Emotiva bad business practise thread
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polkfarmboy wrote: »Your post is very childish :biggrin:
Did you forget to wear your reading glasses today
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I think your claim that "the amp doesn't accept banana plugs" is dubious at best and needs some sort of proof to back it up. Based on what I've read in this thread and threads linked to by this thread, it sounds more likely to be user error.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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Even if you took the broken post out of the equation, you would still have to pay to ship it back to Emo. Thats the internet buddy boy, thats how it works. They are not going to commit to anything until they see the amp and determine if any fault was from abuse or their end.
If I was you, I'd take it somewhere local and have the post replaced and be done with it. I hate to say you get what you pay for as a knock to Emo, but really, did you think you were getting a top notch quality built product at that price point ? We all accept the fact that lower priced anything is going to cut corners somewhere. Live and learn bro, sometimes you have to just accept things for what they are.HT SYSTEM-
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I know your ripping on him for putting them in side ways however...
Due to the XPA-1 binding post being so wide, it has been recommended by EMO that this style is acceptable due the post being so wide appart. This has I beleive come from Lonnie their eng. at their company.
however I tend to beleive it can be also part user error.
Like I said I used the same MIT EXP 3 and 2 line with the same MIT bananas as well as MIT T2's and never had an issue.
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bobman1235 wrote: »I think your claim that "the amp doesn't accept banana plugs" is dubious at best and needs some sort of proof to back it up. Based on what I've read in this thread and threads linked to by this thread, it sounds more likely to be user error.
Bob you sound like you need a hug
Today I had my wife try this today when she was asking about the amp and she said " somethings definitely wrong " as she tried to push a plug in
I would make a vid but I would probably get the " your not even trying to push it in" from you Bobman judging by your post basicly calling me a liar hmm
If you read the linked threads then you would have read the part where I offered to make a vid of my receiver in working order ? I still use it to this day every day and I think the mods should take that post down and requested so based on the fact that its got nothing to do with this discussion -
I know your ripping on him for putting them in side ways however...
Due to the XPA-1 binding post being so wide, it has been recommended by EMO that this style is acceptable due the post being so wide appart. This has I beleive come from Lonnie their eng. at their company.
however I tend to beleive it can be also part user error.
Like I said I used the same MIT EXP 3 and 2 line with the same MIT bananas as well as MIT T2's and never had an issue.
I had UPA 2, XPA 3's and XPA 1 and never had an issue with any of them.
I never put the banana plug in sideways and I have mentioned that more than once :eek: -
polkfarmboy wrote: »I never put the banana plug in sideways and I have mentioned that more than once :eek:
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polkfarmboy wrote: »So I loose $60 shipping . Is this the way other internet companies function ?
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polkfarmboy wrote: »Today I had my wife try this today when she was asking about the amp and she said " somethings definitely wrong " as she tried to push a plug in
But did she keep pushing harder until it broke? -
Even if you took the broken post out of the equation, you would still have to pay to ship it back to Emo. Thats the internet buddy boy, thats how it works. They are not going to commit to anything until they see the amp and determine if any fault was from abuse or their end.
If I was you, I'd take it somewhere local and have the post replaced and be done with it. I hate to say you get what you pay for as a knock to Emo, but really, did you think you were getting a top notch quality built product at that price point ? We all accept the fact that lower priced anything is going to cut corners somewhere. Live and learn bro, sometimes you have to just accept things for what they are.
Your very right tony and thats just what I have to do .In fact one time I bought a helicopter from a net site and it was dead and I had to pay the return but....... they sent me a new one with an apology and gave me a whole bunch of spare parts and %30 off my next purchace
I have bought loads of electronics from the internet and users on here and I have sold a lot of stuff here .At some point your gona get a bum deal -
But did she keep pushing harder until it broke?
No, he kept pushing harder, as she screamed harder, until it broke.
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I know that Crutchfield includes prepaid UPS return shipping labels for purchases. However, I have found this to be the exception. Generally, whoever is doing the shipping pays for it.
Crutchfield can afford to do that, because while they have the advantage of low overhead, like most mail order/internet business', they still charge full retail on almost everything. Great customer service though, and occasionally great prices on closeouts. -
Crutchfield can afford to do that, because while they have the advantage of low overhead, like most mail order/internet business', they still charge full retail on almost everything. Great customer service though, and occasionally great prices on closeouts.
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No, he kept pushing harder, as she screamed harder, until it broke.
You sure she wasn't screaming "get away from me"?:eek: -
polkfarmboy wrote: »Amazon pays for returns too
Only on defective merchandise, in the first 30 days. Or if you pay for Amazon prime. -
Read title of thread and read rule #7 below.
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Emo is small potatoes compared to Crutchfield and Amazon, come on PFB, gimme a break to expect Emo to follow the same business model as those giants. If they did, they would be out of business.
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Just get new posts and call it a day.
You knew you had 30 days, you didn't test it, and then when you went to set it up and they didn't fit you figured you'd just push harder to make it fit when something obviously wasn't right. You're wife even said it "Somethings definitely wrong"
If something is definitely wrong then you need to stop and contact the company before damaging the amp or ruining your MIT's
This could all have been avoided by using common sense and a bit of patience. Now rather than flaming Emotiva, swallow your pride, realize you forced the MIT's when they obviously weren't fitting, ask for them to send you some new posts and move on. Live is way too short to be this upset over some ten dollar binding posts that can easily be replaced.Main Setup
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Geez man...PFB- Ok dude, time to man up and take some responsibility here. I know it's word not thrown around alot, but needs to be taken with more weight. **** happens sometimes, luckily for you this learning experience isn't that costly. Go get it fixed and move on with your life.HT SYSTEM-
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polkfarmboy wrote: »I would make a vid but I would probably get the " your not even trying to push it in" from you Bobman judging by your post basicly calling me a liar hmm
To be fair, I wasn't calling you a liar so much as calling you an idiot, but I was trying to be diplomatic about it. I believe that YOU believe that Emotiva put out a product that "doesn't accept banana plugs." So you're not LYING, you're just wrong. Since I owned an Emo amp in the past, and used banana plugs with it with no problem, I have to assume there's no design flaw there.
And considering you seem to have SEVERE problems with every product you come into contact with, and everyone you do business with... hey, I gotta make a judgement call. Nothing personal. Well, maybe a little.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
I'm not upset ?
I'm annoyed lol now I gota wait around for it to be fixed so its just a pain in the butt .It will take me 3 hours of work to make up the $60 I have to pay for the shipping -
bobman1235 wrote: »To be fair, I wasn't calling you a liar so much as calling you an idiot, but I was trying to be diplomatic about it. I believe that YOU believe that Emotiva put out a product that "doesn't accept banana plugs." So you're not LYING, you're just wrong. Since I owned an Emo amp in the past, and used banana plugs with it with no problem, I have to assume there's no design flaw there.
And considering you seem to have SEVERE problems with every product you come into contact with, and everyone you do business with... hey, I gotta make a judgement call. Nothing personal. Well, maybe a little.
So your calling me an idiot ? Well I cant really come back from that after buying a upa5 :biggrin:
Bobman I have fine ML and polk speakers that are awesome and dont have no probs with ? 3D tv ,plasma's bdp's xbox 360,ps3,wii , tube amp, sacd plyrs,dvr's cdp's dvd plr's , power conditioners ,receivers,projectors , tons of fancy lil mp3 players and blutooth gizmos plus all my rc planes and helicopters ?
Please bobman if you would be so kind as to fill me in on all these problems I am having and what brands . List them in alphabetical order because i have way too much stuff to keep track of
You know nothings ever said about all the fine polk rti setup I sold to members on here and how pleasant I was to deal with .I have been a great buyer too on the forum as I bought a sacd player and a power conditioner recently from the good members and have not had a single prob with
Only prob I have had here is with cody and I will post a vid of my receiver working and quotes from the threads he wanted to drag up .The other problem is with my emo so yep I have two problems dealing with 2 big chunks of **** -
Still waiting for PFB to update you all on this situation so I guess I will. He was issued an RMA at or before 2:20PM today by Matt Wall at Emotiva. This entire thread disgusts me.SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
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Still waiting for PFB to update you all on this situation so I guess I will. He was issued an RMA at or before 2:20PM today by Matt Wall at Emotiva. This entire thread disgusts me.
The entire thread ?? Really?? Your post disgusts me as well.. -
TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »The entire thread ?? Really?? Your post disgusts me as well..
Sorry I meant the way he went about this not every single post in here. He has known about Emotiva issuing him an RMA since 2:20PM at the earliet yet still continued to bash Emotive and whined about how it was going to take him 3 hours of his life to make that money.SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
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Sorry I meant the way he went about this not every single post in here.
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TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »That I agree with with..
Me too....except it's completely normal for a Polkfarmboy thread. I know that's not saying much.
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Sorry I meant the way he went about this not every single post in here. He has known about Emotiva issuing him an RMA since 2:20PM at the earliet yet still continued to bash Emotive and whined about how it was going to take him 3 hours of his life to make that money.
And who are you and why do you need to piss on PFB?
Just cause you drink the Emo KoolAid doesn't mean you have the right to put someone else's personal business on here. -
Me too....except it's completely normal for a Polkfarmboy thread. I know that's not saying much.
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