What did you do to your stereo rig today?
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And the outlets are 20 amp outlets hehe- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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That's cray-cray right there bro'. Photo was too small on the phone to even notice that....but that's even more interesting.
Kind of bass ackwards, eh?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Let's be serious here for a minute. Any 12 or lower gauge cable is 20 amp rated. Yes there may be some mental midgets that try to use a 14 or 16 gauge cable, but hey think of it as a secondary fuse. 😬
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I mean ultimately it is a 15 Amp device, why install 20 amp outlets? For an uninformed user this is kind of misleading.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I mean ultimately it is a 15 Amp device, why install 20 amp outlets? For an uninformed user this is kind of misleading.
Probably because all the better outlets are all 15/20 amp multi use
outlets. 🤷🏻♂️ -
Does PS Audio even make a 15 amp upgraded outlet? I don't recall seeing one.
But still...
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Furman does the same thing on their 15A IT reference. In fact, I think it has the same number of outlets.
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That's an isolated outlet, not a 20 amp outlet.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Those all look like Leviton isolated ground, maybe hospital grade outlets @newbie308
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Yeah those are 15 Amp outlets in the photo- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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^ Bahahaaaa,
15 amp cord why all the outlets.
Clowns... you made me raff. -
Not understanding your posts.
I know of several amps that can draw well over 15 amps from the wall... So to have a conditioner designed to run all of that gear and an amplifier on a single 15 Amp outlet seems pointless to me?- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Doesn't surprise me that they used their own PS Audio Power Port outlets which just happen to be 20 Amp outlets. I have one and it did improve my transient response and bass impact.
So.........just make sure that the sum total of all the equipment you plug in doesn't exceed 15 amps in this case. Maybe they could have put some warning stickers at each outlet. -DO NOT EXCEED 15 AMPS DRAW TOTAL-George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
“Power Filtering” (Shunyata, Niagra, Monster etc.), “Regeneration” (PS Audio) and what I consider the top of the line “Isolation” (Equitech) are different designs/nomenclature in providing cleaner power to your equipment.
In Isolation/regeneration one is limited to the size of the transformer used.
In PS Audio’s approach if one needs unlimited power, at least what the wall outlet can output, they have a strictly filtered outlet.
Looking at the back of the P1000 the outlet at bottom rear is filtered power only, that outlet is restricted to what the wall outlet can provide, not the Toroidal used inside the unit.
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Not understanding your posts.
I know of several amps that can draw well over 15 amps from the wall... So to have a conditioner designed to run all of that gear and an amplifier on a single 15 Amp outlet seems pointless to me?
Just for the sake of discussion. Since W = VA x P.F. , an amplifier with max. 15 A draw from the outlet and a typical 0.58 power factor (that's what it is for my Onkyo A-8017 anyways) would be drawing 1,044 W which would exceed the max output of the P-1000 but only slightly. That would only be happening when the amp was putting out it's maximum rated continuous output and probably would never occur in actual use playing music.George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
Basically, what the P1000 is is a Class AB Transformer.
Along with their P600, P1000, P1200 and the very rare P2000. -
Really is quite the exceptional piece of gear, not only can you adjust the voltage output but also the voltage frequency. And, it makes quite a surge suppressor impression.
An informative read...
https://6moons.com/audioreviews/psaudio2/p1000.html
Not your ordinary power strip filter. -
Gardenstater wrote: »Not understanding your posts.
I know of several amps that can draw well over 15 amps from the wall... So to have a conditioner designed to run all of that gear and an amplifier on a single 15 Amp outlet seems pointless to me?
Just for the sake of discussion. Since W = VA x P.F. , an amplifier with max. 15 A draw from the outlet and a typical 0.58 power factor (that's what it is for my Onkyo A-8017 anyways) would be drawing 1,044 W which would exceed the max output of the P-1000 but only slightly. That would only be happening when the amp was putting out it's maximum rated continuous output and probably would never occur in actual use playing music.
That's why you would have purchased the P1200...
https://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_2/ps-audio-p1200-6-2001.html
Higher power draw amps then go with the P2000, but beware that they were over 200 lbs.
Or go with PS Audio's new approach to power regeneration and grab the P20.
At 3600 watts of peak power it should power your Onkyo amp, at a cost of 10 grand.
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Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/303074/Ps-Audio-Power-Plant-P1000.html#manual
https://www.aspera-audio.com/pdf/manuals/P1200-manual1.pdf
May have been prior to the P1000? -
Apologies on the thread take over, I'll go have some frosty beverages now.....
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skipshot12 wrote: »Apologies on the thread take over, I'll go have some frosty beverages now.....
First beer at 9:30 Mountain time tsk tsk ⌚🍺👌George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
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Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
Perhaps not, but it is additive to what is in your amplifier. In your case it won't make a lot of difference. Circuit Breaker boxes are 0 uf though.George / NJ
Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
Onkyo A-8017 integrated
Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
iFi nano iDSD DAC
iPurifier3
iDefender w/ iPower PS
Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform -
Gardenstater wrote: »skipshot12 wrote: »Apologies on the thread take over, I'll go have some frosty beverages now.....
First beer at 9:30 Mountain time tsk tsk ⌚🍺👌
Bahahaaaa, retirement has its perks big daddy. -
Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
What amplifier do you have?
I need to look inside my WOPL phase linear 700 and see what the power supply capacitance is. It is 500w per side. -
skipshot12 wrote: »Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
What amplifier do you have?
I need to look inside my WOPL phase linear 700 and see what the power supply capacitance is. It is 500w per side.
I have a krell ksa 300s. -
Gardenstater wrote: »Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
Perhaps not, but it is additive to what is in your amplifier. In your case it won't make a lot of difference. Circuit Breaker boxes are 0 uf though.
The p1000 is only rated at 1,000 watts, a 15 amp circuit from the breaker box is actually rated higher at 1440 watts, so how is it additive? -
skipshot12 wrote: »Gardenstater wrote: »^^ Actually doing a little research it turns out the output is 1,000W maximum, which I should've realized from the model name "P1000". Lots of power storage in 16 3,300 uF capacitors I would imagine, to handle short term peak draws. Does it put out more than 1,000W short term because of that? PS Audio has downloads for vintage equipment models, but the one for the P1000 is a link that is not functioning (of course lol).
Doesn't really seem like a lot, my 300 watt amplifier has 272,000 UF.
What amplifier do you have?
I need to look inside my WOPL phase linear 700 and see what the power supply capacitance is. It is 500w per side.
I have a krell ksa 300s.
Nice nice.
