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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Well said.

    How come I don't see your name on the thread where the OP is offering FREE use of his power cords for a couple of weeks. Can't be that you are afraid you'll have to eat your words is it? Or maybe you just want to stay in the same stuck place.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited February 2010
    IDIOTS

    It is a shame that these turds are turds.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Look, if you want proof? Get your **** either to my house or attend Carverfest this year. I don't want to hear any excuses this time. Just get your **** there or STFU.

    You're the one making excuses. Why does anyone need to travel, and waste their time, just to listen to you make unverified claims on the sound of cables? How will that change anything?
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Raife has provided plenty of scientific proof, you just choose to ignore it or call it voo doo science. BTW IIRC he has been published.


    All he provided were measurements. Those measurements show results that are well below the human threshold of hearing. I don't ignore it, it just doesn't prove anything. I don't understand why that's so hard for you to get.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    IDIOTS

    It is a shame that these turds are turds.

    It's really a shame that you can't come up with anything to support your beliefs, and can only resort to name calling.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    It's really a shame that you can't come up with anything to support your beliefs

    Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    It's really a shame that you can't come up with anything to support your beliefs,

    Ummm you haven't provided one shred of evidence to the contrary. I read all your links and already gave you my assessment of them.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Ummm you haven't provided one shred of evidence to the contrary. I read all your links and already gave you my assessment of them.

    That's because you have a closed mind, and ignore anything that casts doubt on your beliefs. Too bad you can't actually counter it with evidence of cable differences, then you might have something.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    LOL! Closed mind? I spent hours reading everyone of those links thoroughly. I already stated my impressions. I'm no longer communicating with a brick wall. Carry on.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    All he provided were measurements.

    But that is precisely what the AVA 'object'ivists demand...and yet when provided...is insufficient...dismissed...rejected....

    To me that is closed minded pendandic circular illogic...you loose...Bob...please tell our player what they get for playing....."nothing"!!! :mad:

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,185
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 actually makes me yearn for the BobT, "spearker" cable days. At least then, we had a half **** unintelligent discussion. That's sad.

    Real sad.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited February 2010
    I stepped outside and stepped in a pile of WM2. It's hard to scrape off my boot. Yuck!
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I stepped outside and stepped in a pile of WM2. It's hard to scrape off my boot. Yuck!

    Why people like to "advertise" their below average IQ is beyond me.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited February 2010
    moodyman wrote: »
    Why people like to "advertise" their below average IQ is beyond me.
    It's kinda expected from me around here.:) Don't be so moody, moody.
    And for the record. It's 137.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    But that is precisely what the AVA 'object'ivists demand...and yet when provided...is insufficient...dismissed...rejected....

    Why didn't you quote the whole post? I didn't dismiss it, the results are below the threshold of audibility, they actually support the case for no audible difference.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    WilliamM2 actually makes me yearn for the BobT, "spearker" cable days. At least then, we had a half **** unintelligent discussion. That's sad.

    Real sad.

    No need for BobT, you do a great job of unintelligent conversation.
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited February 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    do you smell like fish :D I'm sorry Joe that just got me laughing:D
    this was a good (long) read, and well worth it. entertaining and informative. knowledge is power and I just learned something new. I know when I switched speaker cables the difference was unreal, not neccesarily for the better at first but it was very noticeable to me,wife, familly,freinds...I never even thought about power cables but after reading other peoples posts who have ACTUALLY TRIED IT - this will be my next tweak
    panasonic th-50pz85u
    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
    sa 8300 hd dvr
    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
    harmony one
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Why didn't you quote the whole post? I didn't dismiss it, the results are below the threshold of audibility, they actually support the case for no audible difference.

    It supports the case for a lower noise floor even an amateur could pick that up.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Why didn't you quote the whole post? I didn't dismiss it, the results are below the threshold of audibility, they actually support the case for no audible difference.
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Right on. But you won't change their minds since they believe that they do hear a difference.
    It's all in the mind. How about Dat!

    Atleast William has tried different cables in his rig so his arguement holds more water than just a troll like you who hasn't and just parrots what he reads. Yeah you are right, it's all in your mind never from experience with your ears.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    What psychic ability do you have to know what I've listened to and for how long? These arguments have been debated and discussed for as long as I can remember. My physics teacher debunked it for me years ago. There are still two strong sides to it.
    It is the classic subjective vs objective argument. You lose the argument though when you resort to personal attacks. Archie B. called Mike "Meathead" and Edith "Dingbat". Like Archie, you resort to childish name calling with "troll". Case closed. Have a fine day.
    It is awesome here in New Orleans, as we are the champions my friend!

    You've been asked many, many times and have balked! That doesn't take psychic abilities. No, I haven't lost the debate, you are a troll that really does just stir the pot. I gave you more credit than you deserved in a previous post but I see now that you just parrot what you've read and ride the coat tails of other objectionists.

    BTW the Saints football team won the championship not the fans. I don't remember seeing you on the field taking your lumps.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,457
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    BTW the Saints football team won the championship not the fans. I don't remember seeing you on the field taking your lumps.


    He has taken imaginary lumps.... just like his imaginary experiences with anything audio related or the topic at hand.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    What psychic ability do you have to know what I've listened to and for how long?

    Nobody knows. Go to the Two Channel category, and answer the question in the Cable Data thread. Provide the data as to what speaker cables you have used to reach the conclusion that "Cables make no difference." Nothing more, nothing less.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    You missed what QB Drew Brees and Saints Owner Tom Benson said.
    They won it for the Who Dat Nation!
    But of course you are always right no matter what the facts are.:rolleyes:

    Anyways don't worry and be happy. :)

    Sooo.... this has to do with what cables you have tried how?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    I hope with just 41 posts that the original poster (squeeb) doesn't just cut and run after seeing the less than energizing w2, mood, xcap, etc. posts.

    I've gotten a great deal of enjoyment patiently burning in and auditioning almost a dozen power cables this past year. I can share that I 've been rewarded with marginal to outstanding improvements, but have never gone back to and stayed with any of the originally supplied cables.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    But of course you are always right no matter what the facts are.:rolleyes:

    No, when I'm wrong I admit it. I always weigh the facts and draw conclusions from them. One fact that I know is ALWAYS RIGHT is experience trumps all the reading in the world.

    Case in point. You get a BS from school in computer science or electronic engineering. Without going out and experiencing in the working world what you were taught you are completely clueless as to the real world situations that present themselves. All the education in world counts for nothing without experience unless of course you are going to be a professor of some type then you are just passing on theories based on book knoweldge.

    Be happy, you just learned something.:)
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  • kaiserkreb
    kaiserkreb Posts: 16
    edited February 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    Yep my ears lie to me. Lucky I got out of my strait jacket.

    If you actually knew to what capacity your eyes lie to you on a second by second basis you would definitely stop and question what your ears are doing.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    kaiserkreb wrote: »
    If you actually knew to what capacity your eyes lie to you on a second by second basis you would definitely stop and question what your ears are doing.

    But you just have to stop and question YOURSELF: Do you REALLY care that your eyes and ears are lying to you, as long as you enjoy it?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited February 2010
    kaiserkreb wrote: »
    If you actually knew to what capacity your eyes lie to you on a second by second basis you would definitely stop and question what your ears are doing.

    Hilarious.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • kaiserkreb
    kaiserkreb Posts: 16
    edited February 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    And why do you say that?
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  • kaiserkreb
    kaiserkreb Posts: 16
    edited February 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    But you just have to stop and question YOURSELF: Do you REALLY care that your eyes and ears are lying to you, as long as you enjoy it?

    Touche, I'm just sayin' is all.
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