Power Cable Upgrade

nooshinjohn

selkec wrote: »

Reported what??????????????? I am not the one using acronyms like STFU. So you go ahead and report whoever you want. But your too late I allready reported several posts in this thread.
I posted what somewhere else. You stalking me?

We are already well aware of your baiting others from other forums you frequent to come here and start problems. I will not entertain you and your childish ways any further....

See yourself to the nearest exit.

inspiredsports

moodyman wrote: »

To the OP...

Power cords won't make a damn bit of audible difference except if you think it does....

:cool:

Except when you can hear it.

One night not too long ago, my teenage son and his buddies borrowed the cable between my outlet and power conditioner to power a CD player one of the friends brought to hook to the rig in my son's room. They put the original 10' APC cord in its place.

I'd recently purchased a new tube preamp and was auditioning different tubes. When I cranked my rig up the next morning, I literally thought I'd gotten a bad tube or two. I started swapping tubes in and out until I happened to noticed the different cable.

And from a William perspective you'd think that massive, decently built APC cable would make a decent hangin' rope, but it just didn't get the job done.

nooshinjohn

tonyb wrote: »

I really question why some even bothered to join an audio forum.

+1 Tonyb

selkec

nooshinjohn wrote: »

We are already well aware of your baiting others from other forums you frequent to come here and start problems. I will not entertain you and your childish ways any further....

See yourself to the nearest exit.

Who is we. Is it the same select few that are always in these heated debates. And why are you looking me up in other forums??????:eek: Thats not very productive. In fact I think this is the only forum that people are always arguing.

selkec

nooshinjohn wrote: »

+1 Tonyb

If this is directed to me. LOOK at my sig. You might be able to figure out why I joined the polk site. Its all I own.

inspiredsports

selkec wrote: »

Who is we. Is it the same select few that are always in these heated debates.

yes.

selkec

inspiredsports wrote: »

yes.

So yes.....you are stalking me by looking me up on other forums. So where am I baiting people on other forums? What forums are these you are looking me up on and saying Im starting stuff?

cstmar01

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Good point, if a product isn't very expensive, no harm in trying it out, right? How about these, only $27 and can cure all kinds of problems. Worth a shot, eh?

http://www.magnetictherapymagnets.com/therapy.html

Stop with the crap, I gave a suggestion. If you don't like it then tough. If you don't believe in something then you don't. Its like religion man, some people believe in different things, but there is no point in tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid for what they believe in. The price of the cable is low enough most people can easily afford it, and plus if you look on audiogon, ect you can resell them very easily. Don't come back with another smart answer like before because its getting you anywhere.

nooshinjohn

selkec wrote: »

So yes.....you are stalking me by looking me up on other forums. So where am I baiting people on other forums? What forums are these you are looking me up on and saying Im starting stuff?

No need to stalk you as your handiwork is all over the place...

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=amps&thread=9036&page=1#135311


You deliberately come here to start crap and you have done it more than once. Please read the second post in the thread linked above. This is just one example of the sh!tstorms you like to create between forums.

No worries on crafting any sort of rebuttal as I won't be reading it anyway.

As I said, feel free to use the door any time.

inspiredsports

selkec wrote: »

So yes.....you are stalking me by looking me up on other forums.

no.


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WilliamM2

cstmar01 wrote: »

Stop with the crap, I gave a suggestion. If you don't like it then tough. If you don't believe in something then you don't. Its like religion man, some people believe in different things, but there is no point in tell everyone else they are wrong and stupid for what they believe in. The price of the cable is low enough most people can easily afford it, and plus if you look on audiogon, ect you can resell them very easily. Don't come back with another smart answer like before because its getting you anywhere.

Problem is, your "suggestion" was pure BS, just like the link I posted. The claim that wires make a difference has no more merit than magnet therapy.

Hey, this is really affordable too, might as well give it a shot:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/140190467X/?tag=aarika-20

hearingimpared

William, what happend to you? You use to come into cable discussions with information and well thought out counter arguments, now you are just acting like a troll.

selkec

nooshinjohn wrote: »

No need to stalk you as your handiwork is all over the place...

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=amps&thread=9036&page=1#135311


You deliberately come here to start crap and you have done it more than once. Please read the second post in the thread linked above. This is just one example of the sh!tstorms you like to create between forums.

No worries on crafting any sort of rebuttal as I won't be reading it anyway.

As I said, feel free to use the door any time.

Oh no thats such a bad post. READ the post after that. The person agreeing with me. Its well known how the people over here get emotional.

squeeb

Holy crap - I posted this last night thinking I would see a few replies tonight with my quest. Wow - 3 hours of reading later ...

Thanks to (most) everyone for their input. Actually I appreciate everyone's opinions and think we can put this thread to bed. My plan is to order a power cord with some interconnects in a couple of weeks.

If it is alright with everyone, I will probably keep the results to myself.

PSOVLSK

squeeb wrote: »

If it is alright with everyone, I will probably keep the results to myself.

Come on now. We need to know the results so that one group or the other can tell you that you don't know what you're talking about:p

FYI: I got a catalog from Audio Advisor today and they have some PC's and IC's on sale right now. A few are actually on clearance anywhere from 50%-80% off.

cstmar01

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Problem is, your "suggestion" was pure BS, just like the link I posted. The claim that wires make a difference has no more merit than magnet therapy.

Hey, this is really affordable too, might as well give it a shot:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/140190467X/?tag=aarika-20

Lighten up, it is not pure BS, so would you just stop? Good lord man, if you put this time and energy listening to your system I'm sure you would be better off. I gave a suggestion and its a real one, in a hobby we are talking about, if you don't like it fine, but to call my suggestion BS, then whatever but you don't need to be insulting about it, I never said anything to you, you are the one that had to just start this.
If you don't like it, then so be it, but when you keep posting saying that its BS this and BS that, rather than being constructive, well its making you look like a fool, rather than somebody thats trying to help. I thought that was in the getting started and basic hookup questions, not the I want to have an idea of mine shot down the drain because somebody disagrees with me. Grow up, your calling BS I'm calling that you need to learn to calm down and let people try things for themselves.
Also cables can depend on price when you are looking at difference in shielding, ect. How do I know this? My brother and family do their own electrical work, and it can get expensive depending on what you use, so to have a properly shielded power cable can cost you a bit, and signal cable is not that far fetched when you put in time, labor, and cost.
But oh no, that would require you to think about what goes into it as well, but instead you take that and run your mouth off and try to discourage someone.
Grow up.
The cable I mentioned does resell very easily, when they are posted here in the FM they go very quick, within a day or so, and he could probably get back what he spent. If you don't like it, then don't buy it.
Better suggestion seeing you don't think cables or anything matter, go petition the company. Send flyers and mailing to all their customers to say that it doesn't matter and they are wasting their money. Would be far more productive that throwing out stupidity in a forum and arguing with people, just get them right at the source, but oh no, that requires time, and manors, and a sense of maybe I should think before I speak to someone about something that they care about and I don't.

btw did I ever claim that it makes a huge difference ect ect no, I just stated its not BS. The only way someone will ever know is TO TRY IT THEMSELVES.
and the cable I mentioned is a start and for the most part a very affordable alternative.

Knucklehead

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Problem is, your "suggestion" was pure BS, just like the link I posted. The claim that wires make a difference has no more merit than magnet therapy.

Hey, this is really affordable too, might as well give it a shot:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/140190467X/?tag=aarika-20

Keep in mind....electricity or electrical current takes the path of least resistance....think about it.

concealer404

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Good point, if a product isn't very expensive, no harm in trying it out, right? How about these, only $27 and can cure all kinds of problems. Worth a shot, eh?

http://www.magnetictherapymagnets.com/therapy.html

You do realize that there's scientific studies behind these/about these that hold about as much credibility as what you're using to "prove" to us that we aren't personally hearing differences with OUR ears on OUR gear with OUR cables in OUR homes while YOU sit elsewhere and READ about what you think you SHOULD be hearing.

concealer404

cstmar01 wrote: »

Lighten up... you look like a fool...Grow up....Grow up.

I like it.

Toolfan66

selkec wrote: »

Im Maybe one of these days Ill get the chance to be proved wrong. Untill then I wont believe the hype.

Then why post if you have not tried/and or have not had the chance to be proven wrong? Other then to stir the pot?

Since everybodys rig/setup is being run by that 100ft wire in the wall, then nothing I change in my rig should never sound any better or worse "RIGHT"?

So everybody is wasting there money on a better CDP pre amp/ amp because amps should all sound the same as well, cause it's being fed the same electricity from the same grid as my whole house (sarcasim just in case you did'nt catch it, I want you to keep up here) and we all waste our money on better IC's and speaker cables as well, But wait I think you posted and said speaker cables are different, am I right?

So sunshine do tell me with all your education on the subject here, How can a speaker cable make a difference and not a better power cable?


I will give you a few reasons why you can not tell us.

1) you have not really tried it.
2) with your rig I really don't think you woud hear an audiable difference anyway with a better power cord. again I am not knocking your rig.
3) I think your just here to cause trouble.



EDIT: i just read a few things from you on the Emo forum you say you owned the mono blocks XPA-1's so your system had to sound pretty good considering. So when you had them did you try a better power cord for the amps/ or the Power conditioner?

Ricardo

Ricardo wrote: »

There will never be a cables/wires/power cords thread without heated discussions.

Those who hear, hear. Those who don't hear, don't hear.

No arguments frome either side will convince the other side.

But....ain't these threads fun to see who's who; who loves throwing the bait; who always falls for the bait. And on an on for ever and ever.












P.S. Those who hear the differences are right. Those who don't are stupid.

Did I really type that???? I'm so sorry. Hope I didn't offend anyone. What I really meant was this:

Those who hear the difference, and those who don't are right.
Those who have not tried but still **** one way or another are stupid.

nooshinjohn

Ricardo wrote: »

Did I really type that???? I'm so sorry. Hope I didn't offend anyone. What I really meant was this:

Those who hear the difference, and those who don't are right.
Those who have not tried but still **** one way or another are stupid.

What he said.:eek:

inspiredsports

squeeb wrote: »

Holy crap - I posted this last night thinking I would see a few replies tonight with my quest. Wow - 3 hours of reading later ...

Thanks to (most) everyone for their input. Actually I appreciate everyone's opinions and think we can put this thread to bed. My plan is to order a power cord with some interconnects in a couple of weeks.

If it is alright with everyone, I will probably keep the results to myself.

Why? Slapping down your hard earned cash and listening for yourself is always the right answer and your opinion will be respected.

It's the antithesis that's a problem. All of the opinions expressed without the users specifically stating I bought "product x" and experienced "result y" is where the pure BS that ruins these threads occurs.

polkatese

Ricardo wrote: »

Did I really type that???? I'm so sorry. Hope I didn't offend anyone. What I really meant was this:

Those who hear the difference, and those who don't are right.
Those who have not tried but still **** one way or another are stupid.

Freudian slip?

Face

I could hug you Ricardo.

hearingimpared

Give him one for me.

BlueFox

squeeb wrote: »

Well I have searched around and do not see where (or if) it was previously posted. I am sure there are many opinions out there about power cable upgrades - so let's hear 'em.

After reading page 1, and seeing the usual fools making the usual know-it-all foolish statements, I can only say that you did not search very hard. There have actually been a few well written posts on this subject. Personally, I have yet to go this route, but every other cable change has made an obvious, positive improvement, so I would not be surprised in the least if power cable upgrades also change the sound.

As an FYI, I added brass vibration isolation footers to my power conditioner and it made an audbile improvement; a slightly clearer, detailed treble.

selkec

TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »

Then why post if you have not tried/and or have not had the chance to be proven wrong? Other then to stir the pot?

Since everybodys rig/setup is being run by that 100ft wire in the wall, then nothing I change in my rig should never sound any better or worse "RIGHT"?

So everybody is wasting there money on a better CDP pre amp/ amp because amps should all sound the same as well, cause it's being fed the same electricity from the same grid as my whole house (sarcasim just in case you did'nt catch it, I want you to keep up here) and we all waste our money on better IC's and speaker cables as well, But wait I think you posted and said speaker cables are different, am I right?

So sunshine do tell me with all your education on the subject here, How can a speaker cable make a difference and not a better power cable?


I will give you a few reasons why you can not tell us.

1) you have not really tried it.
2) with your rig I really don't think you woud hear an audiable difference anyway with a better power cord. again I am not knocking your rig.
3) I think your just here to cause trouble.



EDIT: i just read a few things from you on the Emo forum you say you owned the mono blocks XPA-1's so your system had to sound pretty good considering. So when you had them did you try a better power cord for the amps/ or the Power conditioner?

I did not try any other power cords for the amp. I did make my own. I also made my own speaker wires. And I ran them thru my xpa-1's. I never really compared the two speaker wires. (My diy to the regular 12 gauge wires). I put in my DIY cables and was ready to listen. So, Maybe the combo of the 2 was one reason I never had any hiss or buzz. Its hard to tell since I moved the exact same time I got them. The old place had the buzz and hiss new place didnt. The only time I noticed a buzz was with the old power cords laying by the old speaker wires. OK so maybe there is something here... Now you all got me thinking. I really cant afford any power cords right now to try plus I need to get some amps back into my system after selling them all off before my hand surgery. Maybe Ill start somewhere cheaper and work myself a cord at t time and give it a shot. Are these ok to start with. Since I have no amps I figure maybe get these for source components. http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQNRG1
I do not want to argue with you guys so I figure try it for myself. You all got me thinking and looking at stuff. Go figure. If these cords are not a good deal maybe someone has other suggestions for them.

PS I can get a 3 foot for about 46 shipped and a 6 foot for about 56 shipped. Is this a good price?
Also if I get the 6ft cord. It will be a little long right now. Is it bad to coil the slack up? It would be just one coil to take care of some of the slack. I Still want to keep my power cords away from speaker cables.

BlueFox

hearingimpared wrote: »

Sure it does. More and more doctors are going that route in lieu of medication. For instance, instead of my doctor giving my medication (with all its side effects) for my high triglycerides, he opted to have me take 2000mgs of fish oil twice a day . . . needless to say my triglycerides are down. Did I wish it or believe in a placebo effect, hell no, I had no control over the outcome. I kept eating the way I usually eat.

I have been thinking of trying it. Do you smell like fish when you perspire?

selkec

BlueFox wrote: »

I have been thinking of trying it. Do you smell like fish when you perspire?

I also take the fish oil at about the same dose. I was worried about the fish smell also. But, you can get oderless fish oil caps. They cost a little bit more but probably worth it to not smell like fish.