come on Shack Daddy, can't you find a little humor here? We are, after all talking about spearker cables.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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treitz3 wrote:Awe come on Shack Daddy, can't you find a little humor here? We are, after all talking about spearker cables.
Ok...maybe using an eq is somewhat humorous. Do they still make those things?"Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
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Nevermind...ya'll carry on without me...."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
You must have had a bad day. I hear ya'.
I may be traveling your way within the month. You anywhere near Tyler Acoustics? I may be able to stop in and say hello.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Too dam bad Montgomery Ward's closed up. I would buy me some Ward's Airline speaker wire and blow the neghbors windows out listening to Meatloaf " Bat out of hell " LOL , LOL , LOL!!!!!
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treitz3 wrote:You must have had a bad day. I hear ya'.
Nope...just a stupid thread that should have been allowed to been allowed to die and rot away.treitz3 wrote:I may be traveling your way within the month. You anywhere near Tyler Acoustics? I may be able to stop in and say hello.
Only about 300 miles and 5 hours away. :cool:"Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
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Oh, dear. For some reason I thought that he was in TN. So much for me bringing the hot women to your house Shack.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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I'm not too out of the way, so you can actually bring them here._________________________________________________
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treitz3 wrote:Oh, dear. For some reason I thought that he was in TN.
Nope...Owensboro KY...on the Indiana/KY border.treitz3 wrote:So much for me bringing the hot women to your house Shack.
More hot women? I guess we cold squeeze a few more in...If we can get a couple of the hot women already here to take a break."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
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Just buy monster cable and be happy..... HahahahahaPolkAudioClyde
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I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Cables are a joke. In fact all speakers sound the same to me. Just buy whatever looks good in your living room.
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Nope no wife. I just like to impress people with gear that looks outta this world. I don't think I've ever actually turned my system on for more than five minutes at a time. I usually just throw in a Master P track to impress them with sloppy bass.
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SolidSqual wrote: »I usually just throw in a Master P track to impress them with sloppy bass.
lmao... Emerald Physics are notorious for that:rolleyes:The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »lmao... Emerald Physics are notorious for that:rolleyes:
Yeah well, SDAs have no midrange and do some stupid echoing effect
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I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.
I liked the gold painted ones until I found out the paint was non-conductive. They were however the quietest cables I ever used.
madmaxVinyl, the final frontier...
Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want...
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dorokusai wrote:I prefer coat hangers to anything high end.
I keep hearing that...but I have never been able to figure out how to integrate one of these into my rig...
"Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
"Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson -
VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
NAD SS rigs w/mods
GIK panels -
I keep hearing that...but I have never been able to figure out how to integrate one of these into my rig...


I'm gonna get a wire coat hanger and hang myself if this thread keeps coming back.
It's like a cockroach in a cheap motel, or Lightman in the bushes in your front yard :eek:VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
NAD SS rigs w/mods
GIK panels
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