Power Cable Upgrade

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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    selkec wrote: »
    Speaker cables are another thing totally. Were talking power cables here for those of you that cant figure it out.

    No, they're not. No one has any evidence of those making a difference either. A myth is a myth.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I have yet to see you post what cables you have DBT.

    Why? So you can claim they were the wrong cables? If cables really make a difference, then they would all be different, no way around it.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    You got that right.

    Boy you are creative, Bravo for you.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Why? So you can claim they were the wrong cables? If cables really make a difference, then they would all be different, no way around it.

    Wrong!!
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
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    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
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    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited February 2010
    To the OP...

    Power cords won't make a damn bit of audible difference except if you think it does....

    :cool:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    No, they're not. No one has any evidence of those making a difference either. A myth is a myth.

    Yep my ears lie to me. Lucky I got out of my strait jacket.
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    Well I had fun trolls thanks for the party.
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    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    selkec wrote: »
    Im not a trouble maker. Science can prove you wrong. I dont care what you think you hear or cant hear. I would say your name suits you right HEARINGIMPARED you must be.

    Not getting into the debate but dude not cool. That's an insult and I'm sick of reading crap like this.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    That's no homeopathy. Maybe you should look it up. If your doctor actually practices homepathy, you need to find a new one.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy



    You asked how, not how much. And cables have been measured with such devices. Guess what they found?

    I know what homeopathy is thank you very much.

    I asked if you knew how much the device costs.

    You can measure a cable all you want but that device can't measure soundstage (height, width, depth), imaging, inner detail, air around instruments and vocals, weight of music etc. etc. Are you saying it can? If so, I would really like to get one.
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  • selkec
    selkec Posts: 187
    edited February 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    Not getting into the debate but dude not cool. That's an insult and I'm sick of reading crap like this.

    Thats no worse than whoever said STFU which means shut the **** up. This site is full of crap like this. Its nothing new.:mad:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    moodyman wrote: »
    To the OP...

    Power cords won't make a damn bit of audible difference except if you think it does....

    :cool:

    Very thoughful and insightful parroting.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,457
    edited February 2010
    selkec wrote: »
    Thats no worse than whoever said STFU which means ???????. This site is full of crap like this. Its nothing new.:mad:

    reported...

    If you don't like it here then leave... the last thing needed here is you causing troubles. I know this is your sole intent as you posted this somewhere else...
    what is the title of the thread at the polk site? I want to see it to get a laugh and maybe say a thing or two. They are a bunch of asses over there.

    Don't let the door smack you on the way out.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    Not getting into the debate but dude not cool. That's an insult and I'm sick of reading crap like this.

    Whoa I couldn't see that cause I have him on ignore. No he's not a trouble maker.:rolleyes: "Do as I say, not as I do" is his mantra." :rolleyes: How about that little stunt he pulled over at the Emo lounge last week. He's here to cause trouble, put down the Polk membership, disrespect more knowledgeable people and needs to be ignored.

    I'll put my ears up against any of you naysayers and always come out on top.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    selkec wrote: »
    Thats no worse than whoever said STFU which means shut the **** up. This site is full of crap like this. Its nothing new.:mad:

    Now looking at the system your running, and its not a bad system by any means, a very nice system really but I really don't think you will hear a very big change in your system with an upgraded $$ power cord. If really at all.

    I will have to pull mine and try it in my HT rig.

    P.S I am the one that said STFU and I stand behind it if you have not tried it then really Shut up.
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    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
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    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

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    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Which cord did you end up with? I'm running one of these right now, and wouldn't mind tweaking it a bit.

    My favorite so far is a 20A Shunyata Diamondback Platinum. Surprisingly, my Signal Cable 20A MagicPower is second and coincidentally, I paid about $59 for it.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    It will stop when you can actually provide some proof that power cables defy the laws of physics. Could be a nobel in it for you as well.

    Hmmm . . . there's a law of physics I would love to test involving gravity, a power cable, a necktie . . .
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    Hmmm . . . there's a law of physics I would love to test involving gravity, a power cable, a necktie . . .


    Go for it. Let us know your results.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I have tried different cables, Even participated in DBT's.

    Why don't you STFU until you actually have some evidence of your claims? I'm tired of hearing about your delusions.
    It appears you're in need of these:
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    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I know what homeopathy is thank you very much.

    Well it's not what you described in your response. Go ahead, read the link, don't be afraid of a little knowledge. It won't hurt you.
    I asked if you knew how much the device costs.

    No I don't, but there's a link right there on the page to check options and get pricing.
    You can measure a cable all you want but that device can't measure soundstage (height, width, depth), imaging, inner detail, air around instruments and vocals, weight of music etc. etc. Are you saying it can? If so, I would really like to get one

    Why not? If there is a change in any of those parameters, there will be a change in the electrical signal.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    Face wrote: »
    It appears you're in need of these:

    In other words, you still got nothing. Bummer.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Go for it. Let us know your results.

    When can you come over?
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    When can you come over?
    Good luck with that.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    Yawn....
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    When can you come over?

    Take your internet tough guy act somewhere else. You're not very convincing.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/v/82EgBhiNtAc&hl=en_US&fs=1&
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    And I'm not going to debate if cables make a difference or not, but with the price of signal cable is, I would say pick one up, they are very very easy to resell if you find you don't like them. They go very fast usually on audiogon and here too. I personally find signal to be a great company overall and for the price for a starting point its hard to beat for me. Try them out see if you like them and if they make a difference for you. if they do great! if you don't see anything at least you tried.
    Other places too like MIT is very nice, more expensive however.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    In other words, you still got nothing. Bummer.

    And you do??? I have yet to see you offer anything you can't even post what cables you have tried. Bummer.
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited February 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    And I'm not going to debate if cables make a difference or not, but with the price of signal cable is, I would say pick one up, they are very very easy to resell if you find you don't like them. They go very fast usually on audiogon and here too. I personally find signal to be a great company overall and for the price for a starting point its hard to beat for me. Try them out see if you like them and if they make a difference for you. if they do great! if you don't see anything at least you tried.
    Other places too like MIT is very nice, more expensive however.

    Good point, if a product isn't very expensive, no harm in trying it out, right? How about these, only $27 and can cure all kinds of problems. Worth a shot, eh?

    http://www.magnetictherapymagnets.com/therapy.html
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  • selkec
    selkec Posts: 187
    edited February 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    reported...

    If you don't like it here then leave... the last thing needed here is you causing troubles. I know this is your sole intent as you posted this somewhere else...



    Don't let the door smack you on the way out.

    Reported what??????????????? I am not the one using acronyms like STFU. So you go ahead and report whoever you want. Im here stating my side just like some of you are stating your side. Maybe one of these days Ill get the chance to be proved wrong. Untill then I wont believe the hype.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited February 2010
    I really question why some even bothered to join an audio forum.
    HT SYSTEM-
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
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