Documenting: My SDA-1c upgrades from start to finish
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It only takes one maybe two light coats. Should not add any more mass than what an RD0 has added.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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@Gardenstater
Here's it alone.
I included more of the song, so the sound of the kid's voices would show more..
- It would be fuller if I had another 5B plugged in on the right, instead of it pushing 1 channel solo.
- The guitar solo sounds like I expect.
- Sound is darker than the 12. 3 fewer mw, an original crossover, and no cabinet/basket mods = yeah. And it can't compete with the presence of a 12 and up on the ladder.
- The pudding lyric is only on the right side. Kinda wigged me out not hearing it on this recording. Thought I was lising my mind.
https://youtu.be/MlDP_dvPr_I
But the key but here is:
Pros of my Wuhan experience so far:
- The tweeter works.
- The doping smoothes out the sound, it's not as brittle.
- The tweeter sounds better than a 2000.
- The tweeter mod for 4 speakers is about 25-30% the cost of getting the 194.
- Satisfaction that I did the basics, and way more than required, on my own.
- Gratitude for the friends that jumped in to help and/or advise.
- All the new things I learned.
Negatives of my Wuhan experience, to date:
- TIME!
- Fear of trying it.
- Equipment to replace or modify tweeter plates.
- Not knowing, yet, how it will sound in the 1C.
- Not knowing how it sounds compared to a 194.
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Not bad at all considering. It sounded like it wasn't in mono.
So there is no:
Dynamat/Noico/other on the exterior of baskets for MW and PR
Armacell or other on the interior of basket for MW
Semi - rings made of steel for top 2 and bottom 2 screws of MW
BH5 square or other behind the MW
Upgrade to XO components
Upgrade to internal wiring and Binding Posts
Anti Diffraction Wool for tweeter
8 Hole Mod for better coupling of MW to baffle
This little guy will make a perfect test bed to add each of those one at a time. Good times.George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
Well, let's see if this works.
Loaded a few videos to youtube to see if I can post...
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@skipshot12
Wow. Huge difference.
And your fitting and painting work is awesome.
Yours is all new Range Rover sleek, and mine is all prototype Jeep [laughs].The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
Ok, let's see if we can add some of the damping videos...
https://youtube.com/shorts/8DHfbtiyg7w?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/aCkwymRYR_0?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/q1v7wH4dLYc?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/jjNi59DoeQY?feature=share
Still not doing something right. Have to go to youtube to watch.
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plastic_avatar wrote: »@skipshot12
Wow. Huge difference.
And your fitting and painting work is awesome.
Yours is all new Range Rover sleek, and mine is all prototype Jeep [laughs].
Bahahaaaa....
I'm anal to a fault!
Even raking leaves yesterday I was going back to pick up two leaves I didn't get into the garbage bag. The wife says you don't need to pick up every last one! My answer, yes I do. Dang it... now I can sleep tonight. -
@Gardenstater
The tweeter does have my diffuser 'dome' with the ring of heavy wool and then the soft lamb's wool in the middle. That and the custom plate are non-standard.
I didn't use the 'backer' gasket between the dome base and metal plate. I used glue for an air-tight seal.
On the ones for the 1C, I used backers. I need to compare to the 5B one to decide if i'll rip 'em out or let them stay.
And the mw has my printed version of xschop's phase plug.
Everything is as you say.
Definite plans for the 5B while I wait to order and receive 1C coils (Jeezus, by Christmas, I hope):
- phase plugs
- rings
- dyna/foam the baskets
- Hurricane nuts/bolts
- foam gaskets
- terminals
- XO
Will likely do, but maybe after I finished up the 1C:
- BH5
- internal front face brace
- wiring
- fix the finish on the cabinets in a few places
- new grille cloth
- spikes
- external wool tweeter diffraction killer
- stands
These will look awesome with that Realistic stereo, if I ever have room, but... honestly... I think I'm a **** to big watts now. I can't believe the difference between the dedicated amp and my receivers/integrateds.
So, now this is a combo:
Documenting the upgrades to my 1C and 5B, from start to finish.
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How I learned to stop worrying and love the mod.The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
lol @ How I Iearned to stop worrying and love the mod. I think this earns you the nickname of Dr. Strangemod ha ha
I have been following the tweeter mods with interest. I just didn't comment because I actually didn't know what the effect would be of the diffuser and didn't want to pretend I did. That's what makes this fun. Now. We need to print up a back plate of 1/4 wavelength absorbers/maze like the KEF Metamaterial and bore a hole through pole piece to it. Might be violating a patent I don't know lol.George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
OMG
Doctor Strangemod
I love it.
And no idea if the little diffuser dome I made is worth the effort, but the tweeter sounds pretty good to me.
Probably totally inadequate compared to chop's drilled pole piece+lamb's wool mod.
That's a mod I want to hear.
The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
I’ll second Dr. Strangemod….
Made me raff.
George, you have a nickname that you’ll have to splain to friends outside of this forum. -
Surprise equipment upgrade!

Underneath that Aldi bag is a Yamaha p2250.
It will run mono with my existing p2250.
WATTS!!!! I haz much watts!!!!
I'm excited.
$100 + $60 in gas + 6 hours of my time + beautiful Fall colors and a surprisingly pleasant drive through Ohio = TOTALLY WORTH IT! Woot!
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How do you plan on using those 2 amps with your SDA 1C's?
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He is going to use them for his Monitor 12sGeorge / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
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Oh well...thought that would help put those poor ruined speakers out of their misery
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For now, I was looking forward to pumping all that into my 12's. Sorry. Was very excited about it

And I like having a backup since I'm selling my AX-596.
But since we're talking about it, couldn't I build a Dread if I wanted to try the 1C in that configuration?
Orrrrr, in a strange twist, could I mod the 1C to bi-amp? And how would you split that up correctly..
Annnd, also, at the very least, in a year or so, if I want, I can sell these for more than the $460 invested (that includes gas to go get them). Then I get something new
The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
Well, new future daydreams of a Dread'ed 1C running the p2250 in bridged mode are dashed. I have to play with the bridged amps on the Monitor 12 only.
6 ohms. Boo. Needs to be 8 for these amps.
So, I'll still get to play with more power on the Monitors, but I'll have to sell the pair to upgrade if I want more than what the p2250 gives me on the SDA. And that's cool, because if I do that I can look at amps in the $800 range.
Or the hacksaw to bi-amp is something that might be fun
The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
FYI, while bridging an amp results in higher power it also results in a higher noise floor. Best to avoid bridging.
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@F1nut
I thought seeing the difference in impact/dynamism would be worth the test. My 1st p2250 is dead quiet in the silences.
I was so impressed going up from my previous integrated, I figured the extra oomph would be noticeable.
You think the added noise will be enough of a negative to cancel out the other potential gains?
Looking ahead, what did/do you use to drive SDAs?
New sub-topic to my main thread is now:
'For my 1C: What amps around $800 would be worth upgrading to? Amps that would do more than the p2250?'
Then, after the new year, I can decide whether to keep what I have or upgrade
I am totally going to hook the Monitors up to the bridged amps to see what it does, though. I have to.!It's the closest I've ever gotten to power that is out of my price league
And otherwise, the 2nd amp will just sit there until the 1C are finished... The Thrifty Setups in Mah House Big thrifty stereo in the basement w/ my custom SDA-1C (built with help from kind forum members) * Beautiful 1966 MCM GE console upgraded w/ Bluetooth, Dual turntable, and Paradigm speakers in family room * Swanky 1980 Realistic system and great TEAC eq with dancing colored lights in the living room * custom 5B on a system for my Dad * Ye Olde college stereo in the garage -
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Pro amps, while providing high wpc power, are not noted for their high fidelity and fidelity is what most are trying to obtain. Your goal may be different.
A high current amp matters more than a high power amp.
The noise floor is evident while music is playing. The sound has less clarity, is strident and fatiguing, especially at higher volume levels.
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Not to mention bridged amps see half the impedance of the speaker load, so I believe the 1C is 6ohm in bridged mode your amps will be dealing with 3ohm load.
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What F1 said and I’ll add to that,
Although the wattage output is increased by a ****-pot the current capability is compromised.
The reason why they suggest no loads below 8 ohms.
8 & above ok.
It’s best to go with high current amps even if the watts isn’t of the same value… to a point.
I’ve never understood the reason of why to bridge an amp.
If someone can explain the benefits I’d appreciate it.
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Bridging allows for higher sound pressure levels, but that's about it.
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Okay but, I have a question regarding that…
How does one bet higher sp without current?
Only way that can happen is with easy to drive speakers yes?
Doesn’t that eliminate speakers of 4 ohms & less?



