Cary SLP-05 in Verb's House!

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  • verb wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Man, first thing, get rid of those stock tubes. I've never heard one of those that I liked. I had problems with the AE pre (Cary) and it was a bad tube. I think they're junk.

    Kerry my man the first thing is to get it up and running again! :) The Electro Harmonix is a set of known good tubes, an extra set from Dhavel, so I can rule that out. I had Sophia Electrics in there previously.

    Next step is to get a known good rectifier tube. Thanks again to @GlennDog as he and I will connect tomorrow. I've also got another one coming from Tube Amp Doctors.

    Then, if all is well, I've certainly been looking for some better tubes to roll into it! :)

    If you trouble shoot the issue, and then roll in some good quality tubes, would you still look to do the "ultimate" upgrade? I am not so sure if it would make that big of a difference overall. But then, may be it would. Those tubes can be expensive as you would need at least six of them....
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,886
    edited September 29
    I know you want to get it up and figure it out but I'm with Kerry on this one. Chinese and Russian tubes do not stand on the same ground as 40's, 50's and 60's 6sn7 tubes. Our tubes were much better hands down. Raytheon, Sylvania, Tung-Sol, GE, CBS, Hytron and RCA are much superior to anything Russian or Chinese. If you want to run lesser tubes in the headphone side and the better tubes in the better 2 channel circuit that is understandable to keep cost down at first. I think you'll be surprised how much better sound you may get.
    I'll recommend plentiful Sylvania 6sn7gtb chrome domes that can be very reasonable. The Baldwin organ tubes are under the radar.
    My favorites are the earlier gt's and Micanol based 6sn7 wgta's just too many great tubes to be had.

    The 5692's are super smooth and quiet but very pricey. Play your cards right and be patient you can score pairs for about 130.00-150.00. I've scored two pairs that tested as new for less than 100$ a pair
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    jumpindick wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Man, first thing, get rid of those stock tubes. I've never heard one of those that I liked. I had problems with the AE pre (Cary) and it was a bad tube. I think they're junk.

    Kerry my man the first thing is to get it up and running again! :) The Electro Harmonix is a set of known good tubes, an extra set from Dhavel, so I can rule that out. I had Sophia Electrics in there previously.

    Next step is to get a known good rectifier tube. Thanks again to @GlennDog as he and I will connect tomorrow. I've also got another one coming from Tube Amp Doctors.

    Then, if all is well, I've certainly been looking for some better tubes to roll into it! :)

    If you trouble shoot the issue, and then roll in some good quality tubes, would you still look to do the "ultimate" upgrade? I am not so sure if it would make that big of a difference overall. But then, may be it would. Those tubes can be expensive as you would need at least six of them....

    Hey Dhavel - Most likely. For sure if I have to send it in for repair! :)
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    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I know you want to get it up and figure it out but I'm with Kerry on this one. Chinese and Russian tubes do not stand on the same ground as 40's, 50's and 60's 6sn7 tubes. Our tubes were much better hands down. Raytheon, Sylvania, Tung-Sol, GE, CBS, Hytron and RCA are much superior to anything Russian or Chinese. If you want to run lesser tubes in the headphone side and the better tubes in the better 2 channel circuit that is understandable to keep cost down at first. I think you'll be surprised how much better sound you may get.
    I'll recommend plentiful Sylvania 6sn7gtb chrome domes that can be very reasonable. The Baldwin organ tubes are under the radar.
    My favorites are the earlier gt's and Micanol based 6sn7 wgta's just too many great tubes to be had.

    The 5692's are super smooth and quiet but very pricey. Play your cards right and be patient you can score pairs for about 130.00-150.00. I've scored two pairs that tested as new for less than 100$ a pair

    Hey Ivan - I too am with Kerry! Patience is the key, and one step at a time! The Sophia Electrics were, well, the only 6SN7 tubes I've ever known. Once up and running, as always I'll seek advice from my friends here.

    And maybe, just maybe, my dear friend @GlennDog just may want to part with some of his stash! :)
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    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,410
    Check the socket pins on all of the tube sockets. That was one of the problems I had.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Check the socket pins on all of the tube sockets. That was one of the problems I had.

    Thanks Kerry! Will do!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    So today, I received a new rectifier tube from a company called Tube Amp Doctors. Never heard of em before, but they're based out of Germany, and they claim this tube was actually manufactured in Germany.

    Price was right, so I snagged it.

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    Anyone have experience with this company? Like I said, never heard of em, or them mentioned here on CP.
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    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    edited September 30
    Ok here comes the moment of truth. If this fails, well, then you know. :cry:

    Popped this baby in, replaced yet another fuse (#6), powered it on. So far so good. Now turn the pre-amp on. This baby glows!

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    Ok, the meters on the power supply are working. Waiting for the ready light to turn red on the pre-amp. Tick tick tick. :)

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    She lives! Ready light came on! Woo Hoo! :)

    I'm gonna let it run for a while, put it through some power on/off cycles, before I button it up. But, whew, what drama! :smile: Not over yet, but so far so good! :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    edited September 30
    As a side note, Cary service e-mailed me today cause it's been a week since we last connected. Talk about customer service! :) Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to give them a good report!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • It is interesting to find the rectifier tube that "loose". Especially if the preamp is stagnant in one place, how would the tube be that loose... Anyhow, seems that you might just have found the solution. Enjoy.
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    jumpindick wrote: »
    It is interesting to find the rectifier tube that "loose". Especially if the preamp is stagnant in one place, how would the tube be that loose... Anyhow, seems that you might just have found the solution. Enjoy.

    Thanks Dhavel! :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 651
    Glad you have it back in working order. Such a horrible feeling when you blow a fuse,...then another....then another! Now, you can plan the ultimate upgrade on your own terms.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,886
    Man that is a massive R-core transformer.
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Man that is a massive R-core transformer.

    Ok Ivan, getting my read on. R-Core transformers! :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,410
    Glad it worked out for you, my customer experience with Cary wasn't nearly as good. Now, to start tube rolling.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,073
    edited September 30
    I’m glad it was such an easy fix. 👍🏼
    But just like fuses, it’s always best to have a couple spare tubes on hand… It’s nice to have 20/20 hindsight. Isn’t it? 😆
    jumpindick wrote: »
    If you trouble shoot the issue, and then roll in some good quality tubes, would you still look to do the "ultimate" upgrade? I am not so sure if it would make that big of a difference overall. But then, may be it would. Those tubes can be expensive as you would need at least six of them....

    I’m no Cary expert, but if you’re using balanced/XLR cables out to your amp, you only need 2 nice NOS tubes in position #3 & 6

    Positions #1, 2, 4 & 5 would be for tubes and RCA connections

    Dave, try to get your hands on some NOS Ken Rads. They’ll deliver bass in spades!

    Edit: with that said, Joey do you still have those Popes? I’ll put them to good use, I promise. PM me if you have any interest in parting with them
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I’m glad it was such an easy fix. 👍🏼
    But just like fuses, it’s always best to have a couple spare tubes on hand… It’s nice to have 20/20 hindsight. Isn’t it? 😆
    jumpindick wrote: »
    If you trouble shoot the issue, and then roll in some good quality tubes, would you still look to do the "ultimate" upgrade? I am not so sure if it would make that big of a difference overall. But then, may be it would. Those tubes can be expensive as you would need at least six of them....

    I’m no Cary expert, but if you’re using balanced/XLR cables out to your amp, you only need 2 nice NOS tubes in position #3 & 6

    Positions #1, 2, 4 & 5 would be for tubes and RCA connections

    Dave, try to get your hands on some NOS Ken Rads. They’ll deliver bass in spades!

    Edit: with that said, Joey do you still have those Popes? I’ll put them to good use, I promise. PM me if you have any interest in parting with them

    Watcha got in that stash of yours, Dog? :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,073
    Just say’n the Popes have a legendary status. I don’t (personally) know if they deliver on that, tho

    and ‘bout any NOS will out-do EH . . . Unfortunately, the NOS tubes are not inexpensive. Worst case scenario you need 4. There’s a few reliable sources out there

    I wouldn’t hesitate recommending Andy or the ”mad Russian” (my nickname)

    http://vintagetubeservices.com/octal-tubes/

    https://www.nostubestore.com/search/label/6SN7GT/6SN7WGT/5692/B65/VT-231
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    GlennDog wrote: »
    Just say’n the Popes have a legendary status. I don’t (personally) know if they deliver on that, tho

    and ‘bout any NOS will out-do EH . . . Unfortunately, the NOS tubes are not inexpensive. Worst case scenario you need 4. There’s a few reliable sources out there

    I wouldn’t hesitate recommending Andy or the ”mad Russian” (my nickname)

    http://vintagetubeservices.com/octal-tubes/

    https://www.nostubestore.com/search/label/6SN7GT/6SN7WGT/5692/B65/VT-231

    Thanks Dog! BTW what are you running currently?
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I know you want to get it up and figure it out but I'm with Kerry on this one. Chinese and Russian tubes do not stand on the same ground as 40's, 50's and 60's 6sn7 tubes. Our tubes were much better hands down. Raytheon, Sylvania, Tung-Sol, GE, CBS, Hytron and RCA are much superior to anything Russian or Chinese. If you want to run lesser tubes in the headphone side and the better tubes in the better 2 channel circuit that is understandable to keep cost down at first. I think you'll be surprised how much better sound you may get.
    I'll recommend plentiful Sylvania 6sn7gtb chrome domes that can be very reasonable. The Baldwin organ tubes are under the radar.
    My favorites are the earlier gt's and Micanol based 6sn7 wgta's just too many great tubes to be had.

    The 5692's are super smooth and quiet but very pricey. Play your cards right and be patient you can score pairs for about 130.00-150.00. I've scored two pairs that tested as new for less than 100$ a pair

    Thanks Ivan! I've looked at the Sylvania, the Baldwin is interesting too. And, yes, fairly inexpensive!

    BTW any spare quads you'd like to part with? :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,886
    Never discount the early GE tubes as they were made in the same plant on the same tooling as the KenRads plant code is 188-5 Kentucky plant. The 188-20 tube code will be New York plant
    Learn your tube and date codes as you can find sleepers that are the same tube but branded differently.
    Get your read on


    KenRad 6SN7GT
    Also JAN-CKR-6SN7GT
    KenRad stood for ‘Kentucky Radio’. KenRad was bought by GE around the mid-1940s and ceased to exist as a brand name by the early 1950s. Military tube boxes from the 1940s are labeled with “KenRad, Division of General Electric Corp”. The construction of this tube is identical to the KenRad VT-231 tube (both clear and black glass).


    VT-231 us just a military inventory code it was never a actual tube designation. It actually just meant Vacuum Tube 231. Likewise JAN tubes are " Joint Army Navy"

    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-6sn7-identification-guide.209782/

    https://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=230932

    Lots out there.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,279
    edited September 30
    I'd keep the Sophia tubes in there because they're just so gorgeous. :blush:

    Glad your flagship preamp is back in business Dave.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,648
    Cool bro, glad she's up and running.

    Still, did you wind up checking those socket pins ? I don't see how a bad tube would blow a fuse. Has to be something creating a short somewhere to keep blowing fuses.

    All the tube gear I've ever had, when a tube goes south it sounds horrible or just doesn't work at all, but never blew a fuse because of it. Could just be the Cary design, I dunno.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    Good point Tony. Before I button her up, I’ll check the socket for sure!
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,886
    tonyb wrote: »
    Cool bro, glad she's up and running.

    Still, did you wind up checking those socket pins ? I don't see how a bad tube would blow a fuse. Has to be something creating a short somewhere to keep blowing fuses.

    If the Rectifier tube developed a short could it not toast fuses? I know when they test tubes they also test for shorts within the tube on some testers. Send Aaron @ALL212 a PM see if his tester can test the tube and if it test's for shorts. I'd find a way to test because I'd want to know if it was the tube then all those thoughts of what if are a little less.

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,083
    GlennDog wrote: »
    Just say’n the Popes have a legendary status. I don’t (personally) know if they deliver on that, tho

    and ‘bout any NOS will out-do EH . . . Unfortunately, the NOS tubes are not inexpensive. Worst case scenario you need 4. There’s a few reliable sources out there

    I wouldn’t hesitate recommending Andy or the ”mad Russian” (my nickname)

    http://vintagetubeservices.com/octal-tubes/

    https://www.nostubestore.com/search/label/6SN7GT/6SN7WGT/5692/B65/VT-231

    Still have the Popes... can't get rid of them as it took me forever to acquire 6 of them.

    Hahaha

    Plus, I am thinking of trying the Cary 05 Ultimate...
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,696
    Joey_V wrote: »
    GlennDog wrote: »
    Just say’n the Popes have a legendary status. I don’t (personally) know if they deliver on that, tho

    and ‘bout any NOS will out-do EH . . . Unfortunately, the NOS tubes are not inexpensive. Worst case scenario you need 4. There’s a few reliable sources out there

    I wouldn’t hesitate recommending Andy or the ”mad Russian” (my nickname)

    http://vintagetubeservices.com/octal-tubes/

    https://www.nostubestore.com/search/label/6SN7GT/6SN7WGT/5692/B65/VT-231

    Still have the Popes... can't get rid of them as it took me forever to acquire 6 of them.

    Hahaha

    Plus, I am thinking of trying the Cary 05 Ultimate...

    I would just need two.

    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800,Kinki Studio EX-M1
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: L.K.S MH-DA004, North Star Design USB dac32, Cayin Venus cd-100i,
    Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI
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    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic 2, Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
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    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    How do the Pope's compare to the Ken-Rad's?
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    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,174
    So today is Day2. Ran the Cary for a few hours last night, went through a couple of power on cycles. After work today, turned it on, and so far so good!

    My level of anxiety is diminishing greatly! :)

    And I responded back to Cary service with the good, but tentative, news!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
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