Patrick, forum needs respect.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited May 2009
    speakertweekar wrote: »
    Its you regular on here that start many of the fights
    Do not lump sum every regular into this category. It is an incorrect general assumption.
    speakertweekar wrote: »
    YOUR SOOOOOO SO RUDE IN A SNOTTY WAY
    This is not rude? Capitalized letters represent screaming on an internet board.
    speakertweekar wrote: »
    .....if you addressed people in the real world in that manner then youd all be in and out of hospital week in, week out
    Again, a very incorrect general assumption. Obviously you are making your assumptions based upon the warranted responses to you and other trolls. You reap what you sow. You fail to miss the countless other posts that help the many that come seeking advice or help.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    Just ignore posts you don't like. Ignore members you don't like. They will go away when they find out they have no soapbox from which to be heard.

    If you choose to not participate then you won't clog up the forum with stupid threads like this. As far as I am concerned threads like this are of the same mold as "trolls". No offense, but you just gotta let it go. Gettin' all pissy and calling for reform is the chaos any troll wants.

    Don't participate, the community will correct itself from within. We are all adults. We don't need any more moderation.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited May 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It is obvious and if a veteran, for example, isn't capable of handling an internet user forum, take a hike. There's a whole bunch of cool forums they could get upset in just like this one.
    Mark, I loves ya' bro but you are losing respect with each post you make. You tell TroyD to **** off and the next thing you know, we [as a forum] can't edit. Folks that have a legit complaint about trolls and others not following the rules set forth in this forum and you tell them to take a hike. Nice, real nice.

    All we are asking for is a little respect and help in cleaning up the forum. You dig?

    Not too much to ask at all. You know, having folks follow the forum rules?
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Mark, I loves ya' bro but you are losing respect with each post you make. You tell TroyD to **** off and the next thing you know, we [as a forum] can't edit. Folks that have a legit complaint about trolls and others not following the rules set forth in this forum and you tell them to take a hike. Nice, real nice.

    All we are asking for is a little respect and help in cleaning up the forum. You dig?

    Not too much to ask at all. You know, having folks follow the forum rules?

    I feel ya'. But, have you noticed certain members here like Trey, for example, seem to participate only in audio threads? They seem to have a better experience on the forum as a result.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited May 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It is obvious and if a veteran, for example, isn't capable of handling an internet user forum, take a hike. There's a whole bunch of cool forums they could get upset in just like this one.

    Mark,

    It's not that I can't handle an internet forum. I have thick skin. I just don't feel like dealing with **** that come here to throw offensive threads and get away with it. If this is the new forum, then have fun with it.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2009
    Tom - Troy and I hashed all that out ages ago and it had ZERO to do with you and ZERO to do with editing posts. I'm not here to win a popularity contest and if I lose your respect, I'll have to find some way to deal with that in private I guess. I'm sure Perghaps thru intensive therapy and medication. Just because the Red Hat Club doesn't always get their way doesn't mean you aren't respected or that you're not listened to behind the scenes. You think you know more than you do and as far as newbies go....you're as much of a newbie to me as the next guy. Whatever, carry on, fly into a blind rage, kick a dog or punch your children....I don't have any more control over your life than you over mine.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Mark,

    It's not that I can't handle an internet forum. I have thick skin. I just don't feel like dealing with **** that come here to throw offensive threads and get away with it. If this is the new forum, then have fun with it.

    What thread is around now? I'm sorry Ricardo but I'm not seeing a huge problem. I'm on daily, if not 3-4 times and there are 6 others that prowl,close and delete. There is an awful lot of latitude that senior members and the core are given, we can shut that down starting tonight.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited May 2009
    All I and others are asking is for the forum members to follow the rules. Trolling, name calling and other rules are violated on many posts by some of the latest rash of members. A warning perhaps? A PM to let them know that they are treading on thin ice?

    Why the constant allowing of abusive posts? I'm not looking to change the forum. What I and others are asking is that we have a little bit more help in maintaining civility on this board. Allowing newbies who are obvious trolls to continue their banter is no different than offering permission to continue trolling.

    If Polk wants to abandon the rules of the forum, then fine. We'll deal with it. Why, when we do have rules are they not being enforced? All that does is trash the forum with useless posts, creates a harbor for trolls and offers permission for those that are troublemakers to continue doing what they are doing.

    As for the Troy thing, I'll admit I may have read into that the wrong way. I just noticed what I noticed. If all is well, that will be the last statement on that subject.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2009
    One more idiot for the ignore list......Damn it's getting long.
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  • Barefoot
    Barefoot Posts: 149
    edited May 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    There is an awful lot of latitude that senior members and the core are given, we can shut that down starting tonight.

    Mark, please do.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    Ill be the first to admit, I have posted a few and posted in a few threads with less than half a brain working and I apologize for it. Just about everyone that posts here has said some pretty nasty things, deserving or not. I have said all along nobody "owns" this forum and asking for administrative privlages is a little out of line. If the Mods feel its time for someone to go then they will make that decision.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2009
    Tom what you are asking for is preferential treatment for some members & for some newbies to be put down at will.

    But as Mark pointed out HALF of the problem is with established members as well. If those members would IGNORE the trolls they would go away all on their own. But they don't everyone has to prove what a big man they are.

    "There is an awful lot of latitude that senior members and the core are given, we can shut that down starting tonight."

    I'm all for ALL forum members following the rules Tom. Mark, I think it is time for your above statement to be put in effect. If they decide to leave for good, so be it. Maybe the other tough guys will get the hint and start hitting the report button rather than keeping the fight going.
    treitz3 wrote: »
    All I and others are asking is for the forum members to follow the rules. Trolling, name calling and other rules are violated on many posts by some of the latest rash of members. A warning perhaps? A PM to let them know that they are treading on thin ice?

    Why the constant allowing of abusive posts? I'm not looking to change the forum. What I and others are asking is that we have a little bit more help in maintaining civility on this board. Allowing newbies who are obvious trolls to continue their banter is no different than offering permission to continue trolling.

    If Polk wants to abandon the rules of the forum, then fine. We'll deal with it. Why, when we do have rules are they not being enforced? All that does is trash the forum with useless posts, creates a harbor for trolls and offers permission for those that are troublemakers to continue doing what they are doing.

    As for the Troy thing, I'll admit I may have read into that the wrong way. I just noticed what I noticed. If all is well, that will be the last statement on that subject.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited May 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Tom what you are asking for is preferential treatment for some members & for some newbies to be put down at will.
    Incorrect. What I and others are asking for is the rules to be enforced or abandon the rules altogether.

    Clear enough now?
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Incorrect. What I and others are asking for is the rules to be enforced or abandon the rules altogether.

    Clear enough now?

    As long as the rules are enforced equally, lets see how long some of the members stick around then..........:rolleyes:
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited May 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    There is an awful lot of latitude that senior members and the core are given, we can shut that down starting tonight.

    I say there's no reason why anyone should get special treatment.

    And I still love you Mark.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited May 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    I say there's no reason why anyone should get special treatment.

    And I still love you Mark.
    Agreed.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited May 2009
    I dont get this - some members come on here and post some problems theyre seeing with the forum and suggest ways to fix it. Whats the response? "Dont like it? Tough! Get the F out!" Whats with this attitude?
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    It seems a lot of members are so concerned with rule #8.....what about the other rules? This place would be empty if they enforced ALL of the rules.

    From the rules:


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    Reacting to a hostile post with more hostility puts YOU in jeopardy, and risks your account from being deleted. To be objective and fair about situations where forum members are attacking each other, BOTH members' accounts will be removed from our forum (and no, we don't care who started it).


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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited May 2009
    I am guilty of not following a few of those.... thanks Knucklehead for the refresher course...
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    And i as well...I really want to be a member in good standing but I feel I may have burned a few bridges....Oh Well.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,460
    edited May 2009
    I like trolls, I eat them for lunch.

    Mac, +1
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2009
    MacLeod wrote: »
    I dont get this - some members come on here and post some problems theyre seeing with the forum and suggest ways to fix it. Whats the response? "Dont like it? Tough! Get the F out!" Whats with this attitude?
    seems to be the question of the day.

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    exalted512 wrote: »
    seems to be the question of the day.


    Is that really the question of the day?....Its obvious they have things under control, and just maybe see things from another point of view.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2009
    I haven't seen these threads everyone is talking about...probably b/c I dont venture off to the home audio side. But theres enough people concerned enough to start and maintain 2 separate threads about the matter, then its obvious they DO NOT have things under control.

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    its obvious they do....its about the same crap...trolling
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited May 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It was probably addressed by the folks that you think don't visit or participate enough, huh?

    +1 million
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited May 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Cathy, Steve,

    Sorry but that is just BS.

    That's your opinion. You do whatever you feel is appropriate, but I'll be damned if I'll be led around by the nostril by some punk-**** kid. I couldn't care less.

    Do you even hear yourselves talking? You ARE letting these swizzle-sticks manipulate you. Now THATS BS.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited May 2009
    I'll bet the trolls are rolling on the floor laughing at us bickering with each other about them. They seem to be accomplishing their goals.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited May 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I feel ya'. But, have you noticed certain members here like Trey, for example, seem to participate only in audio threads? They seem to have a better experience on the forum as a result.

    Nail on the head brother. This drama queen crap is as 4th grade as it gets. I'm forty-****-seven years old, I don't let "dim-bulbs" ruffle my feathers; I got bigger fish to fry. :cool:

    I'm here to talk audio, hi-fi---anybody remember what that is? I'm not here to improve upon my ego, my internet prowess, or my station in life here at Club Polk.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2009
    Man, if this is all you guys have to **** about, I don't know what the problem is... Either your life is that awesome that this slight piss on the cornflakes violates your world view so hard that you have to get mad, or that your life sucks that much that this forum is the only escape... I don't know which one is more sad... Carry on...
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