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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 3,059
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    treitz3 wrote: »
    Here is my point. There is actually a thread about it here on CP.

    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/125574/poor-quality-music/p1

    Jesse said it best (IMO) within this quote from years ago.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Many times over the years I had the same thought about getting a boom box and calling it a day. Eventually I managed to put together a rig that excels with great recordings yet makes bad ones sound pretty damn good. Don't give up, you'll get there one day.

    Been there, done that and got the T-shirt or 3 along the way. Don't get me wrong. There is no "level" that you have to spend to get there. Everyone is on their own audio journey and what level they stop at....or whatever level they keep pushing. That's up to that particular person.

    It took me a LONG time to go through the phase of "Wow". I echoed the thoughts of not only yourself, but many, many others. Including the thoughts of the OP of said link. It's like....Why in the H would I keep chugging, only to get my most favorite selections that now sound like absolute chit?!!!??!!!?

    I get it. What I am trying to relay is that there is another plateau beyond the horizon of what you think there is....or what you may think may be the end of audiophilia/Hi-Fi. That being that whatever you listen to? It is surprising and pleasurable. It does not matter if you are listening to Bob Marley, Neil Diamond, a 50's recording of Jazz, a compilation, compressed music, or otherwise.

    Now, do you prefer to listen to some selections over others? Absolutely and without a doubt. But do you change the selection, without adjusting the volume to match that of the era/recording? Nope. You enjoy what you previously passed upon (as your audio journey advanced).

    It's so nice to listen to selections that you forgot....as the resolution and performance of your system advanced....like they were new recordings. This time, you notice so much more to the music than you had ever experienced prior to that....and you get so lost into the music, that you forget that at one time along your audio journey? That it sounded like chit.

    Tom

    Wow indeed. That F1 quote regarding Vr3's quote was just shortly after I joined CP and was in the midst of building my "first" real set up with Monitor 70s (speakers with removable grills :o ).

    Every time I upgraded a speaker or component, I'd hear something new in my movies.

    I have always been a music lover, but my initial ratio was 90/10, movies to music.

    Over the years as my rig has progressed, my ratio has changed. And now (15 years later), some weeks, it's only music from my setup, and I love it.

    Who'd a thought way back then, a knee dragging knot head would be part of this group????!!!

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    So, that Mutec clock cable is seemingly taking for ever to burn in and get acclimated to the system. For that reason aand others, I am having a love/hate relationship with it. On the previous page of this thread, I had mentioned the sonic changes between this cable and the other one.
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Main differences right off the bat....and none of this is night and day, just subtle....

    Upper frequencies seem to be ever so slightly more pronounced/accentuated
    Lower registers are more articulate and further defined
    Improvement on visceral impact
    More relaxed and, shall I say, calm background
    Background sounds more pronounced/noticeable but not in your face

    All of the above are still the same, but are no longer as subtle as they were, when I first put the cable in. The placement of singers and instruments, along with the image specificity has definitely improved as well. The separation of singers is now very clear and the distance between them has improved....and not by just a little bit. Extremely calm background.

    One aspect that I am not sure I like, is that the tonal balance has now shifted. It does sound a little lean. More accurate, but still a little lean. Now, I will say this. The streaming rig did the same thing at one point, and while it sounded great, it just wasn't preferred. I actually preferred the tonal balance of the other clock cable, but I also prefer the aforementioned aspects of this cable. Like I said, Love/hate relationship.

    Looks like might have to upgrade the PC from the SRA Signature to the Takshaka on the Esoteric transport and quite possibly the DAC as well, if I want to get that tonal balance back. That's what I ended up doing on the streaming portion of the rig and it worked like a charm. Those Takshaka's definitely bring great tonal balance and weight to the sound.

    Since it is taking so long for this to burn in, I will just keep it playing non-stop for about another week, then revisit. Enjoying the tunes along the way.

    Tom

    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Dr_Wu
    Dr_Wu Posts: 356
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    Installed Vera-Fi Audio Snubway and Main Stream plugins. Nice cleanup in SQ. As usual, you notice the noise more in its absence than its presence. Thought I didn't need the filters with everything running through a PS Audio P10. Bad logic. I wasn't doing anything about the flow to the regenerator which, in an apartment building where I don't have a dedicated circuit, is/was a problem.
    Thanks for the tip, Tom!
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    You are welcome @Dr_Wu. When you target specific noise that enters the system, what you don't hear, makes you hear further into the music. I'm honestly glad I was able to help. Enjoy the music, brother.

    Oh, play around with placement, if you haven't already. It does make a difference.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 12,022
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    I demonstrated Drew's cables and the Hartleys to a couple of sons of the roofing Co. owner.

    Wow, they said. :o

    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
    --Mark Twain.

    “If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.” - Steven Wright
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,428
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    WAIT!! There's no laundry piled on it.....This belongs in the you're doing it wrong thread..... :D

    Hey now don't knock the people that pile their laundry on them. That could be the reason I own it as it was a freebie from fbmp. I'm happy especially since it's an $1,800 commercial Nordictrack unit with no issues.
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 3,059
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    Added a new piece of furniture yesterday to the listening room; my first treadmill. Plopped it in the sda sweet spot and that's likely going to be it's spot for the foreseeable future. I really need to do something as it's too cold or rainy to walk outside and my Stairmaster really started bothering my knees.
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    Costco shopper??? I have a very similar rug in my living room!!

    I apologize for your patritart poster, but everything else is pretty cool!!

    :D:D
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,428
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    Costco shopper??? I have a very similar rug in my living room!!

    I apologize for your patritart poster, but everything else is pretty cool!!

    :D:D [/quote]
    Thanks; Nope; rug is from Home Depot. I've yet to go to a Costco as there aren't any nearby. Hmmm; I guess you were so focused on the Patriot towel you didn't notice the original 48 star flag. :)

  • HzTweaker
    HzTweaker Posts: 1,136
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    Plugged everything in this evening so I can enjoy some listening time this weekend!
    2ch rig: Speakers: LSi9s with VR3's Fortress mods Preamplifier: Parasound P5 DAC: Fiio K13 Amplifier: Parasound A23 CDP: Pioneer DV-563A Cables: Wireworld Equinox 7 XLR ICs, Wireworld Ultraviolet 7 USB, AudioQuest Q2s, AudioQuest NRG X(preamp)

    Standby: Magnepan LRS w/Magna Riser stands
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 3,059
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    Costco shopper??? I have a very similar rug in my living room!!

    I apologize for your patritart poster, but everything else is pretty cool!!

    :D:D [/quote]
    Thanks; Nope; rug is from Home Depot. I've yet to go to a Costco as there aren't any nearby. Hmmm; I guess you were so focused on the Patriot towel you didn't notice the original 48 star flag. :)

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    Very nice!!!
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,321
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    You bros need to learn how the quote feature works.
    As far as my system: it got Swiffer dusting and I lint rolled the speaker grills. It's also been playing tunes for the last 5 hours.
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 3,059
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    billbillw wrote: »
    You bros need to learn how the quote feature works.

    W-w-w-why???? What will happen???? Now you've scared me Bill....... :D:DB):D:D

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    So, I had a recent auditory revelation that I wish I had done much sooner than I did. As many of you know, I have had Tyler Acoustics speakers for the better part of all of you knowing me. Ever since I heard Trey's little 7U's at Ted's Polkfest many, many, many moons ago? I knew that this was the direction I wanted my audio journey to take. Being able to "see" B.B. King walk across the stage was an eye (or rather, ear) opener for me. I simply fell in love with that tweeter/mid combo.

    Funny thing is, that wasn't even a stellar system. It was literally cobbled together haphazardly in Ted's living room. But to experience that? Well it completely changed the train tracks my audio journey was taking at the time. I ended up getting the same speakers I heard that day. Move forward more than a few years, I have had a set of Linbrooks that are arguably the most highly modified set in the world. They were basically rebuilt from the ground up, the crossovers were made to be external and everything was upgraded along the way. Literally from the spikes up and to the drivers themself. Then a couple of years ago, I drove to New York to pick up a near mint set of Ty's TOTL speakers. The Woodmere's.

    Along this journey, as many of you know, I have moved through multiple changes with gear, configurations, cables, sources and the like. There has been a significant change in the sonic capabilities and performance along the way. And trust me, when I say that this is an understatement.

    One thing that has always bugged me was the Cardas binding posts on the speakers. Cardas is generally well known and respected within the audio community, and has a general consensus of being one of the top tier binding posts available. Are there better? Absolutely, but these are stout and did the job quite well, as some of my observations over the years have put forth. The thing that bugged me is that the 'nanner's on my speaker cables never really sat snug. I would have to use an eraser and some rubber bands to make sure that the connections did not fall out during heavy playback.

    Below is the only photo I could find that illustrates what it is I am talking about when it came to the SC's. Both the Transparent and SRA SC's did the same thing (with expanding OD of the'nanner's to secure them in place). The AQ Sure Grip 'nanner's, for some reason, did not require the eraser and rubber bands to have a secure connection, but they were upgraded and I preferred the sound of the new cables better than the AQ's. Please forgive the dust, I normally do not go back behind the speakers and this photo was taken during one of my configuration swaps for the jumpers a year or so ago.

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    So, basically, you do see that the connection is made. It is also secured and I never had any issues when hooking them up this way. Or so I thought. While the sound has been nothing short of incredible lately, what I did next was the revelation.

    Continued on next post.....

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    I researched a bit into Cardas binding posts to see why the connection is not secure. I learned that Cardas binding posts are often mentioned in discussions about reliable connections. That the binding posts are primarily designed to work best with spade lugs and while Cardas binding posts can accommodate banana plugs, they are not optimized for them. Well yeah, no chit, Sherlock! I already knew that. 4mm seems to be the norm, but Cardas accepts larger (I believe I read, up to 7mm)

    So, I got to taking a closer look at them and did some experimenting. A week or two ago, I ordered a very thin 99% pure copper band and custom cut them, to fit in the ID as a shim, if you will. This did not go as anticipated, so I immediately scratched that idea altogether. So, I took a look at the binding posts even further.

    What I learned is that with the spade nut in place, the banana clips would not provide a secure fitment. But when I took the spade nut (technically called a counter nut) out, I could securely mount both banana's in place without fear of them ever moving. So, I pondered for a bit and did some measurements with calipers. Long story short, I went out to the shop and bench ground off about 3mm of the back of the nut, so it could be screwed further in, onto the binding post itself. After grinding one nut, I cleaned up the inside thread pattern with a fine round file and went back to test to see if this would even work. It did! So, I spent the next hour and a half carefully grinding, finishing and polishing all of the nuts where the SC's would be attached.

    I then went back to the stereo room and hooked everything back up. This time, with no need at all for rubber bands and an eraser. When I turned on the rig, I could not believe what I was hearing. All of the aspects I have worked so hard to achieve over the years came into a rather profound clarity and focus. I kind of figured that a slight change, to no change at all would happen. I am happy to say that I was completely incorrect with that assumption. What I knew was fantastic before, is now on a level that……well, it's just on another level. The image clarity/specificity/locational/aural cues and palpability is so clearly spot on now, it's kind of a shock to me. As mentioned before, an auditory revelation.

    So, knowing what I know now, I am looking to upgrade all of the binding posts on the Woodmere's. Since they are tri-ampable, I will need twelve total. And, as you can guess, I am not looking at Cardas. I was speaking with an industry insider the other day about this and WBT appears to be the route I'd like to explore. I was eyeing this one -

    http://www.wbtusa.com/pages/0705cun.html - WBT - 0705Cu

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    We'll see what the price comes in at for 12 of them…..along with the possibility of custom making a binding post plate for the Woodmere's. But from what I am hearing now? The investment will be more than worth the expenditure. Here is the "after" modification and configuration. All connections are now rock solid.

    SRA Signature SC's into the bass network > Tara Labs, "The Muse" jumpers into the tweeter network > Audience Front Row jumpers go to the mid network.

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    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,365
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    But.....but......no comment about how it actually sounds. What's up widdat?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Clipdat
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    It doesn't sound very good without a SnubWay, that's for sure.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,752
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    Looks much better
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • displayname
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    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I purchased this a few weeks ago from Zach here on the forum.
    I was surprized the power supply didn’t have a face plate like the Phono Pre.
    Well, I had to change that, 😁
    I haven’t installed it yet, but you get the idea.. 😎

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    At least now they look like they belong together..😎 IMO, this is how they should be done..

    Looks great, and that's an awesome unit. Looked closely at that at SWAF and really considered it. If I didn't already have a quality Sutherland I would have gone that direction.
    Analog: Hana ML > VPI Prime Signature 21 > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Norma IPA-140 > Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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  • haudevbe
    haudevbe Posts: 17
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    Yo! You're speaking the truth—noise floor is the silent killer of great audio. Chasing that ultra-black background where the space between notes feels like pure silence is what separates a decent system from a mind-blowing one.

    When you start eliminating noise—ground loops, RF interference, power supply garbage—you unlock details you didn’t even know were there. Imaging gets sharper, depth expands, and suddenly, you're hearing into the soul of the recording. It’s addictive.

    So, what's your current noise-killing setup? Are you rocking power conditioning, star grounding, shielded cables, or some secret sauce tweak?
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,163
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    Mailed off the BASH amp along eit the crossover for the Prelude MTS sub.

    Started with some liquid nails, along with vise grip clamps, to glue some split areas on the sub enclosure (Prelude MTS) enclosure from a previous owner cranking too hard on the screws holding everything together.

    For hell’s sake….. it’s not tighten till it bleeds then give it two more turns.

    Sometimes too tight is loose!
  • displayname
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    About a week late, but I’ve become a believer in SUTs. grkr1704dzks.jpeg
    Analog: Hana ML > VPI Prime Signature 21 > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Norma IPA-140 > Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 8,321
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    Nice! I was tempted to get one of those Bob's more than once along the journey. I had also looked at building one myself (putting the transformers inside my Pearl case), but I settled on higher output carts instead.
  • displayname
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    billbillw wrote: »
    Nice! I was tempted to get one of those Bob's more than once along the journey. I had also looked at building one myself (putting the transformers inside my Pearl case), but I settled on higher output carts instead.

    That's probably a much easier solution honestly. I was lucky that I have a Hana cart which is also Bob's current preference, and I got to demo with an Umami Blue which has the same output and loading as my ML. Allowed me to be pretty confident in the specific pairing.
    Analog: Hana ML > VPI Prime Signature 21 > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Norma IPA-140 > Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
    Discogs
  • treitz3
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    Ordered a SDFB MAX, along with the Snake River Audio Takshaka 8" pig tail and a graphene Sluggo today. I'll probably have everything here with 3 weeks and I also discovered a bonus! The QSA Red and Black fuse gets to stay in the Power Supply of my amp. That one was in place for the PS control unit circuit board, so the aforementioned will be for the (32A rated) main Power Supply fuse. I currently have a Takshaka PC, so the only thing I will hear will be the effect of losing a cheap ceramic 10 dollar fuse and replacing it with a graphene Sluggo and a SDFB MAX.

    For anyone who doesn't know what a SDFB is, it's short for a "Swiss Digital Fuse Box". https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/swiss-digital-fuse-box

    Also, I got the 12 upgraded WBT flagship speaker binding posts in. Just need to find the time to install them.

    Yesterday, I went and cleaned the 2 fuses in the PS of my amplifier. I removed any/all oxidation and polished the contacts to perfection and then applied some De-Oxit D100 to them. Then, I did the same thing to the 3 IEC prongs that the PC plugs into. Plugged everything back in and I could definitely tell that I did not waste my time.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Dr_Wu
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    After a nice conversation with Alex at Uptone Audio (etherRegen maker), ordered the parts to feed the ER fiber optic, converting the ethernet from the router. Hoping for a nice bump in SQ.
  • Tony M
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    Bob of "Bob's devices" lives a few miles North of me.

    Many years ago, he came to my place to buy an older Onkyo receiver I had listed for sale for his Daughter. He saw where Manufacturers were leaving phono inputs out, so he just wanted to have a backup for later years.

    He was a fan of Onkyos with a #d dial pad on the face plates, similar to that of a touch-tone phone. Those models were/are very dependable and they sound great to me too.

    I called/emailed him when I saw he was listed in a Stereophile magazine recommended components issue many years ago. He remembered me. He said the Onkyo receiver was in his attic, and it was about time to give it to his daughter since she had grown up now.

    I've looked for his accolades in all the stereo mags and online articles also.

    He's a cool guy. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

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    --Mark Twain.

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  • recoveryone
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    Started off this weekend listening to my office rig in 2ch R600's, sounds from the 60's Motown through the 70's R&B. I'm finishing off this Sunday in the livingroom with my main 2ch rig with the R700's

    https://youtu.be/-0dNCZB7ssg
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