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Best movie ever^
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Bork? WTF?
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Love those gas prices.
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I love those gas prices. Better?
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man, this thread's taken a tern for the wurst... umm... I mean...
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Now it's going bad!
The good old days? 
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... in case you might want to render yourself invisible (to deep neural networks, at least)...
https://news.northeastern.edu/2019/11/13/this-t-shirt-could-make-you-invisible-to-deep-neural-networks/?utm_source=News@Northeastern&utm_campaign=da86fb6608-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_11_15_02_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_508ab516a3-da86fb6608-278508341
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Yes I have to admit, I looked up the word osculate! Every day I learn something new on CP!
Now where's the Mrs? Honey can I have an osculation? Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
Every day I learn something new on CP!
Maybe some day you'll learn what "CP" normally stands for.
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Question. I've seen many brands of tubes mentioned on CP. Never seen this brand. Was this a company that just re-branded other mfg. tubes and sold them under their company name?
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aprazer402 wrote: »Question. I've seen many brands of tubes mentioned on CP. Never seen this brand. Was this a company that just re-branded other mfg. tubes and sold them under their company name?
Because they're most likely rebrands. Sometimes, the rebrands were excellent tubes, usually not, though.
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Thanks, that was my first guess. Did a little browsing. Several similar companies existed in the past. Some obtained seconds, washed off the original brand and put on their own. Back in the day, In NJ, "obtained" may be a correct word choice.
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aprazer402 wrote: »Thanks, that was my first guess. Did a little browsing. Several similar companies existed in the past. Some obtained seconds, washed off the original brand and put on their own. Back in the day, In NJ, "obtained" may be a correct word choice.
Not exactly some of the big tube companies made tube for others. You need to look at tube codes, it may say "realistic" or "Rogers" etc but the tube code number will absolutely tell you who manufactured the tube. 322= Tung-Sol 188= GE 337= Westinghouse etc.etc. then look at the internal structure of tube some are dead giveaways. type of getter and other things.
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aprazer402 wrote: »Thanks, that was my first guess. Did a little browsing. Several similar companies existed in the past. Some obtained seconds, washed off the original brand and put on their own. Back in the day, In NJ, "obtained" may be a correct word choice.
Not exactly some of the big tube companies made tube for others. You need to look at tube codes, it may say "realistic" or "Rogers" etc but the tube code number will absolutely tell you who manufactured the tube. 322= Tung-Sol 188= GE 337= Westinghouse etc.etc. then look at the internal structure of tube some are dead giveaways. type of getter and other things.
Rad-Tel never made tubes
I agree Rad-Tel never made tubes of their own. I had just read that some tube companies like Rad-Tel, back in the 40-50's bought tubes, either seconds or not, and some removed (washed off) the orig. mfg. name and re-branded them themselves. Rather than GE, RCA, Westinghouse... selling their own tubes, rebranded i.e.: labeled Realistic to Radio Shack... -
yes, all sorts of skulduggery in the electronics 'aftermarket', then as now.
The funny thing is, the off-brands can work both ways. One of the local gurus told of picking up some NOS, NIB "International Servicemaster" branded 2A3s for chump change... in the box? Rebranded RCAs.
(random, borrowed image for illustrative purposes only)
As to the EIA manufacturer numbers (which should indeed be on proper "OEM" Amurrican tubes, but will be lost on "washed"* tubes), an EIA code list is invaluable (which is not a synonym for worthless
) when playin' the vintage hifi game.
Here's the best one that I know of. In case any of you weren't aware of this/these.
http://www.audiophool.com/Misc/EIAcodes1961.pdf
Here's a nice little primer in the realm of speaker (driver) codes, too, while I am at it.
https://www.tedweber.com/speaker-codes-application/
sorry for the digression
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* Some tube manufacturers used 'delicate' print on their tubes so that unscrupulous repairpersonages couldn't just take an old, pulled tube ('plinker') and clean it up with water or Windex, then sell it as new to an unsuspecting customer. Those of us who rehab decades-old, grungy vacuum tube hardware have learned to clean such tubes very gently indeed.
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"Legitimate" rebranded tubes were often labeled with the brand name of the component in which they were installed (e.g., Airline, Silvertone, Magnavox, harman/kardon, Fisher, etc.). Some companies played on both sides of the fence (Zenith, Sylvania, and, of course, RCA and GE, e.g.).
It was also not particularly uncommon to see rebranded tubes branded with the names of 'big' tube manufacturers -- especially late in the tube era. For example, I have "RCA" branded 6922s that are clearly labeled "Made in Holland" -- and not made by RCA in Holland
Here's a 'rebrand' --- these gorgeous (yes, I am biased) "Westinghouse" 5692s are RCAs.
Westies closeup by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
(borrowed image, of course!)
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Sabreliner Move by Baltimore Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport, on Flickr
I enjoyed these photos, from BWI (Baltimore-Washington/Thurgood Marshall International Airport) on Flikr... they moved an old Sabreliner jet from the airport (or nearby, maybe from Northrop-Grumman, the old Westinghouse) to the nearby Electronics Museum (a place I wouldn't mind seeing someday)...
here's the 'album' from which the photo above was borrowed:
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These are another nice rebrand.
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Old and new NSX. Drool.
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
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mhardy6647 wrote: »yes, all sorts of skulduggery in the electronics 'aftermarket', then as now.
The funny thing is, the off-brands can work both ways. One of the local gurus told of picking up some NOS, NIB "International Servicemaster" branded 2A3s for chump change... in the box? Rebranded RCAs.
(random, borrowed image for illustrative purposes only)
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Mullard made some for servicemaster as well
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Wow. This thing works.
Amazing.
Here's my three word review of the Audioquest Niagara 1200:
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Yep^
All you naysayers out there, AQ power is legit **** -
Walter got a new outfit today!
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
I finished! Kind of...
Built the upper, lower, and installed traditional shiplap. Painted the walls today. Just need hooks. Then I start framing for my 1,200sqft basement. Yay!Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
