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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    wudai_e wrote:
    Who cares if EMO overstates and mislead their customers or not

    Nobody cares that you don't care...we certainly don't care. Why do you care if we care or not?
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • wudai_e
    wudai_e Posts: 15
    edited April 2009
    shack wrote: »
    Nobody cares that you don't care...we certainly don't care. Why do you care if we care or not?

    Why do you think I care if you care or not care or care care not? :D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,198
    edited April 2009
    wudai_e wrote: »
    I didn't read the whole thing only the first couple of pages and lol guys, please get a hold of yourselves.

    Who cares if EMO overstates and mislead their customers or not, as long as they sound good to my ears compare to other blablah brands with a similar price, I'd be happy. Also, I just don't get the comparison of Porsche vs Stereo equipments... are you comparing the brand recognition? How many people who's not auto enthusiasts know Porsche and many non-audiophiles know Krell? Are you comparing the scope of engineering? It's not even close and while you can find speakers with a price that can fill a parking lot with Porsches. Stop arguing over price vs value, and stop comparing apples with oranges.


    Finally a voice of reason :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2009
    yet, there are so many polk members here who are not..
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    Let's all do the Rick dance...

    One...two...three...

    Never gonna give you up...
    Never gonna let you down....
    Never gonna run around and desert you....
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • wudai_e
    wudai_e Posts: 15
    edited April 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Finally a voice of reason :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    lol I wouldn't be here if I can reason.
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited April 2009
    wudai_e wrote: »
    How many people who's not auto enthusiasts know Porsche and many non-audiophiles know Krell?

    Uhhh.... a crapload? According to Google Trends, Porsche is researched twice as often as Pontiac or Cadillac and is roughly on par with Chevy.

    PorscheTrends.gif?t=1239114595
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  • wudai_e
    wudai_e Posts: 15
    edited April 2009
    timlitton wrote: »
    Uhhh.... a crapload? According to Google Trends, Porsche is researched twice as often as Pontiac or Cadillac and is roughly on par with Chevy.

    PorscheTrends.gif?t=1239114595

    Well you just make my point then, thx;)
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2009
    I am sure porsche is somehow remotely related to emotiva....
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    What does a porch have to do with an EMU?

    Unless of course you have an EMU on your porch...then you may have some issues...like how do you get into your house with an EMU standing on your porch in front of the door?
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    We're no strangers to love...
    You know the rules...and so do I...

    Still doin' the Rick dance....:D
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited April 2009
    Hell, I'm not trying to prove anything. I just like Google Trends.
    Slowly emerging from the 90's
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    Center: Polk CS350ls
    Pre: Sony STRDA555ES
    Amp: Rotel RMB-1075
    Sub: Velodyne SPL-1000
    TV: 46" Sharp Aquos LCD
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited April 2009
    shack wrote: »
    What does a porch have to do with an EMU?

    Unless of course you have an EMU on your porch...then you may have some issues...like how do you get into your house with an EMU standing on your porch in front of the door?
    shack wrote: »
    We're no strangers to love...
    You know the rules...and so do I...

    Still doin' the Rick dance....:D

    RickAstleyEmu.jpg?t=1239127456


    This looks like trouble....
    Slowly emerging from the 90's
    Fronts: Polk LSi15's
    Center: Polk CS350ls
    Pre: Sony STRDA555ES
    Amp: Rotel RMB-1075
    Sub: Velodyne SPL-1000
    TV: 46" Sharp Aquos LCD
    Dust magnet: Sony PS3
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    moe wrote: »
    That's an ok amp,slightly harsh but powerful,enjoy.

    This is 'not' a good thread to be serious in! But, personally, I do not find Adcoms to be harsh! Are there better, yeah...but harsh is too harsh. They sound a lot warmer than most 1000-2000+ Receivers.

    Now back to the never ending Emo story...Emo...

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2009
    I'd put the Adcoms on the grainy side, depending on which series they were, The newer ones seem to be worse than others. Other than that, they are normally bullet-proof. If I had my choice, I'd stick with HCA series Parasounds, which used are in the same price range.
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    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    I have the original model 555. I know reviews say they're grainy...but it doesn't sound that prominent to me. Parasounds I have heard are a bit smoother.

    Apologies for interrupting our thread here.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited April 2009
    Three things:

    Firstly, the Spearker Cables thread is totally inferior to this, Ricardo's masterpiece. It cannot be allowed to surpass this thread in views and/or post count.

    Secondly, a new Emotiva review is available from Audioholics. This is for the UPA-2 model. The result is pretty much a foregone conclusion if past results are anything to judge them by. http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-upa-2-stereo-amplifier

    Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to remind our faithful viewers that Ricardo did not actually own the faulty units described at the beginning of this thread himself, as he has repeatedly stated, but was merely conveying the information for our perusal and enjoyment.
    Ricardo wrote: »
    ... As for the sound, I have not heard them, so I can't say anything on that side. ...
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Mike, not mine; just a post I found informative given all the hype with Emotiva. ...
    Alea jacta est!
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    Three things:

    Firstly, the Spearker Cables thread is totally inferior to this, Ricardo's masterpiece. It cannot be allowed to surpass this thread in views and/or post count.

    Secondly, a new Emotiva review is available from Audioholics. This is for the UPA-2 model. The result is pretty much a foregone conclusion if past results are anything to judge them by. http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-upa-2-stereo-amplifier

    Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to remind our faithful viewers that Ricardo did not actually own the faulty units described at the beginning of this thread himself, as he has repeatedly stated, but was merely conveying the information for our perusal and enjoyment.

    :D:DSo... In the review they compared a 125wpc amplifier to a 40wpc AVR. Now THERE is an article worth reading. :rolleyes:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,198
    edited April 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    I have the original model 555. I know reviews say they're grainy...but it doesn't sound that prominent to me. Parasounds I have heard are a bit smoother.

    Apologies for interrupting our thread here.

    cnh

    I've never thought Adcom amps were grainy either. If you pair it with the same generation Adcom pre-amp that's where the grain comes from IMO. Adcom has really only made 1 pre-amp that is any good............and it's stellar; the GFP-750.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled EMO program.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    Holy Batman,

    We're only one post ahead of seafoam's string thread cord wire thingy!


    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    The RPA-1 review is the same. Worthless. They compared it to an AVR and bench tests.
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    RTi28 Rears
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    H/K AVR-247
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    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    here is another post for you then cnh. The review an audioholics support just what we have said here all along. The EMO amps are probably great if you are stepping up from an AVR, but they just don't have the finnesse of many of the preferred higher priced/quality amplifiers.
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    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,198
    edited April 2009
    The Emo amps have about as much finnesse as the recent trolls that have invaded.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    Don't really disagree with you a_m,

    Emo amps occupy a place in the market. They're a direct buy company and their equipment is probably better than the price point they sell at. Any more claims than that is where you get your debates. I would assume that they are some sort of reverse engineering design--that copies/adds to some other original design. But that's just a guess.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The Emo amps have about as much finnesse as the recent trolls that have invaded.

    Maybe a little more... The 125wpc amp DID sound better than a 40wpc AVR.
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    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited April 2009
    You guys are such haters... Emotiva rawks:

    Emotiva Official Site

    :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2009
    I know for a fact that several Club Polk members were reverse engineered.

    RT1
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Don't really disagree with you a_m,

    Emo amps occupy a place in the market. They're a direct buy company and their equipment is probably better than the price point they sell at. Any more claims than that is where you get your debates. I would assume that they are some sort of reverse engineering design--that copies/adds to some other original design. But that's just a guess.

    cnh

    Yea. An EMO amp might be good for this guy.. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81904 since he has underpowered LSI's and isn't interested in spending a ton of $. As long as he doesn't get infected with the never ending quest for better sound that most of us have he will be ok and notice an improvement over the AVR.
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    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2009
    I also like to post here just like you people to get my post counts numbers up....hell, it's great if you are trying to reach 25 post for classified limit this thread reaches that in a matter of few hours....

    +1 post for me
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited April 2009
    With that review tucked tightly in their belt, right next to all the others from Audioholics, I wonder if Emotiva are finally going to address their problem with poor Customer Service. I mean: are they at least going to take that call from Shack when he wants to let them know that he will not be ordering a UPA-2 from them? It's not rocket science, if you ask me (and even if you don't ask me, 'coz what the hell do I know about rocket science?!), and they should at least have the decency to send him an automated e-mail detailing his lack of order status without tracking numbers. Could it be that hard to do?!
    Alea jacta est!
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