Possible power outage for next two days
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The first house Nooshin and I made an offer on is in the burn area... thank god we are twenty miles southwest, but the smoke here is really bad right now. My eyes are burning.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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afterburnt wrote: »well its on fire anyway
It's been on fire for weeks, now.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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With the dry conditions and Santa Ana winds, flipping a cigarette bu tt out the window can start a fire. Reasons for the current fires is still unknown.
Can't bring any lawsuits from individual carelessness, but you big companies.....you got lots of cash and insurance policies.
Can't blame everything on the power companies. The state has to bear some responsibility and do everything within it's power to keep these fires at a minimal. Can anyone honestly say they are doing just that ? I don't think so....HT SYSTEM-
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Everything is fine here, except for trying to get Social Security straightened out. Stereo is warming up, and the beer is cold.
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except for trying to get Social Security straightened out......
Lol.... bout that... don’t think that will happen even in my lifetime"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
nooshinjohn wrote: »The first house Nooshin and I made an offer on is in the burn area... thank god we are twenty miles southwest, but the smoke here is really bad right now. My eyes are burning.
I would say come one down to Chula Vista. We just had a small fire just east of me, no real danger home owners with pool pumps slowed it till CVFD came. Now the smell is in the air.With the dry conditions and Santa Ana winds, flipping a cigarette bu tt out the window can start a fire. Reasons for the current fires is still unknown.
Can't bring any lawsuits from individual carelessness, but you big companies.....you got lots of cash and insurance policies.
Can't blame everything on the power companies. The state has to bear some responsibility and do everything within it's power to keep these fires at a minimal. Can anyone honestly say they are doing just that ? I don't think so....
I 1000% agree Tony. There is a lot the state can do but don't any more. controlled burns. 1/2 mile wide bulldozed fire breaks more fire roads lift restrictions on clearing private land so on and so on.
There is a lot of greatness to Cal but in the last 20 years it has changed for the worse.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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Brad Sherman shoe-horned himself into the press conference saying the Fed is 75% responsible for picking up the tab and patted himself on the back for voting for aerial tankers and helicopters. He was actually smiling on camera most of the time while lives are at risk and homes burn... what a putz.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Sounds like a professional politician. Who is Brad Sherman?
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Thanks. While there are fires up here, none are in the Bay Area. PG&E has really P.O.ed a lot of people by shutting down the power. On the other hand, if their power lines did cause problems like in the last two years then another group of people would be P.O.ed.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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I skipped the previous 4 pages of posts, so if I repeat something already said, forgive me.
PG&E is not really to blame here, Comifornia is though. Over the top environmental laws make it impossible for PG&E to maintain all those power line right of ways. Endangered fauna, mammals, invertebrate, insects, mammals, etc, etc... make it illegal for them to clear many of these areas. The outrageous laws also make PG&E liable if a tree branch 1/4 mile away hits a power line then causes a fire. Following is a rather long explanation on why a 2 day wind event can turn into a week or longer power outage due to the laws in California.
PSPS is the acronym for “Public Safety Power Shutoff”.
New Ca law (enacted by PUC and signed by Gov Newsome) REQUIRES utilities (ALL, not just PG&E) to de-energize areas that face severe wind threat/ fire risk.
This has the Doppler effect of potentially impacting huge swaths of the State if that threat impacts a “Transmission” (500/230KV) Tower corridor(s).
When that level of shut off is enacted, you don’t just flip a switch back on. The law requires PG&E to physically/visually inspect every single piece of equipment (down voltage) of the shut down BEFORE it can be re-energized. This means every tower, line, transformer, pad apparatus, substation, pole, reclosure, etc.
This is why a 2 day event can potentially keep areas dark for several days after the threat has passed. It is a MASSIVE man hrs. labor intensive process on 24/7 overtime staffing.
PG&E loses HUGE $$ when this is enacted as thousands of meters are not spinning and the labor cost to comply is huge. They don’t want to do these. They are legally mandated to now. This is the arrangement that was brokered through the PUC to balance the conflicting liability/service reliability laws. It is all driven because of California’s “Inverse Condemnation” liability conflict with PUC’s previous fining of the Company based on outage reliability.
Prior, power shut off or outage = fine. Leave it on, and have ANY% role in a fire= 100% liability.
If a limb 1/4 mile away blew into a transmission line and brought down hot conductor starting a fire?
PG&E liable. No such thing as “Act of God” factored.
No other State in the Nation has these asinine conflicts of law.
So, to make this real. This is analogous to you knowing your daughter MAY have a bad hair dryer. Until she leaves, you shut your house main off. Now, by law, before you can flip the main switch back on, you must hire an electrician to inspect (and document) every breaker below your main, every wire in your attic, every wall switch, every outlet, etc. Then, you must one by one phase in all your breakers so you don’t shock load the system, then you have to go back and program all your digital electronics.
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No spam about it. I'm guessing you didn't even know that they were required by the State to shut power down. They didn't have a say in it.
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First reported casualty.
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That is very sad. Knew this would happen with some folks lives dependent on the power being on.
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Just saw that a person on oxygen in CA died within minutes of the power being cut.
Anticipating the lawsuit that will be forthcoming...."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Yea, I don't post much. That's just me. Born and raised in California with all my closest family still living there. Not spamming, just posting how I see things, with a few facts mingled in there. -
I think he already did...Yeah... that’s pretty one-sided thinking, so I won’t even bother.
I agree with BlueFox... mostly moronic post. If you think it’s “comifornia” you’re welcome to leave.
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I skipped the previous 4 pages of posts, so if I repeat something already said, forgive me.
PG&E is not really to blame here, Comifornia is though. Over the top environmental laws make it impossible for PG&E to maintain all those power line right of ways. Endangered fauna, mammals, invertebrate, insects, mammals, etc, etc... make it illegal for them to clear many of these areas. The outrageous laws also make PG&E liable if a tree branch 1/4 mile away hits a power line then causes a fire. Following is a rather long explanation on why a 2 day wind event can turn into a week or longer power outage due to the laws in California.
PSPS is the acronym for “Public Safety Power Shutoff”.
New Ca law (enacted by PUC and signed by Gov Newsome) REQUIRES utilities (ALL, not just PG&E) to de-energize areas that face severe wind threat/ fire risk.
This has the Doppler effect of potentially impacting huge swaths of the State if that threat impacts a “Transmission” (500/230KV) Tower corridor(s).
When that level of shut off is enacted, you don’t just flip a switch back on. The law requires PG&E to physically/visually inspect every single piece of equipment (down voltage) of the shut down BEFORE it can be re-energized. This means every tower, line, transformer, pad apparatus, substation, pole, reclosure, etc.
This is why a 2 day event can potentially keep areas dark for several days after the threat has passed. It is a MASSIVE man hrs. labor intensive process on 24/7 overtime staffing.
PG&E loses HUGE $$ when this is enacted as thousands of meters are not spinning and the labor cost to comply is huge. They don’t want to do these. They are legally mandated to now. This is the arrangement that was brokered through the PUC to balance the conflicting liability/service reliability laws. It is all driven because of California’s “Inverse Condemnation” liability conflict with PUC’s previous fining of the Company based on outage reliability.
Prior, power shut off or outage = fine. Leave it on, and have ANY% role in a fire= 100% liability.
If a limb 1/4 mile away blew into a transmission line and brought down hot conductor starting a fire?
PG&E liable. No such thing as “Act of God” factored.
No other State in the Nation has these asinine conflicts of law.
So, to make this real. This is analogous to you knowing your daughter MAY have a bad hair dryer. Until she leaves, you shut your house main off. Now, by law, before you can flip the main switch back on, you must hire an electrician to inspect (and document) every breaker below your main, every wire in your attic, every wall switch, every outlet, etc. Then, you must one by one phase in all your breakers so you don’t shock load the system, then you have to go back and program all your digital electronics.
Multiply this by 50K square miles.
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Isn't this discussion a good reason to encourage solar panels on a local level or even on rooftops? Although some states have tried to squash their use on behalf of power companies, maybe offsetting tax credits could be used for households who make the initial investment in the panels? Just a thought....
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In the meantime one of those homeless camps will be responsible, for the next blaze, those Santa Ana winds will spread mayhem once again.Home Theater
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In the meantime one of those homeless camps will be responsible, for the next blaze, those Santa Ana winds will spread mayhem once again.
Actually the suspected point of origin is on my patrol and there are a ton of homeless camps and people near there. I find campfire rings out in the worse places for any kind of fire. -
In the meantime one of those homeless camps will be responsible, for the next blaze, those Santa Ana winds will spread mayhem once again.
Good point Steve.
California, who wants the feds to pay for stuff, has no problem building the homeless apartments at close to 600k per unit. They allocated a billion plus bucks for that project, 3 years in the making. No problem supporting illegal immigration, another billion plus bucks, while fires destroy homes and take lives. Not just a one and done event either, happens on a yearly basis. Yet they always find money for free needles, free housing, free medical, etc.
Priorities....they need a dictionary out there. There comes a point in governing, when you have to put aside politics and agendas to do what is right for the masses you govern. Nobody out there has received that memo yet.HT SYSTEM-
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Your post is full of holes defending PG&E, why are you even here?
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afterburnt wrote: »In the meantime one of those homeless camps will be responsible, for the next blaze, those Santa Ana winds will spread mayhem once again.
Actually the suspected point of origin is on my patrol and there are a ton of homeless camps and people near there. I find campfire rings out in the worse places for any kind of fire.
My money is on the lady that talks to the bushes, I bet she set it on fire. I hope I don't see her carrying some tablets today. -
In the meantime one of those homeless camps will be responsible, for the next blaze, those Santa Ana winds will spread mayhem once again.
Good point Steve.
California, who wants the feds to pay for stuff, has no problem building the homeless apartments at close to 600k per unit. They allocated a billion plus bucks for that project, 3 years in the making. No problem supporting illegal immigration, another billion plus bucks, while fires destroy homes and take lives. Not just a one and done event either, happens on a yearly basis. Yet they always find money for free needles, free housing, free medical, etc.
Priorities....they need a dictionary out there. There comes a point in governing, when you have to put aside politics and agendas to do what is right for the masses you govern. Nobody out there has received that memo yet.
I can't like this post more than once, so I'll say it here too.
So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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So now the fires are being tied to immigration and the homeless now....interesting view.
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lol. I wasn't intending to defend PG&E as much as place an equal amount of blame on the state. PG&E has let their infrastructure age without proper maintenance. I believe they also were at fault for the large gas explosion that happened, I believe in San Bruno , due to lack of maintaining the gas lines on the peninsula.
