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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    I just ordered the Solidsteel S3-5 rack from @helipilotdoug.

    S3-5-web.jpg

    New thread(s) coming soon.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    So just to be clear, after 15 pages you went with the one you mentioned in your very first post? Nice.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Close! That was the S2-5, this is the next model up which features additional niceties.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    So just to be clear, after 15 pages you went with the one you mentioned in your very first post? Nice.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    Nice man!
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,261
    Hermitism wrote: »
    So just to be clear, after 15 pages you went with the one you mentioned in your very first post? Nice.

    The story isn't over...we have to wait for it to arrive. Once inspected and the realization sits in that it's not 123% perfect we'll have to listen to the **** session about his Chevy not being a Bentley.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Wow Kerry, really? You know you don't have to read my threads.
    kharp1 wrote: »
    The story isn't over...we have to wait for it to arrive. Once inspected and the realization sits in that it's not 123% perfect we'll have to listen to the **** session about his Chevy not being a Bentley.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    I've said it before, I wouldn't want to walk next to him during a lightning storm. That sure was a run of bad luck. If anything, this thread has at least shown a downward spiral of quality of VTI and how they aren't made the same way as they used to be. End caps threaded vs. glued....crookedly.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    This. I hope that people searching for VTI equipment racks come across this thread and as a result don't buy their inferior products.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    If anything, this thread has at least shown a downward spiral of quality of VTI and how they aren't made the same way as they used to be.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    So do you get to keep the VTI?
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Anyone in the bay area is welcome to come take it from me for free. However I would feel awful knowingly handing off something of such poor quality to someone else. It would be like a curse to give it to someone, not a gift.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    So do you get to keep the VTI?

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    edited April 2018
    I was thinking you should sell it for the shipping cost to one of the guys here on the forum that works with metal. See if they can bend it.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Not a bad idea, I guess. But I doubt anyone is going to want to pay the $100-150+ it's going to cost to ship this heavy hunk of scrap metal.

    It cost me $89 or something to ship the pair of TSi100 bookshelf speakers to the east coast that I Christmas Karma'd on here. Shipping prices are insane right now.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    I was thinking you should sell it for the shipping cost to one of the guys here on the forum that works with metal. See if they can bend it.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    Do all shelf segments have issues or can you make a two shelf rack out of good parts of the VTI? Or make two separate amp stands, even though one will have longer legs. I remember you said you didn't have room for two racks but is there any sections salvageable?
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Hahah, I like your optimism and positive attitude!

    I imagine you could make a two shelf rack out of it, sure. I think as you build up the levels, the astounding lack of quality becomes more evident with each level as the instability increases.

    But yeah, might be good for little amp stands for someone with enough room for them. Like I said anyone in the bay area is welcome to come pick them up.

    @BlueFox I know you want to, don't lie.
    Hermitism wrote: »
    Do all shelf segments have issues or can you make a two shelf rack out of good parts of the VTI? Or make two separate amp stands, even though one will have longer legs. I remember you said you didn't have room for two racks but is there any sections salvageable?

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    edited April 2018
    If I lived there I'd be all over that. I'd turn it into a DIY project and make myself a two shelf rack. I'd take the leftover spikes and mount them on broomstick handles and make zombie pokers out of them.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,274
    edited April 2018
    Drew, if you could take one shelf to a UPS Store and see what boxing and shipping one rack and shelf section to me, I'd consider paying for the shipping.

    You know I have the tools to beat and bend those things into submission. ;)

    It would take you taking a section with the board shelf and seeing? I would be a worst case scenario and a possable buyer IF... it would be 100 to 150, even 200 for all the pieces to get here. I would do that.

    I hope you find the time, later on, to check out a UPS Store if there's one close to you. You know they do it all for you.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,261
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Wow Kerry, really? You know you don't have to read my threads.
    kharp1 wrote: »
    The story isn't over...we have to wait for it to arrive. Once inspected and the realization sits in that it's not 123% perfect we'll have to listen to the **** session about his Chevy not being a Bentley.

    You don't have to read my posts, either. Again, lighten up, it's getting old.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    You insult me, I respond, and then you tell me to lighten up.

    What a strange relationship we have.
    kharp1 wrote: »
    You don't have to read my posts, either. Again, lighten up, it's getting old.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2018
    I'll take one frame section with the wooden shelf to FedEx Office and ask them how much it would be to package and ship it. Not sure when I will be able to, Sunday maybe.
    Tony M wrote: »
    I hope you find the time, later on, to check out a UPS Store if there's one close to you. You know they do it all for you.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,274
    Cool.
    Does FedEx pack things for people like the UPS Store does?
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    Yep, and in my experience their shipping rates are $10 or so less so I use them now.
    Tony M wrote: »
    Cool.
    Does FedEx pack things for people like the UPS Store does?

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • helipilotdoughelipilotdoug Posts: 1,226
    DSkip wrote: »
    You will be at LSAF again though, right?

    Oh yeah! Will be at LSAF, Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise....
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

    http://www.douglasconnection.com
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2018
    Anyone have experience with Herbie's (Giant) Cone/Spike Decoupling Gliders?

    http://herbiesaudiolab.net/spkrfeet.htm

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    Looking at going with these for the new rack. They are supposed to be good for suspended hardwood floors like I have.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,991
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Anyone have experience with Herbie's (Giant) Cone/Spike Decoupling Gliders?
    I have seen HERBIE The Love Bug GLIDE past a '63-'67 'Vette a COUPLE of times. But that was DEAN Jones, not SPIKE Jones. :p

    (Now, if only I could make a reference to "Candid Camera" and "Man From U.N.C.L.E." in there somehow. LOL)

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,528
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Yep, and in my experience their shipping rates are $10 or so less so I use them now.

    I will always use Fed-Ex over UPS. Turns out UPS stores can charge whatever they want. And UPS freight is even worse.

    This was all my fault, as I just setup having them ship a pair of Magico S5 speakers (500 lbs) from my house in San Jose to Hayward CA, a distance about 40 miles. They said the driver would give a price estimate, and the driver says, “I don’t know.” I figure it can’t be more than $200-$300 to go 40 miles. They billed me $1200. Yikes!

    Fortunately, Magico put it on their account, and I paid them a couple hundred. I despise UPS.

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    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,274
    WOW.

    The TRUE meaning of "Highway Robbery". I could've flown to you with a friend and personally moved them. The state Gov. should...NOPE, the FBI should investigate this fraudster POS asap.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 11,528
    Well, it is called capitalism. Buyer beware. Live and learn. :)

    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,274
    The old get what you can while you can by sticking it to strangers huh?

    Some of us don't play by that philosophy.

    I've been through that debate before and didn't like what I read.

    I guess John should've just let that guy keep his player and chaulk it up to "Live and Learn" huh? :(
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • halohalo Posts: 5,100
    Hermitism wrote: »
    If anything, this thread has at least shown a downward spiral of quality of VTI and how they aren't made the same way as they used to be. End caps threaded vs. glued....crookedly.

    Actually, this may be a somewhat isolated incident.

    If you go through this entire thread from 2006, not much has changed in regards to VTI. forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/46986/vti-customer-service-sucks/p1

    I spoke with Drew about it and Ms. Fang is still in charge & she still claims that the racks are only in need of an "adjustment" with a rubber mallet to make them "square." Additionally, she is not keen on providing excellent service to her customers when one of the racks is actually less than perfect. She hasn't changed so why should her product line or her attitudes about customer service?

  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 2,499
    Halo, didn't the end caps used to be threaded on? Or were they always glued on? I might be getting two different series of VTI racks mixed up. When I move, I had planned on buying a VTI rack for my HT system, but if something can be bent straight by only a rubber mallet, that doesn't scream "strength" to me. I bought a laptop stand over the internet with an iron frame and after I put it together, it was slightly un-square. Nothing you'd notice if sitting on carpet, but if it was on a hardwood floor you'd notice. Slight wobble. No rubber mallet made on this earth would have bent this frame. It took all my strength to straighten it and it was only a $50 stand. Are they recommending using a rubber mallet on the frame or just on the end caps to level them out?

    I had always heard they were a really good bang for your buck rack, but those end caps on Clipdat's rack should never have passed quality control. I know Clipdat is wound a little tight sometimes... most of the time, but they should have made the situation right. I read a thread by SCompRacer about mass loading his VTI rack and he seemed very pleased with it.

    I am going to need a two shelf rack for a system I'm building this year for music only. I found a used two shelf VTI rack before all this happened and the seller posted a ton of pictures and everything lined up perfectly. I waited too long and someone else bought it. I'm thinking of putting more money towards a two shelf rack now, but haven't figured anything out yet. I'm curious as to how that Solidsteel will work out for him.
    2.0/3.0 - Marantz: PM8005 w/HT Bypass, NA8005 | Polk: LSiM703, LSiM706c | PS Audio: Duet, Power Port Classic, PerfectWave AC5 x3 PC | Wireworld Equinox 7 IC | AudioPrism Quietline MkIII x7 | Sanus UF30 | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps

    6.1 - Pioneer Elite SC-05 | Pio BDP-51FD | Polk: RTi8, CSi5, F/Xi3, CSi3 | HSU Research VTF-2 MK4 | PS Audio: Quintet, Power Port Classic | DCF124BW x3 SC | Pangea: AC-9SE x2, 14SE, 14 PC | AQ Chocolate x2 HDMI | M850SW | Acoustic Panels, GIK Soffit Traps
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