IsoClean Audio Grade Fuses

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2009
    Audio grade fuses are constucted with lower noise, higher conductivity materials and better vibration damping.

    So then it would be logical to assume that one could hear their partner's moaning better when vibration of a given device is decreased or would the lack of vibration cause the amplitude of the moaning to decrease resulting in apparent clarity albiet a lower gain???

    Ying or Yang thang.

    RT1---Tip of the Day

    When playing in a large church it is best to ensure the presence of an appropriate organ.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    Sounds like a good experiment to try. Thanks for the suggestion.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited April 2009
    How about some audiofile grade fuse receptacles? Please feed my laziness...
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2009
    Nice write up Doc. I still have an old bottle of "Tweak" laying around.
  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited August 2010
    Of course, your system will sound much better if you use a Audiophile Quality Credit Card
    to buy your tweaks with. Makes all the difference.
    cristo

    NAD C 545BEE cd player, Philips AF877 turntable / Shure V15V-MR with JICO SAS stylus,
    Tascam 122 mkIII cassette deck, Harman Kardon 3480 receiver, Terk FM-50 antenna in the attic,
    Soundcraftsmen SE550 stereo equalizer, Polk Monitor 10a speakers
    (with Sonicraft/Solen/Mills crossover rebuild)
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited August 2010
    :rolleyes:....:rolleyes:

    Much to learn, rookie. Much to learn.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited August 2010
    Actually, its better if you slow boil them in distilled water.;)

    I get better results with deionized water. Fewer impurities to contaminate my snake oil, donchaknow?
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited August 2010
    cristo wrote: »
    Of course, your system will sound much better if you use a Audiophile Quality Credit Card
    to buy your tweaks with. Makes all the difference.

    Way to go there genius, necro-posting in an old thread stirring the pot! Seem most of your posts so far have been to stir things up.

    Hats off to you. :rolleyes:
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • sm88
    sm88 Posts: 353
    edited August 2010
    e: Nevermind, didn't notice thread was necro'd.. scoundrels!
    Current System:
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    Conrad Johnson MF2500
    Wyred4Sound DAC2
    Audioquest Black Mamba II


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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited August 2010
    cristo wrote: »
    Of course, your system will sound much better if you use a Audiophile Quality Credit Card
    to buy your tweaks with. Makes all the difference.
    lol, i know what you mean :rolleyes:

    EDIT: dammit who dug this thread out of the grave!
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited August 2010
    Tweaks are cumulative.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited August 2010
    anonymouse wrote: »
    I have to wonder about DQ though. I love his threads. Always well presented, formatted and convincing. But if each of these tweaks he has completed makes the soundstage wider and deeper, and the bass punchier, I'd have to imagine that his soundstage must extend across half the state of TX by now. :)
    Not saying there is not marginal value from each tweak, (I've done most of the SDA ones), but the differences are very subtle.



    When did DK become DQ??:confused:
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited August 2010
    cristo wrote: »
    Of course, your system will sound much better if you use a Audiophile Quality Credit Card
    to buy your tweaks with. Makes all the difference.


    Just another POS in the wall...:rolleyes:
  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited August 2010
    Sorry, I'll try to avoid posting troll-like comments and endeavor to express my opinions
    in a more constructive manner in the future.
    cristo

    NAD C 545BEE cd player, Philips AF877 turntable / Shure V15V-MR with JICO SAS stylus,
    Tascam 122 mkIII cassette deck, Harman Kardon 3480 receiver, Terk FM-50 antenna in the attic,
    Soundcraftsmen SE550 stereo equalizer, Polk Monitor 10a speakers
    (with Sonicraft/Solen/Mills crossover rebuild)
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2010
    cristo wrote: »
    Sorry, I'll try to avoid posting troll-like comments and endeavor to express my opinions
    in a more constructive manner in the future.

    Good luck with that approach.

    If you don't agree with his posts you are a troll and will be called many names.

    No negative comments or EE equations or common sense are to be discussed with any DK post.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2010
    bikezappa wrote: »
    Good luck with that approach.

    If you don't agree with his posts you are a troll and will be called many names.

    No negative comments or EE equations or common sense are to be discussed with any DK post.


    Hey Bike, it's ALL in the approach and the way you put words on the screen. It just seems people like cristo, who come on so strong and negative in their very first posts, end up being trolls. No offense to cristo or anyone else that blows in here and starts questioning long time members who have put in the time to atleast try and be objective in this hobby.

    People who want to contribute will get the lay of the land so to speak and then perhaps introduce themselves and a little background about why they are in this hobby and then perhaps an intelligent, well thought out counter arguement.

    Just an observation and a somewhat true generalization.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited August 2010
    anonymouse wrote: »
    I have to wonder about DQ though.


    I know right? I've been wanting to try one of their pecan buster parfaits for a while now! :p
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,055
    edited August 2010
    You know, for 30.00 a fuse, this is actually a small investment I may actually try. Worst case scenario - I have new fuses in a 16 year old amp. As far as DQ goes - I like the Dilly Bars myself.
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Hey Bike, it's ALL in the approach and the way you put words on the screen. It just seems people like cristo, who come on so strong and negative in their very first posts, end up being trolls. No offense to cristo or anyone else that blows in here and starts questioning long time members who have put in the time to atleast try and be objective in this hobby.

    People who want to contribute will get the lay of the land so to speak and then perhaps introduce themselves and a little background about why they are in this hobby and then perhaps an intelligent, well thought out counter arguement.

    Just an observation and a somewhat true generalization.

    H9

    Thanks for the fair response.

    Many long time members here have helped many people, me included, improve their music system.

    Some of the claims made by DK, fuses, alternating current/voltage and line cords, however contradict basic electrical engineering.
  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited August 2010
    bikezappa wrote: »
    Some of the claims made by DK, fuses, alternating current/voltage and line cords, however contradict basic electrical engineering.


    lol, reminds me of an old line. "You can always tell an engineer...........but you can't tell him much.

    :D:p:D

    Oreo Blizzard FTW!
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    When every tweak is positive and results in something better than expected, I stop reading. I stopped reading thoroughly a year+ ago as I don't subscribe to most of it.

    However, I believe DK really puts forth a tremendous effort in what he does. Club Polk is a safer place to do these things then anywhere else as it's highly volatile on other forums for all of these subjects.

    Believe, or don't believe what you read in these reviews but you have to admit that he puts more effort than I've seen from anyone in a long time, across dozens of forums and dozens of subjects. I certainly don't have the patience to write about my experiences with these same things nor care at all to write about them. I firmly believe his approach is as pragmatic and scientific as he feels he can get. He's also not selling anything directly and what you read has to be at face value and based on what you know personally from experience in the field.

    I hope that he continues to do what he does, regardless of those who agree or not, as it's if anything a valuable resource to read and make your own decision, which I believe is his core idea.

    Oh and BTW, I use these fuses in my boutique CTC BBQ amplifier. Why? Who cares.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited August 2010
    ^^^+1^^^
    ..... ><////(*>
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited August 2010
    bikezappa wrote: »
    Good luck with that approach.

    If you don't agree with his posts you are a troll and will be called many names.

    No negative comments or EE equations or common sense are to be discussed with any DK post.

    Oh, you can discuss all those things. You just have to, you know, have at least a vague clue of what you're talking about rather than spouting random noise.
    Turntable: Empire 208
    Arm: Rega 300
    Cart: Shelter 501 III
    Phono Pre: Aural Thrills
    Digital: Pioneer DV-79ai
    Pre: Conrad Johnson ET3 SE
    Amp: Conrad Johnson Evolution 2000
    Cables: Cardas Neutral Reference
    Speakers: SDA 2.3TL, heavily modified
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2010
    Tweaks are cumulative.

    I think it is obvious to most people who have been reading me for a while that the tweaks I have introduced into my audio and video systems generally fall into two main areas:
    1. Vibration abatement.
    2. Power infrastructure.


    As Joe so succinctly put it: "Tweaks are cumulative."

    In the vibration abatement area I started with simple metal cones and then moved to more sophisticated carbon fiber cone and puck type devices (Black Diamond Racing). From there I started using Mortite speaker seals and Dynamat Xtreme driver basket insulation. My vibration abatement efforts culminated in custom steel retaining rings and brackets for my speaker drivers, passive radiators and tweeters.

    In the power infrastructure area I started with a single dedicated AC circuit for each of my audio or audio/video systems. Then I tried basic audio grade power cords, then moved to higher performance audio grade power cords, then to audio grade fuses, then multiple dedicated AC lines for my two channel audio and home theater systems, then AC regenerators, then passive in-wall power conditioners.

    Adjunct to the power line noise reduction tweaks were my efforts in reducing noise in the signal path:

    1. Low noise speaker cables.
    2. Low noise XLR interconnects.
    3. True balanced design components.
    4. Speaker crossover upgrades.
    5. High current, heavily shielded custom AI-1 non-common ground interface.
    6. High quality, high resolution, low noise source components and amplification.

    Therefore, it is not as if I have been trying magic pebbles one day and then magic clocks the next. I have followed a linear progression, over a number of years, of complimentary tweaks in two important foundational areas of audio and video reproduction: power line noise reduction and mechanical noise reduction.

    An important fact to consider is that, not only are the tweaks within areas of mechanical noise reduction and electrical noise reduction highly complimentary, but the two areas themselves are highly complimentary of each other in that they both focus on the reduction of noise, which results in an increase in audio signal quality.

    Will someone else experience the degree of tweak benefits I hear every day in my system? Maybe, maybe not. I'd say probably not...because most people have not been on the same noise reduction path that I have diligently followed for the last few years. For example, Larry's ingenious steel retaining rings and brackets made a substantial difference in my two channel system resolution. However, the rings came after a continuous years-long progression in mechanical and electrical noise reduction.

    So that the reader can place my results in the proper synergistic perspective, I take care to describe my associated equipment, reference music and the tweaks that came before.

    If I hear a competitive body builder raving about the results he achieved from a particular dietary supplement, then I try it and it does little to nothing for me, I don't write him off as delusional. Maybe the supplement would have worked for me if I had tried it after spending years rigorously managing my diet and hours per day for years working out in the gym.

    It would be highly unrealistic of me to implement some performance tweak in my truck and expect the same benefits as someone with the same make and model truck as mine...yet who has spent several years and many thousands of dollars hotrodding his truck to near perfection.

    Has everything been absolutely stellar and rosy and full of warm fuzzy feelings and hugs and kisses along the way? Of course not. Sorry if I gave that impression. For reference and perspective, the very first post in this thread contains this comment:
    Figure 3. Real snake oil. I keep this as a solemn reminder that not all tweaks are good tweaks.

    Some other random disappointments:
    I did not want to go through another "soak" cycle,.... The C-P3 was returned to the vendor.
    MultiWave caused a slight veiling of the overall sound when used in my home theater and audio systems. Some people had the opposite result and love it. They say it makes their system sound more like a tube amplified system. Ok.
    I heard an improvement when I replaced the power supply's stock power cord with a Signal Cable MagicPower cord. I did not hear a difference or improvement when I replaced the MagicPower cord ($74-10AWG copper) with a much higher quality PS Audio xStream Premier SC power cord ($1,394-7AWG silver/copper).

    I have a generally optimistic outlook on life and I tend to focus on, and write about, the things that I liked and that worked well, rather than the things I didn't like and that didn't work well. I prefer to let the naysayers and audio scoffers handle the latter.;)
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    Whatever.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited August 2010
    I enjoy reading DK's tweek reviews. Many of which I have done or considered doing.
    I've stayed away from tweeking for a long time but finally got the bug on speaker wire a few years ago. Major improvement and that alone has put me on a path to a cleaner and fuller sound the past few years.
    I've gone full boat on cables, dampening, strengthening cabinets, crossover upgrades, etc.
    One thing that has been particularly interesting to me is that I now judge the tweeks when I change out a component and don't have the tweeks in place.
    I change audio gear out weekly at least. Sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. That's when I notice the "Lack of Tweeks" in my system. I get to go back and re-tweek one step at a time and re-evaluate each one.
    I've found out I can NOT live without isolation dampers, good cables, and quality speaker wires. When possible I use a quality power cord from my Power conditioner which I will always have in my system now.
    Spikes on some of my speakers enhance or improve the cabinet sonics. Others are not noticable or even in some cases a step backwards as many tweeks are.
    IF you're not sure of spending a few bucks and finding out for yourself then I feel like you're missing out on a lot of sound quality you'll never know exists. That's my albatross in itself. I've heard the difference in the tweeks and can't go back.
    I surprise myself on a regular basis with upgrades and tweeks. I use a quality CD for most of my initial testing/listening that I'm all too familiar with. I know ever note on 5 of the songs that give me a very good range and details of different instruments and vocals I like to hear.
    Don't knock 'em 'til ya try 'em. They won't always be a step in the right direction but you'll understand more of all the tweekin', rolling, and characteristics of your system.
    I appreciate the tweeks the most when they're not there.
  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited August 2010
    I wondered that at first too, Anonymouse? But, I think he might have been posting at the same time as DK - and he was actually posting to Quadzilla's comment. I can't speak for anyone though?
    ..... ><////(*>
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2010

    Has everything been absolutely stellar and rosy and full of warm fuzzy feelings and hugs and kisses along the way? Of course not. Sorry if I gave that impression. For reference and perspective, the very first post in this thread contains this comment:
    Figure 3. Real snake oil. I keep this as a solemn reminder that not all tweaks are good tweaks.

    Some other random disappointments:
    I did not want to go through another "soak" cycle,... The C-P3 was returned to the vendor.
    MultiWave caused a slight veiling of the overall sound when used in my home theater and audio systems. Some people had the opposite result and love it. They say it makes their system sound more like a tube amplified system.
    I heard an improvement when I replaced the power supply's stock power cord with a Signal Cable MagicPower cord. I did not hear a difference or improvement when I replaced the MagicPower cord ($74-10AWG copper) with a much higher quality PS Audio xStream Premier SC power cord ($1,394-7AWG silver/copper).

    I have a generally optimistic outlook on life and I tend to focus on, and write about, the things that I liked and that worked well, rather than the things I didn't like and that didn't work well. I prefer to let the naysayers and audio scoffers handle the latter.;)

    While random thoughts of disappointing audio tweaks were circulating in my mind, a few more came to mind. There are others...some documented on this and other forums and many quietly kept in my notebooks.
    Unfortunately, I fell into the number of vinylists for whom the Verus motor was incompatible with my analog setup. Fortunately, Teres has a no-hassle return policy:

    "We have a no time limit full refund policy so trying out a Verus motor is a low risk proposition. We are encouraging Teres customers to keep their existing motor for a week or two so that they can do side by side comparisons."
    I use the Monoprice HDMI 1.3 cables in my home theater rig. I still have yet to see a performance difference in HDMI cables in my home theater system. Here is a link to an HDMI cable comparison I did a couple months ago: Tweaking Home Theater Pt. 4.
    I rewired one speaker with heavier gauge speaker wire, but I didn't hear a difference, therefore I went back to the stock wire.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    It's ok DK, don't get all defensive. It doesn't change my opinion, maybe you should write a book. I don't usually post my reviews and evaluations on audio equipment, tweaks and etc. You do, so you choose to be scrutinized. I wasn't aware every comment was supposed to be glowing and super duper positive. I believe I've derailed your thread enough, not intentionally at this juncture but rock on with your fuses....so am I.

    Yes, we posted at close to the same time as I didn't even read it until later. No big deal. I'll always support what Raife does, just not some of his conclusions. Simple, not rocket science.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2010
    Mark,

    I would not waste my time trying to change your "opinion" as it has no effect whatsoever on my enjoyment of audio in particular or on my life in general.

    Nothing I write here is for the purpose of changing anyone's mind. I have other professional avenues of expression for that purpose, most of which I get paid for.

    It was your right to express your opinion just as it was my right to clarify a misconception with facts.

    Carry on.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!