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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    ok - I can't bring myself to read all 5 pages of this thread. I have a signal cable power cord that I am willing to send to any club polk member (who is not on my ignore list :)) with more than 50 posts....

    Only requirement is that you give it a shot and see if you like it, post a review (as short as thumbs up or down is fine) and then after a week or two - send it to the next person on the list.

    Reading reviews is one thing, but this is a chance for you to try it out in your system with your own ears at the cost of shipping it to the next person. (I will pay to ship to the first person)

    Put your ears where your mouth is.

    Michael

    Edit - Cable is about 6' long.....


    Great offer Michael.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,185
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    No more of a waste of space than the constant babbling about imaginary sound differences in wire.
    Why do you insist on continually trolling this subject? If you don't hear any difference, fine. You don't hear any difference. Point is, we do.

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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    ok - I can't bring myself to read all 5 pages of this thread. I have a signal cable power cord that I am willing to send to any club polk member (who is not on my ignore list :)) with more than 50 posts....

    Only requirement is that you give it a shot and see if you like it, post a review (as short as thumbs up or down is fine) and then after a week or two - send it to the next person on the list.

    Reading reviews is one thing, but this is a chance for you to try it out in your system with your own ears at the cost of shipping it to the next person. (I will pay to ship to the first person)

    Put your ears where your mouth is.

    Michael

    Edit - Cable is about 6' long.....

    I'd be interested. I was thinking of ordering one anyway.

    Eric. . .
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,457
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Why do you insist on continually trolling this subject? If you don't hear any difference, fine. You don't hear any difference. Point is, we do.

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    I have Coke coming out my nose on that one.:D




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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    Huck344 wrote: »
    I'd be interested. I was thinking of ordering one anyway.

    Eric. . .

    I will start a new thread so we don't get lost at the end of this one, but you are first on the list. PM me your address and a phone number. (I know you already PM'ed me, but I have not looked at it yet)

    I will try and dig up a box and get it in the mail Monday.

    Michael
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    I will start a new thread so we don't get lost at the end of this one, but you are first on the list. PM me your address and a phone number. (I know you already PM'ed me, but I have not looked at it yet)

    I will try and dig up a box and get it in the mail Monday.

    Michael

    Awesome!!! Will PM you right now!
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    Thread started

    Whatever side of the camp you are on, I encourage you to give it a shot and at least make a decision based on what you hear rather than what you think might or might not matter in your audio system. Total cost of the demo should be under $5 for shipping and you can decide for yourself if they matter.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Why do you insist on continually trolling this subject? If you don't hear any difference, fine. You don't hear any difference. Point is, we do.

    Suuuure you do. More pointless babbling.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,185
    edited February 2010
    Grow up dude.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2010
    STFU. We have all come to the conclusion you can't hear a difference. Some can and some can't.
    Enjoy Bill.
    Ben
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    Thanks
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    More pointless babbling.

    POT, KETTLE, BLACK!!! You've not provided one little bit of evidence to the contrary except for saying everything is "BS," who's blathering pointless babble?

    We get it, you don't believe in wires making any difference in any part of the rig environment and we also believe you when you say you couldn't hear a difference when YOU tried different ICs, speaker wires, and I am assuming, aftermarket power cords.

    So what in God's good name are you trying to prove?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Suuuure you do. More pointless babbling.

    I am overwhelmed and in awe of your maturity in this thread.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    I am overwhelmed and in awe of your maturity in this thread.

    BS...your mom is BS...your amp is BS...your life is BS...your book is BS...your tv is BS....

    but yet I'm not babbling and giving my "hard facts"....so wish I could use that excuses when I get pulled over for speeding...well you see officer your radar is BS and thats my point its BS, I don't know if it works, its just BS and I think your BS because in reality you can't prove I was doing it because now I'm stopped and not moving and you can't show me that I was drive too fast..that car in the video? BS that wasn't me...prove it to me...otherwise its just BS...

    BS...
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Grow up dude.

    You post your troll pictures, and tell me to grow up? Get real.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    I am overwhelmed and in awe of your maturity in this thread.

    I've been unimpressed with your maturity since the day you joined. I guess we all have our little disappointments.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2010
    Sweet William why can you not beleive others can hear what you can? I have 20/20 vision, but my buddy withless than that can see more than I whwn in the woods. Give it up. I consider that you are a smart man, but your blindness when pertaining to audio leaves me bafffled. Nobody here has an agenda.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    The agenda is to feel smarter and better then everyone else, It's like the small **** syndrome. The only way to feel better about yourself is to drive a bigger truck.
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  • selkec
    selkec Posts: 187
    edited February 2010
    WHy is everyone sill arguing about this topic? Not everyone is going to agree. This forum needs more people like the OP that is willing to lend his cables for free testing/reviews.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Sweet William why can you not beleive others can hear what you can not hear?

    My first, "Fixed it for you." :p
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Sweet William why can you not beleive others can hear what you can?

    Same reason I don't believe in bigfoot, palm reading, future telling, ghosts, and the easter bunny.

    There is not a single shred of evidence that these differences exist and plenty of explanations for why you think you hear the difference.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    POT, KETTLE, BLACK!!! You've not provided one little bit of evidence to the contrary except for saying everything is "BS," who's blathering pointless babble?

    Ok, here's some reading for you.



    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=941184&highlight=speaker+wire+test

    http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=60159.msg539789#msg539789

    http://www.avahifi.com/root/audio_basics/1998-10_seven_shiny_pennys.htm

    http://www.ethanwiner.com/myths.html

    http://www.nousaine.com/pdfs/To%20Tweak%20or%20Not.pdf

    http://www.vandenhul.com/p_IXXX.aspx
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I don't believe in bigfoot, and the easter bunny.
    Bigfoot is here with me now. We had few drinks and ate the Easter bunny. He tastes like chocolate. yummy!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Ok, here's some reading for you.



    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=941184&highlight=speaker+wire+test

    http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=60159.msg539789#msg539789

    http://www.avahifi.com/root/audio_basics/1998-10_seven_shiny_pennys.htm

    http://www.ethanwiner.com/myths.html

    http://www.nousaine.com/pdfs/To%20Tweak%20or%20Not.pdf

    http://www.vandenhul.com/p_IXXX.aspx

    Okay I took the time to read them all. All I got out of it was;

    flawed tests, the author even admitted it.

    Conjecture

    Slanted opinions and more slanted opinions

    Technical mumbo jumbo, he says it sounds better but shouldn't including tubes, analog recording gear, LP vs CDs etc. According to the author it sounds pleasing thus is invalid because the science doesn't back it up LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

    I've heard van Alstine amps and they suck so I put no creedance in anything related to him.

    Oh yeah and the MIT test by van Alstine was a joke.

    Even if there was any valid data or good testing in those threads, again I say,
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    We get it, you don't believe in wires making any difference in any part of the rig environment and we also believe you when you say you couldn't hear a difference when YOU tried different ICs, speaker wires, and I am assuming, aftermarket power cords.

    So what in God's good name are you trying to prove?

    . . . and unless I missed it because my eyes are now burning at 5:00 AM, not one word on power cords in any of those threads.
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I agree with your recommendation of source first. However, I noticed a definite improvement with my preamp and amp with an after market power cord and more so after it burned in. Definite decrease in the noise floor and the instruments and vocals were coming out of almost pure blackness.

    Am I reading this right?? Are you claiming after your power cord "burned" in it sounded better??
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited February 2010
    Yes, your reading comprehension is adequate. Surprised ? Some cables do benefit from burn in, but alas, I take it you don't think so. Thats cool if thats the case,but if you haven't had experience with different brands at different price points, then why does it even matter to you?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Same reason I don't believe in bigfoot, palm reading, future telling, ghosts, and the easter bunny.

    There is not a single shred of evidence that these differences exist and plenty of explanations for why you think you hear the difference.

    You forgot to add God to your list. :rolleyes:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    I tried to edit my post..but alas its to late. I shouldn't of quoted somebody from another thread and posted it here. For that I am sorry.

    But yes..I think the idea of power cord "burn-in" is utterly ridiculous.
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    Thats cool if thats the case,but if you haven't had experience with different brands at different price points, then why does it even matter to you?

    Yes..I would never waste my time auditioning powercords. But I enjoy the discussion...;)
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited February 2010
    moodyman wrote: »
    Yes..I would never waste my time auditioning powercords. But I enjoy the discussion...;)

    So you enjoy a discussion you have no experience in or no belief in...gotcha.

    This thread is about power cords, if you don't believe in it,thats fine, then why post in the thread ? Because you enjoy starting crap ? Really, I would like to know this in general from not just you,but others as well. If you have no belief, no interest in the topic at hand, why post ? Stay the hell out if your not going to contribute or ask specific questions.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    So you enjoy a discussion you have no experience in or no belief in...gotcha.

    This thread is about power cords, if you don't believe in it,thats fine, then why post in the thread ? Because you enjoy starting crap ? Really, I would like to know this in general from not just you,but others as well. If you have no belief, no interest in the topic at hand, why post ? Stay the hell out if your not going to contribute or ask specific questions.

    The OP solicited opinions about power cord upgrades. LOL....So a person can only post if they believe one fully functional power cord can sound different than another fully functional power cord?? You don't like my opinion...?? Too bad.

    To the OP I say if you want to upgrade your power cord do so for looks or build quality. If you honestly hear a difference between 2 power cords one of them is broke...
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