Dreadnaught Avel-Lindberg 1000VA Transformer Group Buy?

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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited August 2014
    Wow! Glad I haven"t been around in a while, so I could completely avoid this scuba idiot. Thanks to all the forum members who do what they do to help others. My 3 pairs of SDAs are happy critters.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2014
    Here are the facts, I paid in full and brought this group buy to the 15 unit price, at which point several others determined it was worth it for them to join in. The one mistake I made was allowing you to be a middleman in this transaction. If I had paid avel-lindberg directly we wouldn't be here right now. When you took it upon yourself to decide who is worthy and who is not you crossed the line. Your desperate need to justify to yourself the money you have spent on magical audio cables drove you to vilify me for disagreeing with you. Yes I called avel-lindberg and requested that they honor the original purchase group. First come first serve. You don't work for avel-lindberg and you don't dictate to whom they sell to.

    Been reading on my phone all day, somehow I missed this. First of all, I use Signal Cable in my hi-fi. I don't need to justify anything to myself, I'm quite pleased with my cables on a budget.

    As for Avel Lindberg, perhaps he doesn't understand the concept of a group buy. I don't control who they sell to, he is absolutely right. But in this group buy transaction, they're only selling to one person - me. I'm the one who paid them, so in this case, yes I do control who they ship to. And they will not be shipping one to Scooby Doo.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,499
    edited August 2014
    Let it go Neil, he is gone, you don't need to say anymore pertaining to scoobystupidissq..

    Let's get this thread back on track.. :-)
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2014
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Let it go Neil, he is gone, you don't need to say anymore pertaining to scoobystupidissq..

    Let's get this thread back on track.. :-)

    Ok, I'm done now....
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,809
    edited August 2014
    Neil, you don't have to prove anything to the members here
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,475
    edited August 2014
    But the dude could make a nice knife! lol
    --Gary--
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 12,692
    edited August 2014
    halo71 wrote: »
    But the dude could make a nice knife! lol

    You are correct, would have been nice having a knife maker in the family too.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited August 2014
    LOL I just hope my doesn't go up like a flaming Toaster, or I blaming PFB for building it :)

    BTW I don't even have some SDA's yet, just planning for a future.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2014
    voltz wrote: »
    BTW I don't even have some SDA's yet, just planning for a future.

    Good to be prepared!
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2014
    Thanks Neil, I received your PM. Thanks for the Githens shot, you know it's appreciated.

    I read the entire thread and thought the funniest part was all the usual rule-benders around here all of a sudden shouting about how we need rules.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,701
    edited August 2014
    drumminman wrote: »
    This tranny was discovered by Darque Knight when doing some research on how to build a better Dreadnaught. Avel-Lindberg had made a production run of these special audio grade transformers for an audiophile amp manufacturer and had a couple left over, one of which DK purchased and built a Dreadnaught with. Turned out to be a marked improvement over what he had been using, and he reported his findings to the forum.

    Actually, the person who discovered the 1000V Avel-Lindberg was forum member RickTfromAZ. I was discussing higher current transformers from Antek and Plitron and he suggested I look at the 1000V Avel-Lindberg, which I didn't know about because it is not part of their regular product offerings. I had previously inquired about the 1000V transformer in Avel-Lindberg's regular product line, the Y236956, but its specs were unsuitable. Ironically, the person at Avel-Lindberg I corresponded with did not mention the audio grade, AV-047548. They probably assumed it was no need to mention the AV-047548 since they probably didn't know of any in stock and A-L didn't plan on making any more of them.
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,841
    edited August 2014
    polrbehr wrote: »
    Never apologize, never explain; your true friends don't need it, and your true enemies will not believe you anyway. *

    Classy move nevertheless, and will serve as a reminder to anyone who thinks otherwise.

    * Read this on a packet of sugar in the Sayville Diner about 30 years ago, the things you remember! LOL

    I first read a version of this aphorism -- "Never retract, never explain, never apologize. Just get the job done and let them howl" attributed to a Canadian suffragette Nelly McClung.

    In whatever form, it is a great slogan to help get worthwhile things done in the face of opposition.

    Again, Neil, great job and thank you!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,499
    edited August 2014
    I need the Address's from 4 people!!!!

    Glenn Loisel
    Virgil Gannon
    Brian King
    Chris Brown

    Thanks!!!
  • fjross
    fjross Posts: 183
    edited August 2014
    Neil,

    Have stepped back from the forum a bit during the summer months. Sorry to hear the bull sh$t you had to go through. I was involved with the original 1000v group order and must say that all dealing with all the members was a pleasure. As stated before by many others, a wealth of knowledge is at your finger tips at this site. As a fairly new member to the site I was honored that the members put their trust in me to handle the group order. Melanie at AV is a class act and was one of the most pleasant person I have ever dealt with. It will all be worth it in a few weeks when they start shipping. Congrats to all and enjoy.

    Dave
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,499
    edited August 2014
    I have the cases all put together, I will box them up, and have them ready to ship by the end of the weekend...
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited August 2014
    WTG Larry!! thanks again!!
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  • dhlogic
    dhlogic Posts: 26
    edited August 2014
    Yes, great news. Thanks!
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,499
    edited August 2014
    14 cases made it to the post office...
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2014
    Hey guys, just saw this thread pop up, with just about all the info you'll need to wire up your Dreadnought. So I figured it'd be handy to post a link to it:


    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?160494-Dreadnought-Assembly-Questions
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  • Dang, and I missed out again....
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    Their 800VA tranny is an off the shelf item and also brings a big improvement when used as a Dreadnought. Not quite as much as the 1KVA one, but close. Also, a little cheaper
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,809
    drumminman wrote: »
    Their 800VA tranny is an off the shelf item and also brings a big improvement when used as a Dreadnought. Not quite as much as the 1KVA one, but close. Also, a little cheaper
    It's a lot cheaper. I ordered one about a 6 months ago, came to around $135.00 with shipping.
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  • Drumminman, Westmassguy, HI! Thanks for that info. I haven't had time for much in the way of hobbies, between work and the wife having an MI last year right before Christmas. I'm just getting around to finishing up the center channel I was working on at the time.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,809
    Drumminman, Westmassguy, HI! Thanks for that info. I haven't had time for much in the way of hobbies, between work and the wife having an MI last year right before Christmas. I'm just getting around to finishing up the center channel I was working on at the time.
    Hey Mark, hope all is well
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    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
    Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
    Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
    Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
    Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500

    dhsspeakerservice.com/



  • Westmassguy, It's all returning to semi-normal around here. The wife went through extensive physical therapy/rehab after the MI and the pair of stents they put in, but she has returned to work. Finally, I'm getting around to finish projects begun beforehand. I'll go dig up that old build thread and update it once I've taken some pictures of where I am presently.

    I guess that all things considered, we're doing okay. I just wish I'd been in on this big buy. Oh well, all I can hope for is the next one, I suppose.

    Mark
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  • dhlogic
    dhlogic Posts: 26
    edited August 2014
    No one's posted an update on this yet, so I figure I might as well! I got Larry's case on Thursday and the cables I plan on using with it yesterday.

    The cables are SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables with Neutrik NL4FC connectors. I have Neutrik NL4MP sockets and Neutrik SCDP-0 black gaskets for the case, amp and speakers on order from partsexpress.

    Everything looks great, can't wait to put everything together.

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 15,499
    What are you building to the left in the pic?

    Those cables look great!!
  • dhlogic
    dhlogic Posts: 26
    It's going to be a Nelson Pass F5 amplifier. It's my first real DIY electronics project. I've been doing research on it for quite some time, so everything should go smoothly. I've been collecting parts for the past couple years and now I'm close to start making progress on it.

    Same with my SDA-2B's. I've got your rings, gimpod pcb's, RDO-198 tweeters, Sonic Craft caps, Mills resistors, Jantzen coils (waiting for a custom order to arrive though) to replace all the stock ones, and the Avel Lindberg isolation transformer once it arrives. I've been collecting these parts since 2011 haha. I'm pretty excited to get started soon.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,416
    dhlogic wrote: »
    It's going to be a Nelson Pass F5 amplifier. It's my first real DIY electronics project. I've been doing research on it for quite some time, so everything should go smoothly. I've been collecting parts for the past couple years and now I'm close to start making progress on it.

    Same with my SDA-2B's. I've got your rings, gimpod pcb's, RDO-198 tweeters, Sonic Craft caps, Mills resistors, Jantzen coils (waiting for a custom order to arrive though) to replace all the stock ones, and the Avel Lindberg isolation transformer once it arrives. I've been collecting these parts since 2011 haha. I'm pretty excited to get started soon.

    I bought a Zen Balanced Line Stage from SCompRacer and am gonna be tweaking mine a bit as well. The Nelson Pass DIY stuff is some stuff I'd like to try, specifically the Burning Amp for the kido w/ some bookshelves.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 47,902
    Frank left off the end bell on those Neutrik connectors. Pretty cheesy, IMO.
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