Possible power outage for next two days
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I had this huge post ready but awe man it might have been to rude.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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I had this huge post ready but awe man it might have been to rude.
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And full of grammatical errors.
Yes it would have been. I'm a product of CA public schoolsWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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California - the place where their people want to teach the rest of us on how we should live. Right.
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Kex, don’t confuse them with the truth. They prefer living in their fantasy world of nonsense and stupidity.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Ok, ok don't turn this political or anything, or at least anymore. Many different points of view here, some good some bad.
I find the CA wildfires have more to do with what we have done or failed to do. These wild fires suck, can we do more to stop or limit them, yes.
As for CA being the most screwed up state... All states have their up and downs, doesn't matter which way they swing.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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Well I just read this thread. OMG! All I can add is my thoughts and prayers goes out to all of our brothers and sisters in CA! Stay safe! We can sort out the rest later!Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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Actually, reading this thread, it looks more like everyone else is trying to tell Californians what’s wrong them... 🤔
You're finally getting it.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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You can thank us for our almost 460 billion in contributions to the federal budget later... the second highest is New York with just over 281 billion.
"California's Taxpayer Burden is -$21,800, and it received an "F" from TIA. California is a Sinkhole State without enough assets to cover its debt. California only has $114 billion of assets available to pay bills totaling $388.9 billion."
Oops, wrong hole!
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You can thank us for our almost 460 billion in contributions to the federal budget later... the second highest is New York with just over 281 billion.
Your forgetting the amount California receives from the Federal Government.
It is a net $12 per resident.
In past years, it is true California was a net giver state by a relatively small margin, but recently it is a net getter state.
From USA Today:
40. California
• Net federal funding: $12 per resident
• Total revenue from fed. gov.: $436.1 billion (the most)
• SNAP benefit recipiency: 8.9 percent (tied - 12th lowest)
• Median household income: $71,805 (8th highest)
Source data comes from the Rockefeller Institute of Government 2019 Report.
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Well I have to admit, I lived in CA for 4 years. Yes, somewhat sequestered at Vandenberg AFB, but after I left the Air Force, well, it's a nice place to visit. Been back a few times to visit friends, and the Mrs has family out there. Just not my thing. That's OK, IMO.
Still love all you guys out there! And, still wishing you all the best during this time!
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It must be jealousy. There’s no other reason to explain such an unhealthy fascination with, hatred of California
Try to remember who started this thread, OK? I believe it was from a Californian who
was (understandably) upset that he might lose power for a few days.
You can't voice complaints then get mad at people for agreeing with you that yes, the situation sucks.So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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For a wannabe moderator, you are very adept at stirring the pot.
I'm amused at how you let me live rent free in your head.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Here in Northern CA it is fire season, and our power company has caused some major fires the last few years. Since they are being sued, and have declared bankruptcy due to those fires they are into overkill trying to not start anymore fires. So, at midnight they are shutting off power to quite a large area, and millions of people, for two days. I am right on the edge of the cutoff zone, and not sure if I will be affected or not. To be on the safe side I am listening to the stereo, and drinking beer tonight.
Well, as of Saturday evening PG&E is saying 99% of power has been restored. They say that the lines have to be inspected before power can be restored, and they can only be inspected during the day. If this is going to be the new practice during fire season then they need to come up with an automated line inspection method so they can quickly restore power.
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It must be jealousy. There’s no other reason to explain such an unhealthy fascination with, hatred of CaliforniaAnd I was thinking to myself
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Ewzk_WT54
So right now we are witnessing some of the "Hell" there at the "Hotel California".
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Well, as of Saturday evening PG&E is saying 99% of power has been restored. They say that the lines have to be inspected before power can be restored, and they can only be inspected during the day. If this is going to be the new practice during fire season then they need to come up with an automated line inspection method so they can quickly restore power.
Yep, it's state law and Huggies was spot on about it. You and the Kexter weren't.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Yep, it's state law and Huggies was spot on about it. You and the Kexter weren't.
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Keep digging Kexter, you'll get to the bottom soon enough.Political Correctness'.........defined
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So what's the problem?
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Mikey081057 wrote: »So what's the problem?
This obviously passed the urban area yearly inspection.
The power lines are all well away from trees and dry vegetation that cause fires.
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Wrong again.New Ca law (enacted by PUC and signed by Gov Newsome) REQUIRES utilities (ALL, not just PG&E) to de-energize areas that face severe wind threat/ fire risk.
This has the Doppler effect of potentially impacting huge swaths of the State if that threat impacts a “Transmission” (500/230KV) Tower corridor(s).
When that level of shut off is enacted, you don’t just flip a switch back on. The law requires PG&E to physically/visually inspect every single piece of equipment (down voltage) of the shut down BEFORE it can be re-energized. This means every tower, line, transformer, pad apparatus, substation, pole, reclosure, etc.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Nah, you do it.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Find the ACTUAL law and post a link. Until then, it’s an unsubstantiated proclamation.
Not saying it doesn’t exist, and I spent some time searching, but I can’t find it. This link is the best I found regarding power line inspections.
https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/General.aspx?id=7719
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Find the ACTUAL law and post a link. Until then, it’s an unsubstantiated proclamation.
And while you’re looking, find a sense of humor. It’s the internet, not real life!
The Los Angeles Times reported the law here.
The California Senate Bill No. 167 CHAPTER 403 Approved by Governor October 02, 2019. Filed with Secretary of State October 02, 2019. is here.
Additionally there is California Senate Bill No. 901 CHAPTER 626 pertaining to utility wildfire mitigation and
there was a Case No. 14-CR-00175-WHA, RESPONSE TO ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE WHY PG&E’S CONDITIONS OF PROBATION SHOULD NOT BE MODIFIED which discusses PG&E's responsibility for wildfire mitigation.
Full details of Pacific Gas and Electric Company Amended 2019 Wildfire Safety Plan February 6, 2019 are here.Post edited by Deltadon on -
The Los Angeles Times reported the law pertaining to utility wildfire mitigation here.
The California Senate Bill No. 167 CHAPTER 403 Approved by Governor October 02, 2019. Filed with Secretary of State October 02, 2019. is here.
Additionally there was a Case No. 14-CR-00175-WHA, RESPONSE TO ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE WHY PG&E’S CONDITIONS OF PROBATION SHOULD NOT BE MODIFIED which discusses PG&E's responsibility for wildfire mitigation.
If it was just passed then it probably isn’t in effect yet, as there usually is a time period before a new law takes effect. I might have missed it, but I didn’t see anything saying the power lines had to be inspected before power is restored.
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If it was just passed then it probably isn’t in effect yet, as there usually is a time period before a new law takes effect. I might have missed it, but I didn’t see anything saying the power lines had to be inspected before power is restored.
PG&E says this in their news releases here and here
This is typical utility practice for storm restoration.For restoration to begin, the company must inspect its affected equipment to ensure no damage has occurred to its equipment.
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PSPS is the acronym for “Public Safety Power Shutoff”.
New Ca law (enacted by PUC and signed by Gov Newsome) REQUIRES utilities (ALL, not just PG&E) to de-energize areas that face severe wind threat/ fire risk.
This has the Doppler effect of potentially impacting huge swaths of the State if that threat impacts a “Transmission” (500/230KV) Tower corridor(s).
When that level of shut off is enacted, you don’t just flip a switch back on. The law requires PG&E to physically/visually inspect every single piece of equipment (down voltage) of the shut down BEFORE it can be re-energized. This means every tower, line, transformer, pad apparatus, substation, pole, reclosure, etc.
This is why a 2 day event can potentially keep areas dark for several days after the threat has passed. It is a MASSIVE man hrs. labor intensive process on 24/7 overtime staffing.
PG&E loses HUGE $$ when this is enacted as thousands of meters are not spinning and the labor cost to comply is huge. They don’t want to do these. They are legally mandated to now. This is the arrangement that was brokered through the PUC to balance the conflicting liability/service reliability laws. It is all driven because of California’s “Inverse Condemnation” liability conflict with PUC’s previous fining of the Company based on outage reliability.
Prior, power shut off or outage = fine. Leave it on, and have ANY% role in a fire= 100% liability.
If a limb 1/4 mile away blew into a transmission line and brought down hot conductor starting a fire?
PG&E liable. No such thing as “Act of God” factored.
No other State in the Nation has these asinine conflicts of law.
So, to make this real. This is analogous to you knowing your daughter MAY have a bad hair dryer. Until she leaves, you shut your house main off. Now, by law, before you can flip the main switch back on, you must hire an electrician to inspect (and document) every breaker below your main, every wire in your attic, every wall switch, every outlet, etc. Then, you must one by one phase in all your breakers so you don’t shock load the system, then you have to go back and program all your digital electronics.
Multiply this by 50K square miles.
This was the narrative posted as an opinion commentary in a couple of places.
- My_Opinion OCT 10, 2019 AT 11:16PM
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Might be typical utility practice, but no law mandating it is referenced.
The laws refer to the wildfire mitigation requirement. Proper restoration is a part of the requirement.
What do you think would happen to PG&E if they didn't properly inspect and then re-energized a downed line causing a fire or a line with a tree on it that resulted in a fire? They legally have to practice their due diligence. They are in enough trouble as it is.
