Anybody else read this review?

concealer404

Cpyder wrote: »

So when people where coloring like kids at preschool on their cds and hearing differences, science was in agreement? No. Never does popular opinion dictate scientific evidence. That is never the case. If that were true, the earth is still flat and geocentric.

I think you may have misread what i typed, sir.

I was referring to that debate being "really the same thing" as the Emotiva is awesome vs. not awesome debate.

BlueFox

I am not going to waste any more time on this thread. This is the first time I have bothered with this type of regular occurring threads, and it is not worth it. When dealing with individuals who have no personal experience with the subject matter, yet feel their “opinion” is somehow equal to the opinion of others who do have experience with the subject, you are just wasting your time.

My final point is concluding that simply because something which is apparent to many, but cannot be quantitively measured, does not actually exist, is the text book definition of being close-minded. For example, when CDs were first released people were saying they do not sound quite right. That something is missing, or added. As the years went by, and the engineers spent more time researching this area, they discovered there is a new unknown phenomina with digital recording in that it introduces distortion before the note occurs. They called it digital pre-ringing, and now that it is understood, it can be measured, and within the last year ultra-expensive CD players have been introduced that eliminate this pre-ringing, and make CDs sound even better. To the close minded, simply because pre-ringing was not measured at first it therefore did not exist. Yet, now we know that it does exist, and it is audible.

As time goes by, other electrical characteristics will be discovered and understood, and they will help us better understand how cables and vibration isolation do improve the sound. Perhaps we will even see new circuitry that mimics these characteristics.

http://www.stereophile.com/cdplayers/meridian_8082808i2_signature_reference_cd_playerpreamplifier/index.html

shack

Cogito wrote:

Closed minds never learn anything new... Not something to brag about.

Moving from audio to psychoanalysis are we? You evidently have a multitude of talents. See I just learned something new! I think I will just close my mind to you. Bye.

WilliamM2

F1nut wrote: »

Why?



As I stated, a pessimistic belief and expectation.

Because apparently you didn't read it, or didn't understand it.

When nothing is changed at all, it's not pessimistic to not notice a difference. There is no difference.

concealer404

I love it when Schrodinger's cat is applied to audio.

Cpyder

concealer404 wrote: »

I think you may have misread what i typed, sir.

I was referring to that debate being "really the same thing" as the Emotiva is awesome vs. not awesome debate.

Sorry 'bout that!

concealer404

Cpyder wrote: »

Sorry 'bout that!

It's cool i'm not mad.

Cpyder

concealer404 wrote: »

I love it when Schrodinger's cat is applied to audio.

I love applying quantum mechanics to macroscopic events! My cat is dead however. I dropped the flask of poison when I was putting it into the box with the cat. Take that probability!

Cpyder

concealer404 wrote: »

It's cool i'm not mad.

You seem pretty cool. This is not directed at you, but maybe others can learn from us.

I made a mistake, and then apologized. See, it's not so hard. It hardly hurts at all. In fact, I feel a little better.

Cogito

shack wrote: »

Moving from audio to psychoanalysis are we? You evidently have a multitude of talents. See I just learned something new! I think I will just close my mind to you. Bye.

I'd be will to talk about it if you'd like. I do have a degree in psychology. Tell me my friend, did you and your mother get along during your adolescence?

concealer404

Cpyder wrote: »

I love applying quantum mechanics to macroscopic events! My cat is dead however. I dropped the flask of poison when I was putting it into the box with the cat. Take that probability!

I see that.

megasat16

Cogito wrote: »

I'd be will to talk about it if you'd like. I do have a degree in psychology. Tell me my friend, did you and your mother get along during your adolescence?

Sorry Newb Troll for I am about to chime in. You did say you are educated and have a psychology degree but yet to ask something silly question as this! Are you sure you have taken any psychology class at all or it's all in your head? Please double check your Academic History!

We need to give F1 a Ban Button to rid of such stinker in PC!

WilliamM2

megasat16 wrote: »

Sorry Newb Troll for I am about to chime in. You did say you are educated and have a psychology degree but yet to ask something silly question as this! Are you sure you have taken any psychology class at all or it's all in your head? Please double check your Academic History!

We need to give F1 a Ban Button to rid of such stinker in PC!

Sure, give the ban button to someone who has been banned a few times himself. Great idea.:rolleyes:

reeltrouble1

if unacted upon the destiny of any **** is preordained by just two possible paths and one final outcome.

there is a small village somewhere throwing a party while chanting Katy bar the Door.

of course there is always the ever slight chance that the One has appeared and we are saved, however, these familiar echos sound the same to me

RT1

hearingimpared

WilliamM2 wrote: »

Sure, give the ban button to someone who has been banned a few times himself. Great idea.:rolleyes:

You can't even get your facts straight how are we to let you save us from ourselves.:rolleyes:

Cogito

megasat16 wrote: »

Sorry Newb Troll for I am about to chime in. You did say you are educated and have a psychology degree but yet to ask something silly question as this! Are you sure you have taken any psychology class at all or it's all in your head? Please double check your Academic History!

We need to give F1 a Ban Button to rid of such stinker in PC!

Oh, come on! Did you not find the post even slightly ammusing? I tried...

Cogito

Here's a little tibit from someone vastly more qualified than I.

http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html

hearingimpared

Cogito wrote: »

Here's a little tibit from someone vastly more qualified than I.

http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html

Yawn!:rolleyes:

concealer404

Cogito wrote: »

Here's a little tibit from someone vastly more qualified than I.

http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html

Awesome! You just saved me a bunch of money from buying the Dunlavy speakers that just popped up locally! If he can't hear the difference between cables, then i expect his speakers to sound roughly equivalent to White Van brand.

That tidbit has no more science than us saying that we can hear a difference. I don't care who said it.

madmax

Cogito wrote: »

Here's a little tibit from someone vastly more qualified than I.

http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html

Don't count on it. I read down to "claims about being directional" and hit the exit button, couldn't take another paragraph of the same old "can't be explained by me so I am dismissing it" writing.

madmax

Erik Tracy

concealer404 wrote: »

Awesome! You just saved me a bunch of money from buying the Dunlavy speakers that just popped up locally! If he can't hear the difference between cables, then i expect his speakers to sound roughly equivalent to White Van brand.

That tidbit has no more science than us saying that we can hear a difference. I don't care who said it.

But its a link....from the internet.....it must be true!!

concealer404

Erik Tracy wrote: »

But its a link....from the internet.....it must be true!!

It's true that John Dunlavy can save himself a shitload of money by buying RatShack cables.

Has no bearing on anyone else, or at least it shouldn't. Apparently there's people out there that like being told by others what they hear or don't.

Erik Tracy

concealer404 wrote: »

It's true that John Dunlavy can save himself a shitload of money by buying RatShack cables.

Has no bearing on anyone else, or at least it shouldn't. Apparently there's people out there that like being told by others what they hear or don't.

But...if enough link lemmings post and believe the link - then it becomes established objective fact and those that don't are shouted down as subjectivists who should be pitied and schooled in DBT.

I plan on selling all my equipment and buy this system here:



I will let the so called objectivists grind their teeth at night in fanatical fervor, vigilantly patrol the various audio forums, and shout down anyone who believes, falsely, that anyone can hear an audible difference between my new system and a 'high' end system -while I sleep soundly knowing that my system is just as good as anyone elses....cuz the links say so......;)

concealer404

Needs more blue leds before it'll truly sound good.

Face

Hey guys, I just bought drag radials for my car, does that make me an expert on drag racing?

concealer404

Face wrote: »

Hey guys, I just bought drag radials for my car, does that make me an expert on drag racing?

Absolutely. Now that you have drag radials, there is no car out there faster than yours!

concealer404

How in the hell did this thread go from a **** review of Monitor 30s to this?

Cpyder

Cogito wrote: »

Here's a little tibit from someone vastly more qualified than I.

http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html

Although I agree with what is said here - anyone here on CP who believes in directional cables and actively refuses placebo effects, for example, will dismiss any comments or research against these phenomena. It's just a fact here - no matter where it comes from. It could be an article from NIST and they'd still ridicule it.

Don't take it personally.

Face

Cpyder wrote: »

Don't take it personally.

Don't worry, I won't.

SCompRacer

Face wrote: »

Hey guys, I just bought drag radials for my car......

Have you experienced any bead slippage?