Power distribution and conditioning
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LOL. Just noticed why you mentioned humidity. I agree, I have gotten shocked before, but nothing happening tonight in the static world.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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@verb Yes, you are correct, I believe it is our responsibility to aid the newcomers however we can. As I mentioned, I'm more than happy to have the conversation again. You never know when someone will chime in with something new that I wasn't aware of. I'm more than happy to have that conversation, but, as I also said I took a leap of faith/skepticism and gave it a try believing it would be returned. Same as with the Wireworld cabling, although that would have been sold rather than returned. That was a risk I was willing to assume and I feel I was rewarded.
You know, you could ask "how exactly does a posi trac rear end on a plymouth work?" -
Sorry about that @dragon1952, it looks like our posts crossed in transit. I always enjoy hearing about people's first hand experience, so that's why I reacted negatively to a dismissive "There's probably quite a bit you don't know" type post.dragon1952 wrote: »Ha ha...yeah, I started off with a long, drawn out post myself but decided that those 4 words summed it up pretty well. I've been experimenting with different cables and tweaks of all sorts for 40 plus years and, like anyone else that has can attest, I've come to the conclusion that you can't rely on what might make sense theoretically because we'd be pretty naive to believe that "we" (the experts in any field...take your pick) know all there is to know about how **** works.
You guys got me reconsidering the PS Audio Dectet. I'm going to give PS Audio a call next week and see if they have answers to some questions I have about it.Or, like me, he could buy a conditioner and try it. Even though I deal with various levels and types of electricity every day, I was convinced that I wouldn't hear much, if any, difference and would be utilizing the liberal return policy MD offers. I became a practical believer.dragon1952 wrote: »Not only have I been watching The Punisher, but I've also got a Furman Elite 15PFi....now that's eerie.BTW, I did jump in and got the Furman, and am happy that I did!
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All this power talk
I have my Bryston BIT15 coming in a week... looking forward to it.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
You know, you could ask "how exactly does a posi trac rear end on a plymouth work?"
It doesn't... GM's have posi traction, Mopars have sure grips.
"Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -
It was a trick question! @TNTsTunes you are a veteran thread poster!
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
Just finished Punisher @dragon1952 ! Great show!Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
It doesn't... GM's have posi traction, Mopars have sure grips.
Is a "Detroit locker" where the Lions players keep their helmets and their shouldermapads?
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Just finished Punisher @dragon1952 ! Great show!
Yeah, the wife and I have been going through the whole series of Jessica Jones, Punisher, Daredevil, Iron Fist, etc...not necessarily in the correct order, but they are pretty entertaining overall.2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones -
Sorry about that @dragon1952, it looks like our posts crossed in transit. I always enjoy hearing about people's first hand experience, so that's why I reacted negatively to a dismissive "There's probably quite a bit you don't know" type post.
No worries bro :^ )2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones -
You guys got me reconsidering the PS Audio Dectet. I'm going to give PS Audio a call next week and see if they have answers to some questions I have about it.
That would be a wise choice. As stated before, I have it's bigger brother the quintet, and can't speak more highly of it.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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They're snug enough to make me believe there's very good contact without being a nuisance - you need a firm grip and need to brace the Dectet when removing. But I wouldn't necessarily call it a vise.
The P3 seems to have a slightly firmer grip, which is curious - I thought both units used the same Power Port outlets. It may be my skewed perception or differences in plugs? Not sure.
b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
I'm a little confused at all of Furman's offerings, like Reference vs. Elite and their sub models.
From a strictly 2 channel music standpoint, which Furman is the absolute best for audio? -
I'm a little confused at all of Furman's offerings, like Reference vs. Elite and their sub models.
From a strictly 2 channel music standpoint, which Furman is the absolute best for audio?
I believe the reference.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
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Furman Reference is their TOTL (3X the price) as compared to the Elite.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/mobile/products.asp?dept=295
Found this comparison guide as well:
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage #1: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner
Garage #2: Cambridge Audio EVO150 Integrated Amplifier, Polk L200's, Analysis Plus Silver Oval 2 Speaker Cables, IC's TBD. -
I am going to guess: The one with the highest model number or list price.Which model specifically?
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Ref20iMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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I just had conversations with both AA and PS Audio.
The conclusion is that I will be going with the PS Audio Dectet. -
I'm enjoying the used PS Audio PowerPlay 9000 I got off the 'bay. Hard to do an A/B comparison with my Chang Lightspeed, but I can tell there is certainly no step backwards. From this pic, you can see I'm getting 124V from the wall, and apparently 1.9%THD (not sure how this is calculated), and only 16W total being drawn ATM from my Logitech SBT, Peachtree Audio novaPre, and McCormack DNA-125, at moderate volume. Phono preamp was on as well.
"This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
I just had conversations with both AA and PS Audio.
The conclusion is that I will be going with the PS Audio Dectet.
What is the dectetMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Would that not be 10? So 10 outlets.....
Come on Joey
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What is the dectet
It is the rare occurrence when once every 40 years, the Vietnamese New Year is celebrated in December. -
JerksMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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http://www.psaudio.com/products/dectet-power-center/
With all that knowledge yet the internet is still so foreign -
I just had conversations with both AA and PS Audio.
The conclusion is that I will be going with the PS Audio Dectet.
Good choice....HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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I'm a fan of PS power gear, as well as Shunyata, don't think you can go wrong giving your system the extra love. -
I liked the vibe and attitude I got from the gentleman I spoke with at PS Audio. He was able to answer all of my questions, and was very friendly. His positive attitude is basically what solidified my decision to go with PS Audio. It's remarkable the influence that good vs. poor customer service can have.
After I get the Dectet going, I'll be thinking about possible power cord upgrades. I've heard that upgrading the power cord for your primary source makes the most impact and difference.
Maybe I should make a new thread for some power cord discussions. -
I liked the vibe and attitude I got from the gentleman I spoke with at PS Audio. He was able to answer all of my questions, and was very friendly. His positive attitude is basically what solidified my decision to go with PS Audio. It's remarkable the influence that good vs. poor customer service can have.
After I get the Dectet going, I'll be thinking about possible power cord upgrades. I've heard that upgrading the power cord for your primary source makes the most impact and difference.
Maybe I should make a new thread for some power cord discussions.
Most difference ?? Don't know about that, but I can tell you every cable in the chain will make some difference. Personally, I'd be looking at Speaker cables and IC's before power cords.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Yes, the most difference, versus upgrading the PC on preamp, amp, etc.
I already have WW Eclipse 7 and Equinox 7 ICs and AQ Bedrock SCs.Most difference ?? Don't know about that, but I can tell you every cable in the chain will make some difference. Personally, I'd be looking at Speaker cables and IC's before power cords.
