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  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited August 2010
    Never expect any price decreases when company moves manufacturing to China. Constant increase in price of raw materials, plus higher shipping costs erases most of the savings, leaving just a bit more profit. Which is the whole point of off-shoring -hence price stays the same.

    But anyhoo, let us all go back to the topic. New LSi goodness. Extra goodies we want. And a preview by a certain someone who will have a chance today to listen to new models and report back ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    W O W is all I can say for now. I'm NDA'd until Monday but I have some awesome pictures and the press release literature signed by all the designers. BRAGGING of course :D

    The design is absolutely ground up and you will just not believe it. The cutaway was amazing and their is NO laid back LSi anymore, although you'll have to deal with a STABLE 4ohm...meh 6ohm for most of the range but a 4ohm load nominal. Sorry 8ohm guys.

    The bases and cabinet design, structure, bracing, etc....sweet. Mark S. really pulled out all the stops for a couple neat tweaks and even you xover folks should finally be happy. They really listened guys and it's using a driver array and a particular driver, or drivers that Polk has never used. ARGH, wish I could say and be specific. LOL

    You know what the real kicker was? The new satellites. FINALLY a satellite worthy of wearing a speaker name. The best satellite speaker Polk has ever created since the M3....no kidding. They image like crazy and blend well with a subwoofer. The range should satisfy all price brackets and you should feel how heavy they are....secret later. Again, a total redesign and rethinking of the lineup and a huge departure from the pedestrian RM series to say the least.

    Blah blah....I'm gonna take a nap.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    W O W is all I can say for now. I'm NDA'd until Monday but I have some awesome pictures and the press release literature signed by all the designers. BRAGGING of course :D

    The design is absolutely ground up and you will just not believe it. The cutaway was amazing and their is NO laid back LSi anymore, although you'll have to deal with a STABLE 4ohm...meh 6ohm for most of the range but a 4ohm load nomial. Sorry 8ohm guys.

    The bases and cabinet design, structure, bracing, etc....sweet. Mark S. really pulled out all the stops for a couple neat tweaks and even you xover folks should finally be happy. They really listened guys and it's using a driver array and a particular driver, or drivers that Polk has never used. ARGH, wish I could say and be specific. LOL

    You know what the real kicker was? The new satellites. FINALLY a satellite worthy of wearing a speaker name. The best satellite speaker Polk has ever created since the M3....no kidding. They image like crazy and blend well with a subwoofer. The range should satisfy all price brackets and you should feel how heavy they are....secret later. Again, a total redesign and rethinking of the lineup and a huge departure from the pedestrian RM series to say the least.

    Blah blah....I'm gonna take a nap.

    grrrr pictures or it didn't happen! :p


    but you're lucky to get to see and be apart of all that, now its just the waiting game for the rest of us lol
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    edited August 2010
    I smell ribbons...
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I smell ribbons...

    Uh no.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    edited August 2010
    You could have at least let us dream until the big reveal on Monday... That would certainly have been a driver that Polk has never used.:p:cool:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    W O W is all I can say for now. I'm NDA'd until Monday but I have some awesome pictures and the press release literature signed by all the designers. BRAGGING of course :D

    The design is absolutely ground up and you will just not believe it. The cutaway was amazing and their is NO laid back LSi anymore, although you'll have to deal with a STABLE 4ohm...meh 6ohm for most of the range but a 4ohm load nominal. Sorry 8ohm guys.

    The bases and cabinet design, structure, bracing, etc....sweet. Mark S. really pulled out all the stops for a couple neat tweaks and even you xover folks should finally be happy. They really listened guys and it's using a driver array and a particular driver, or drivers that Polk has never used. ARGH, wish I could say and be specific. LOL

    You know what the real kicker was? The new satellites. FINALLY a satellite worthy of wearing a speaker name. The best satellite speaker Polk has ever created since the M3....no kidding. They image like crazy and blend well with a subwoofer. The range should satisfy all price brackets and you should feel how heavy they are....secret later. Again, a total redesign and rethinking of the lineup and a huge departure from the pedestrian RM series to say the least.

    Blah blah....I'm gonna take a nap.
    :cool:, get those pics out yesterday, no time for a nap!:D
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2010
    D.c.?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,415
    edited August 2010
    Face wrote: »
    D.c.?

    that's what I thought, picture doesn't really support that tho
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,462
    edited August 2010
    newsman wrote: »
    I'm not sure what Polk would do with previous gen. LSi. It's not like hi-fi market is booming in US.

    Mol
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * McCormack DNA 0.5 amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
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  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited August 2010
    Oh man, why do we have to wait till Monday? Comon, guys, throw a fellow Polkie a bone here :)
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,437
    edited August 2010
    Your excitement has me thinking... Should I make my wife happy and put the RTA's up for sale now only to have her whack me over the head for spending the kids college fund on some new LSi bookshelf speakers and subs (and an amp to drive them)? I can hear it now...But honey, with the RTA's gone there is more room for those home-schooling books. We can home school through college and we don't need the money!

    Never thought I'd look forward to a Monday.
    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    Sell them now...and naturally I'm loosely kidding but make every effort to hear these when they come out.

    I believe the sponsor demo program will actually come to fruition as well from the chatter at lunch today. We just have to figure out the best way to do it. What better place to hear a Polk loudspeaker and make a decision then at a Polkies house right? In a room that actually cares about sound? Stay on topic but keep that in your head since KAB mentioned it sometime ago as well.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited August 2010
    So, in your opinion, enough of an upgrade that those with the existing LSi series (with upgraded crossovers) should consider getting them as well?

    i.e. - if you already had the RTi series and did not mind the box look, I would not have considered it worth while to upgrade to the RTiA series. Is that true for the new LSi's as well or has the performance level been increased enough that if you are looking for a step above LSi's - this could be it?

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    After doing a few pairs of older LSi modifications, yes. It's a waste of time in cost vs **** but that's just me. I'm sure there will be some that will do it regardless and laud the improvements, which is awesome but I stopped caring about that some time ago personally.

    I'll modify a vintage speaker before I do another modern speaker.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Sell them now...and naturally I'm loosely kidding but make every effort to hear these when they come out.

    I believe the sponsor demo program will actually come to fruition as well from the chatter at lunch today. We just have to figure out the best way to do it. What better place to hear a Polk loudspeaker and make a decision then at a Polkies house right? In a room that actually cares about sound? Stay on topic but keep that in your head since KAB mentioned it sometime ago as well.

    I gotta ask Mark: will the new LSis be available at the current distribution channels? i.e. BB/Magnolia or will it be only available through the boutiques?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    After doing a few pairs of older LSi modifications, yes. It's a waste of time in cost vs **** but that's just me. I'm sure there will be some that will do it regardless and laud the improvements, which is awesome but I stopped caring about that some time ago personally.

    I'll modify a vintage speaker before I do another modern speaker.

    Just to make sure I understand you correctly:

    You do not consider modding the last gen LSi crossover to be worth the time or money spent, but would consider the new speakers enough of an upgrade - that it would be worthwhile selling an existing LSi setup and purchasing the new LSi line (at retail prices of course because it will be a few years before these show up on the used or refurb market)?

    I know you cannot speak specifics until Monday - I just want to make sure I understand your reply...

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    Just to make sure I understand you correctly:

    You do not consider modding the last gen LSi crossover to be worth the time or money spent, but would consider the new speakers enough of an upgrade - that it would be worthwhile selling an existing LSi setup and purchasing the new LSi line (at retail prices of course because it will be a few years before these show up on the used or refurb market)?

    I know you cannot speak specifics until Monday - I just want to make sure I understand your reply...

    Michael

    Correct and yes but realize, as I'm sure you do, it's just my opinion. I let the tweakers roll and push boundaries while I enjoy myself. Tweaks and doing special things while experimenting is the reason we have high fidelity so its got a ton of merit. Keep on keeping on.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • zx_toth
    zx_toth Posts: 417
    edited August 2010
    This could be interesting. Ive been recently thinking of upgrading my LSi to something higher on the audio hierarchy ... looking at the Paradigm Signature line ... Ill see what the new LSis have to offer.

    Z
    My Home Theater Rig
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    polkatese wrote: »
    I gotta ask Mark: will the new LSis be available at the current distribution channels? i.e. BB/Magnolia or will it be only available through the boutiques?

    I can't accurately answer that as it's not information that's usually available to me without asking questions and becoming a nuisance, of which I am anyways at HQ.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited August 2010
    I hope this is true and to see the photos Monday.
    This marketing is difficult to understand ...
    Polk:
    LSi customers will have to sell to update or are they compatible    :confused:

    01) DENON AVR-4308CI: Advanced 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH/ 3.1+2+2 CH A/V Home Theater /MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking and WiFi/170 watts x 7 channels
    02) SUNFIRE Grand Signature - Bob Carver's and SUNFIRE Cinema Grand
    03) OPPO BDP-83SE Blu-ray Disc Player w/SACD & DVD-Audio
    04) OPPO DV-980H 1080p Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI and 7.1CH Audio
    05) DENON DVD-2500BTCI: Blu-ray Disc™ DVD/CD Digital Player/Transport
    06) HITACHI P55T501. 55" HD1080 Plasma HDTV
    07) POLKAUDIO LSiC (Center speaker)
    08) POLKAUDIO LSi15 LEFT (Front speaker)
    09) POLKAUDIO LSi15 RIGHT (Front speaker)
    10) POLKAUDIO LSiC Vertically (Surround speaker)
    11) POLKAUDIO LSiC Vertically (Surround speaker)
    12) POLKAUDIO LSif/x LEFT (Surround back speakers)
    13) POLKAUDIO LSif/x RIGHT (Surround back speakers)
    14) VELODYNE OPTIMUN SERIES 12"(High Output Digital EQ SubWoofer 2400W/1200WRMS)
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=98096 (Not updated)
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited August 2010
    I just hope the crossovers are equal to the rest of the design this time around. If so, I'll be very excited to hear them.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,682
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    I hope this is true and to see the photos Monday.
    This marketing is difficult to understand ...
    :confused:

    You're unbelievable.
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  • wz2p7j
    wz2p7j Posts: 840
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    You're unbelievable.

    What's unbelievable? Same 'ol Bernal. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Chris
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,640
    edited August 2010
    Bernal, the new LSi will be spectacular. :D
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  • Frank840
    Frank840 Posts: 262
    edited August 2010
    Mark, will there be a demo in baltimore open to polkies?
    - This your Bush?
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    Polk Lsic,15's,9's, PSW1000
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    You're unbelievable.

    Yeah, I'm passing all comments from that direction...sorry, some other Polk guy can handle that from now on.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    Frank840 wrote: »
    Mark, will there be a demo in baltimore open to polkies?

    Yes, in mi casa....TBD.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    agfrost wrote: »
    Mol
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    I hope this is true and to see the photos Monday.
    This marketing is difficult to understand ...
    Polk:
    LSi customers will have to sell to update or are they compatible    :confused:

    01) DENON AVR-4308CI: Advanced 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH/ 3.1+2+2 CH A/V Home Theater /MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking and WiFi/170 watts x 7 channels
    02) SUNFIRE Grand Signature - Bob Carver's and SUNFIRE Cinema Grand
    03) OPPO BDP-83SE Blu-ray Disc Player w/SACD & DVD-Audio
    04) OPPO DV-980H 1080p Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI and 7.1CH Audio
    05) DENON DVD-2500BTCI: Blu-ray Disc™ DVD/CD Digital Player/Transport
    06) HITACHI P55T501. 55" HD1080 Plasma HDTV
    07) POLKAUDIO LSiC (Center speaker)
    08) POLKAUDIO LSi15 LEFT (Front speaker)
    09) POLKAUDIO LSi15 RIGHT (Front speaker)
    10) POLKAUDIO LSiC Vertically (Surround speaker)
    11) POLKAUDIO LSiC Vertically (Surround speaker)
    12) POLKAUDIO LSif/x LEFT (Surround back speakers)
    13) POLKAUDIO LSif/x RIGHT (Surround back speakers)
    14) VELODYNE OPTIMUN SERIES 12"(High Output Digital EQ SubWoofer 2400W/1200WRMS)
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=98096 (Not updated)

    Yes, current LSi owners will have to sell. The new line is, ironically enough, also called LSi, but will be entirely different, hence the decision to keep the name.

    P.S. Put your gear list in your sig. That's what it's for.
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