No excuse for cable naysayers
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Please read this before you throw away your hard earned money on cables which will do nothing but lighten your wallet.
http://www.ethanwiner.com/audiophoolery.html
They won't even read the ChrisWiggles thread at AVS where a member couldn't pick out his Opus MM cables from Monster Cable. Save your breath. -
All it takes are few good questions to shut you guys up and put you in to Ad-hom attack mode. If I didn't know better I would swear there is an unpublished script that is followed here.
Clueless, classless, priceless.
Grow up and try out some other audio enthusiast boards.
Perhaps it is time for you to follow your own advice?:mad: -
When you try to be witty with the weak come-backs, well it's time to stop trying and just make a valid point.
So the MIT cables can only make a difference on expensive systems? It's like the character in Mystery Men who is only invisible when no one is looking.
They wouldn't make something like the Zaph ZRT 2.5's any better? Do the physics involved with the MIT product only work with really expensive setups?
It seems my point buzzed your tower, once again. I'll dumb it down for you. You, as in you, yourself are a troll as in one who causes trouble for troubles sake. You add nothing of merit to any discussion here, you have no point and that is your point, to be pointless. That should be clear, concise and to the point. However, should you require further explanation as to your pointlessness, please let me know.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
^^^The force is STRONG in you! I feel your ANGER growing inside you.
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Lord Vader wrote: »Perhaps it is time for you to follow your own advice?:mad:
I already do... What's your excuse? -
It seems my point buzzed your tower, once again. I'll dumb it down for you. You, as in you, yourself are a troll as in one who causes trouble for troubles sake. You add nothing of merit to any discussion here, you have no point and that is your point, to be pointless. That should be clear, concise and to the point. However, should you require further explanation as to your pointlessness, please let me know.
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Anything that has the marketing hype like MIT cables shouldn't only be able to produce improvements with someone running a $50K setup.
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You go straight into Ad-hom attack mode when you can't carry on a cordial discussion or have nothing of value to add.
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I don't see you at any of the other major audio enthusiast sites. They wouldn't tolerate your constant diarrhea of the mouth. Lets face it: you think you are the smartest person that you know.
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If I am trolling then REPORT the posts in question. Get my access here at Polk Forums pulled. -
That wont work jukster...I've been trying to get banned for three years.If I am trolling then REPORT the posts in question. Get my access here at Polk Forums pulled.
Stick around! You a funny guy. I likes you. -
Now if I had said:
MIT's application process is to see which sheep they can fleece vs weeding out those they think won't buy. Then that MAY be a trolling type of statement.
But that isn't what I posted. I still think that them putting a credit hold on a card should be good enough. 100's of people out there saying they love what your product does is never a bad thing. -
I am WATCHING you;)...That wont work jukster...I've been trying to get banned for three years.
Stick around! You a funny guy. I likes you. -
That wont work jukster...I've been trying to get banned for three years.
Stick around! You a funny guy. I likes you.
With your grammar and spelling I doubt you try much at all at anything. -
Your logic is ignorant. I have a set of Mit bought through word of mouth and nothing else no marketing hype. They have a cable for every budget you ignorant troll. I don't post much but you bring out the worst in board members with you ignorant logic. Go back to the darkness from which you came demon.Point:
Anything that has the marketing hype like MIT cables shouldn't only be able to produce improvements with someone running a $50K setup.
Point:
You go straight into Ad-hom attack mode when you can't carry on a cordial discussion or have nothing of value to add.
Point:
I don't see you at any of the other major audio enthusiast sites. They wouldn't tolerate your constant diarrhea of the mouth. Lets face it: you think you are the smartest person that you know.
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If I am trolling then REPORT the posts in question. Get my access here at Polk Forums pulled. -
Jinjerkoff, is this you?
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
LOL, you guys and your internet fights....
It doesn't make sense, all of these "do cables matter" threads. Those who believe they do have bought some already for the most part and have heard a difference, and those who believe they don't make a difference usually won't listen to opposing opinions anyways. So who is benefiting? Outside of me and my Heineken, who finds reading such threads rather amusing right now...- Jeremy
Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC -
Your logic is ignorant. I have a set of Mit bought through word of mouth and nothing else no marketing hype. They have a cable for every budget you ignorant troll. I don't post much but you bring out the worst in board members with you ignorant logic. Go back to the darkness from which you came demon.
Feel free to do more than state 'Your logic is ignorant'. I can see you are a master debater.
I understand they have a cable for every budget. But if you could read you would have noticed the title of the thread.
Upon further research you would have enlightened yourself by finding out that MIT is only lending certain cables out of their product line up. You also would have found out that you have to pass some form of litmus test. -
It must be a slow night on AVS for the 'link lemmings' - probably a group dare to see if they can come 'save' us all from believing cables can make a difference cuz we actually kept our minds open and tried it ourselves..ya know...in the spirit of scientific observation....
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music. -
Erik Tracy wrote: »It must be a slow night on AVS for the 'link lemmings' - probably a group dare to see if they can come 'save' us all from believing cables can make a difference cuz we actually kept our minds open and tried it ourselves..ya know...in the spirit of scientific observation....
No one is saying you do or don't hear a difference. You are just asked to pick it all out in a double blind a/b/x test...
That is you can follow the bouncing ball that would be YOUR cable. -
Don't be ashamed cuz your gear isn't up to snuff, Juju. Lots of people own Emo & Bose that are quite happy. :cool:
I hear Ipod buds are pretty good :rolleyes:- Jeremy
Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC -
Point:
Anything that has the marketing hype like MIT cables shouldn't only be able to produce improvements with someone running a $50K setup.
Once again, you have no point because MIT has cables at all price levels, which will make improvements to even entry level gear. Although, I doubt there is hope for your Kraco set up.
Point to F1.Point:
You go straight into Ad-hom attack mode when you can't carry on a cordial discussion or have nothing of value to add.
You silly girl, you've yet to post a comment worthy of a cordial discussion.
Point to F1.Point:
I don't see you at any of the other major audio enthusiast sites. They wouldn't tolerate your constant diarrhea of the mouth. Lets face it: you think you are the smartest person that you know.
That's because you are not a member at other major audio enthusiast sites. Allow me to correct your last comment. I don't think, I know.
Point to F1Point:
If I am trolling then REPORT the posts in question. Get my access here at Polk Forums pulled.
Nah, I'm having too much fun proving how pointless you are.
Point to F1.
Point, set, match! The troll loses again.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
You idiot you have no clue Gavin called me and let me
know I didn't qualify and he gave me a discount on some XLR cables with demo return em if I don't like em. You have not one single clue I knew about this before this post or the post with the insight existed so stfu. I'm out..Feel free to do more than state 'Your logic is ignorant'. I can see you are a master debater.
I understand they have a cable for every budget. But if you could read you would have noticed the title of the thread.
Upon further research you would have enlightened yourself by finding out that MIT is only lending certain cables out of their product line up. You also would have found out that you have to pass some form of litmus test. -
jinjuko, I'm sure you've figured out by now that these guys take cable talk very seriously. Especially MIT cables that have a rather large following here. If guys say they hear a difference in their system with different cables then why not just respect their opinion. You might be of a different opinion & that's fine too. It's a non winnable argument for both camps on the issue. It just creates hostility & attacks as you can plainly see.
Please don't say anything about amps!
"2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
Don't be ashamed cuz your gear isn't up to snuff, Juju. Lots of people own Emo & Bose that are quite happy. :cool:
Since I own Parasound and DIY Zaph ZDT 3.5's I wouldn't presume to speak for them.
My setup, especially given the price, is no slouch by any means. Maybe some Bose owners could benefit from some MIT cables. -
You idiot you have no clue Gavin called me and let me
know I didn't qualify and he gave me a discount on some XLR cables with demo return em if I don't like em. You have not one single clue I knew about this before this post or the post with the insight existed so stfu. I'm out..
No, I read your post you moron. Gavin had to give Papal Dispensation. -
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pearsall001 wrote: »jinjuko, I'm sure you've figured out by now that these guys take cable talk very seriously. Especially MIT cables that have a rather large following here. If guys say they hear a difference in their system with different cables then why not just respect their opinion. You might be of a different opinion & that's fine too. It's a non winnable argument for both camps on the issue. It just creates hostility & attacks as you can plainly see.
Please don't say anything about amps!
Find ANY POST where I said they don't hear a difference. -
Find ANY POST where I said they don't hear a difference.
Gee, what happened to the other words in your post??? I see you found the edit button pretty quick! Nice move."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
No one is saying you do or don't hear a difference. You are just asked to pick it all out in a double blind a/b/x test...
That is you can follow the bouncing ball that would be YOUR cable.
But even if I could...according to the AVS link lemmings, it would be statistically insignificant and my ability would be discounted as an anomaly or because of the placebo effect - either way the 'object'ivists would object to the outcome.
I much prefer to rely on my own sound and open minded DIRECT observations.
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music. -
pearsall001 wrote: »Gee, what happened to the other words in your post??? I see you found the edit button pretty quick! Nice move.
Yep, edit is a handy feature. To bad more don't know how to use it. -
Erik Tracy wrote: »But even if I could...according to the AVS link lemmings, it would be statistically insignificant and my ability would be discounted as an anomaly or because of the placebo effect - either way the 'object'ivists would object to the outcome.
I much prefer to rely on my own sound and open minded DIRECT observations.
I am sure that big Pharma would love to approach clinical trials of their product in the same way:rolleyes:
AVS would love to find someone that could pass a double blind A/B/X test... if you can pass beyond what the scientific community would consider statistically significant AVS would publish it. They have nothing to hide. -
I have tried for myself...have you? Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on except for links....I know what I would use to make a decision...my OWN ears - you and the AVS 'link lemmings' avoid the issue and instead post links.
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music. -
He doesn't need to try it he has read every post about other people who have not tried it who also agree with him that he does not need to try it. LoLErik Tracy wrote: »I have tried for myself...have you? Otherwise, you have no ground to stand on except for links....I know what I would use to make a decision...my OWN ears - you and the AVS 'link lemmings' avoid the issue and instead post links.
