Possible power outage for next two days
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Doesn't matter Doc, it's the wind that supposedly is knocking down the wires onto the dry ground. Since we can't control the weather, we can control how stable we built towers to hold those lines. Make sense ?
If you bury the lines, yeah it's gonna cost more, but you still have earthquakes to contend with....and they get a few from time to time.
And the whole point -- dry ground in CA is not like dry ground in IL.
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As originally posted, I am right on the edge of the planned cutoff area. Last night power was shutoff around me, but, fortunately, not my neighborhood. At least so far. However, people are really upset at PG&E’s new preemptive strategy. I suspect they adopted this strategy as a way to force concessions since they are being sued for all the deaths they have caused over the last few years from the fires their equipment has started.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Well, in other parts of the country, the local power companies will institute rolling blackouts during periods of peak demand
PVs/wind plus a Tesla PowerWall looks better and better all the time.
Our 5.4 ish kW worth of PVs are, unfortunately, useless to us if the grid's out.
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As originally posted, I am right on the edge of the planned cutoff area. Last night power was shutoff around me, but, fortunately, not my neighborhood. At least so far. However, people are really upset at PG&E’s new preemptive strategy. I suspect they adopted this strategy as a way to force concessions since they are being sued for all the deaths they have caused over the last few years from the fires their equipment has started.
I'd be angry to, however as someone in the horrible insurance field, I'd say you hit it on the nose.
They are trying to negate their future risks, and given past history, likely a smart move on their part. It also has a bonus of making people actually feel the consequences of the changes that are having to be made as a result of the lawsuits, rather than just talk about them in the abstract.Individual speaking aloud: Its horrible 86 people lost their lives, that company should go under...... WAIT A MINUTE, what do you mean I wont have power for 5 days, thats inconcieveable...how dare they.......
For them (as a company, ignoring the human factor), its a win-win.
I'd be surprised if other electric companies in CA dont follow their example in the near future.
And again, I'm speaking solely from the "business/risk management" perspective."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
I read somewhere that standby generators aren't allowed in CA... Is that BS?My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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Mikey081057 wrote: »I read somewhere that standby generators aren't allowed in CA... Is that BS?
They have to be CARB [CA Air Resources Board] compliant, but they exist & are available.
Here's an example, from good ol' Horrible Freight, no less
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You can either use the timber to employ people, build things, properly clear land, OR you can let it become a wildfire from hell and no one benefits, people die, and lives are ruined. Which approach TRULY helps the environment? Cali will never learn, they're too busy being re-elected.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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mhardy6647 wrote: »
And the whole point -- dry ground in CA is not like dry ground in IL.
A hot dry wind could also cause "static" electricity blowing over the wires that could possibly cause an arc to go to ground by way of tree or brush I'm surmising here.
I mean after all it does it in warm moist air of a thunderstorm
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It's not a lot but we got our first snow. 80 degrees yesterday, 23 degrees right now.
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Apparently, it’s still under discussion for high risk areas, but who knows if it’s really feasible.
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Lots of Californias moving here to AZ in troves as well. Same with Austin TX.
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Lot's of good points of view here.
I've lived in SoCal all my life, High Santa Anna winds are nothing new. The house I grew up in we had to board up the east windows at least twice a year so they wouldn't get blown out. So these wind event are nothing new but we never had big fires started by them till recently. What has changed?
I have friends that live in the back country of San Diego county. They have generators, as soon as the power goes out it auto goes on and runs off the propane tank. Like $5k for the setup but well worth it. Big problem they have had is getting permits to clear their land. Over 100' from the home requires a permit which is costly and hard to get. Most people do it anyway better to pay a fine then loose a home. 100' from the home is not enough for a wind driven fire.
A lot I can rant about but I don't want to be banned.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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Tried to go to the grocery store not far from here. However, a bit down the road power is still off and I didn’t feel like dealing with traffic issues on the way there, assuming Safeway is even open. I can’t believe my neighborhood still has power. Hope my luck extends to the lottery Saturday night. Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Mikey081057 wrote: »I read somewhere that standby generators aren't allowed in CA... Is that BS?
I wonder if they let ya EAT BABIES!
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@BlueFox did you notice higher levels of performance in your system due to so much of the grid being turned off?
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Good question, but no idea. I only listen to my stereo on Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday nights.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Well that doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
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Could be the only days he could get a permit to suck all that power off the grid.
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Well that doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
I only listen to my stereo for 10.345 minutes every 4th day of the lunar cycle BUT only whenever it is the winter solstice on a leap year....nah mean?
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Well that doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
ummm have you met Bud ?? Through all the suds and fog It might be hard for him to tell
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I only listen to my stereo when I can spend 6-8 hours, or more, of dedicated listening time. I turn it on in the morning so it will be warmed up when I start around 6 PM. When I was working I only listened Friday/Saturday night. Now that I am retired I added Tuesday night to the mix. If you have a problem with that then too bad.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Just having some fun Bud, Russ hasn't been around sooooo...
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No problem. I was talking to others.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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No problem. I was talking to others.
You've been fiesty lately.
Glad you werent without power though, I'd hate to be in that position.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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That would irritate me.
On a serious note, PG&E has made a lot of people really mad with their preemptive shutdowns. We will see if anything results from the anger.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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5 days is pretty crazy. A generator is one of those purchases that IMO, has justification to sit in a corner of a garage or shed unused for a year or 2. This is without questioning if it was "worth the purchase because we don't use it."....it just gets a free pass.
I've preached that to a few relatives that have had to dump the contents of their fridge a couple times a year. -
mhardy6647 wrote: »
And the whole point -- dry ground in CA is not like dry ground in IL.
Yes, that is the point, so should those lines be held to a more stringent and secure tower than the Midwest....or less ?
...and because the ground is drier, should the forest floors be cleaned up a little better, or not ?
2 common sense things that can be done without having to invest hundreds of billions of dollars.HT SYSTEM-
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Yes, that is the point, so should those lines be held to a more stringent and secure tower than the Midwest....or less ?
...and because the ground is drier, should the forest floors be cleaned up a little better, or not ?
2 common sense things that can be done without having to invest hundreds of billions of dollars.
This is California you're talking about. To clear land and upgrade power lines will require permits and environmental review. Once all that is done then someone will sue to stop it.
SDG&E was going to install a underground line from AZ to San Diego after all the court battles they put it in above ground.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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well its on fire anyway
