Thx for the pic Drew. I am not sure if it was a component mismatch or they didn't have something dialed in right. A lot of reviews i read said amazing bass and clarity from them but at Axpona, they were bright. Bass, yes 0 complaints there. Solid bass.
Now i am not saying they are bad speakers. We heard with our own ears the LSA towers sound great on a class d SS amp in Walter's room and complete garbage in another room. I am still wondering if i made a mistake passing on the show demo special of 2500 on the lsa but after we heard them in the black ice room, i couldn't pull the trigger.
Back to the Goldenear. I have no idea how much power the tube amps had he was running or of they were stock tubes. They just might be like the LSA where they sound better on SS.
@hochpt21 has the t 2's and loves them. I heard the lsim705 and.... shoot i cannot remember the model i picked up for you but from that, i have an idea of what his ears like. I cannot imagine the goldenear would sound like that in his home and he would be ok with that.
I would personally would give them another shot in a better environment and a better matched amp.
@erniejade it was the LS90's you picked up for me (and we rattled the decoration off the wall and laughed our a$$es off...)
Regarding part of your comment above...I will say that I regret selling my McCormack. The sound to me is still really good with the Rogue, but doesn't quite have the magic that the Dared and the McCormack had together with the Triton's.
That said, I do prefer a slightly brighter/forward presentation. So that may ring true to your feeling that the Triton's are bright. I have never been to an audio show, but I can see how played loudly, with music meant to showcase the different capabilities of the speaker, that the clean/forward presentation might be abrasive.
__________________________________________________ 2 Channel
Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
__________________________________________________ 7.1 Home Theater
Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
__________________________________________________ Man Cave
Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
CD: Cambridge Audio
Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
__________________________________________________
Soon after getting my SDA 2B TLs approx. 6 years ago, someone on here posted about Caverna Magica being one of the best albums to hear/feel the SDA effect. Soon thereafter I found 2 used copies of that lp at my local record shop - I kept one for myself and sold the other copy in the Flea Market at cost. That music really does show off the SDA imaging and soundstage tremendously well. Highly recommended.
I just ordered 3 Andrea's Vollenweider CDs, along with Massive Attack Mezzanine. I heard these albums at the show last year and this year just cant recall which rooms they were being played in.
I'm glad you guys brought this subject up as I Should have them in the next few days. Demo material for sure cant wait to hear them on the 2.3tls. That first track off that Mezzanine album is definitely was enjoyable I think they were playing that in the KEF room.
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Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
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JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin
Something positive that I keep thinking about from the show, is the experience I had on Friday when I walked up to the Cardas booth in the exhibit hall.
So anyone have any thoughts on whether or not I should buy those Cardas IEMs?
I kinda got in trouble with Herb Reichert. He is sleeping next door and I was a bit too loud last night. Oops.
He gave me a 10:00 curfew tonight.
Looks like they sent out a special email for Herb regarding room reservations for next year.
From Lou Mancini:
"Sound & Audio Notice
Please keep in mind that as the host hotel of the AXPONA event, this is a 24-hour audio file show & music may be played throughout late hours.
As the hotel does the best to accommodate guest requests, it is impossible for all guests to be placed on non-exhibit floors. There is a good chance you will be on an exhibiting floor where there is ongoing noise and action. If this is a problem please consider another hotel property AXPONA offers."
@verb This was the Infected Mushroom song that Parasound played on the JC5 / S400 combo to close out day 2:
Definitely ate some very bad mushrooms........💩
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I got a e-mail from one of the Parasound reps yesterday that they got the XL size T-shirts back in stock and they will be sending one my way. What a company, proud to own some of their gear.
I could of had multiple Emotiva shirt's as they were practically begging you to take them but never took one they were making it to easy. I will visit thier room wearing my Parasound Shirt next year.
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Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable
2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin
I got a e-mail from one of the Parasound reps yesterday that they got the XL size T-shirts back in stock and they will be sending one my way. What a company, proud to own some of their gear.
I could of had multiple Emotiva shirt's as they were practically begging you to take them but never took one they were making it to easy. I will visit thier room wearing my Parasound Shirt next year.
Difference between a painting shirt and hang out with people shirt 😉
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
I did realize that after but a moment's reflection.
I'd like to hear a pair; based on everything I've read about them, I'd expect to like them.
Too expensive for me to buy without an audition, though (FWIW).
Just thought I would throw this out there. I will be driving up from ATL and if anyone has a need for me to bring anything up from this area for them , PM me. Otherwise bring on the wise cracks.
Now I’m glad we didn’t meet for lunch at Matthews Cafeteria.
Why is that Warren?
I'm to old for crass, I didn’t earn it.
Some final words,
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren
Just thought I would throw this out there. I will be driving up from ATL and if anyone has a need for me to bring anything up from this area for them , PM me. Otherwise bring on the wise cracks.
Now I’m glad we didn’t meet for lunch at Matthews Cafeteria.
Why is that Warren?
I'm to old for class, I didn’t earn it.
Fixed it for you.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
I should have said Devore Oranutans as I heard they were at Axpona
@joecoulson wasn't this the room that every time we were going to walk in to check it out we gave pause because the bass sounded so unnatural and boomey?
Just thought I would throw this out there. I will be driving up from ATL and if anyone has a need for me to bring anything up from this area for them , PM me. Otherwise bring on the wise cracks.
Now I’m glad we didn’t meet for lunch at Matthews Cafeteria.
Why is that Warren?
I'm to old for crass, I didn’t earn it.
If you would care to explain exactly what you are talking about, I might be able to own up to it. As of right now you seem very much like someone acting their age
I had a more focused, more subdued AXPONA experience this year. I did not repeat the all-day, 3-day schedule I followed last year. This year I only attended for a few hours each day on Friday and Saturday. The rest of the time I was hanging out with friends in the area. I lived and worked in Lisle, Illinois for a while. I doubt that I will attend the 2020 AXPONA show. I will probably do a couple of the regional shows instead.
This year I focused on:
1. Sonus faber speakers.
2. Focal speakers.
3. PS Audio electronics and the new AN-3 speaker.
4. Legacy speakers.
5. Western Electric tube electronics.
1. Sonus faber
Figure 1. The Aida IIs ($130,000) were, for me, the highlight of last year's show. I spent many enjoyable hours listening to them. This year, the Aidas were not set up properly. There was a high frequency harshness on most music that made them uncomfortable to listen to. I don't know if this was due to system synergy, room placement, or both. They were placed much closer to the rear wall than last year. I was glad to see/hear them driven by a pair of 1250 watt McIntosh solid state amps. The tactile sensation and bass speed and articulation that was missing last year was there in spades this year. But that hot, hot, hot top end was an ear driller. In spite of the poor setup this year, the Aida's are still my favorite conventional speaker.
Figure 2. Sonus faber Il Cremonese speakers ($45,000). These were set up with an all-McInosh system in a lobby area outside of four other listening rooms! Still, in spite of the harsh environment, the Il Cremoneses rose above the din and impressed me with their speed, articulation, tactile sensation, clarity and detail. Hopefully, I'll get to hear them one day without all the background crowd noise.
Figure 3. Sonus faber Amati Tradition speakers ($29,000). This was my favorite exhibit sound quality-wise.
2. Focal
Figure 4. I finally heard the Grande Utopia EM EVO speakers ($120,000). I was underwhelmed. I kept thinking "this sounds a lot like my office rig". Beautiful speakers though.
3. PS Audio
Figure 5. An all-PS Audio system...preamp, monoblock tube power amps, DAC, and the new PS Audio AN-3 speakers ($15,000). This was my third favorite exhibit. I also had the opportunity to meet and chat with PS Audio CEO Paul McGowan and PS Audio's DAC designer Ted Smith.
Figure 6. PS Audio's new Obsidian Ted Smith Signature DAC ($20,00), to be released late 2019. They are entering dCS territory price and size-wise.
4. Legacy Audio
Figure 7. When my ears weren't being soothed by the sounds of Sonus faber, they were most often being soothed by the sounds of Legacy Audio. Shown here is the V speaker ($50,000).
5. Western Electric
Figure 8. Gauder Akustik Berlina RC-7 speakers ($42,900) being driven by a prototype Western Electric 91E integrated amplifier ($9,995) with a Western Electric 203-C CD player ($6,195). Very impressive bass rendering.
Figure 9. Western Electric 91E integrated amplifier.
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@erniejade it was the LS90's you picked up for me (and we rattled the decoration off the wall and laughed our a$$es off...)
Regarding part of your comment above...I will say that I regret selling my McCormack. The sound to me is still really good with the Rogue, but doesn't quite have the magic that the Dared and the McCormack had together with the Triton's.
That said, I do prefer a slightly brighter/forward presentation. So that may ring true to your feeling that the Triton's are bright. I have never been to an audio show, but I can see how played loudly, with music meant to showcase the different capabilities of the speaker, that the clean/forward presentation might be abrasive.
2 Channel
Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
Amplification - Parks Audio Budgie, Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 Deluxe
Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
__________________________________________________
7.1 Home Theater
Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"
__________________________________________________
Man Cave
Turntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold
Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
CD: Cambridge Audio
Speakers - LSiM 703; SDA 2A; Epos Epic 2
__________________________________________________
Just bought one!
Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated,Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer,Rotel RCD-1072 CD player,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers,Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
I am curious to give this a listen as well. Purchased the CD to see if it is something I will enjoy.
Pre:Bryston BP173
Amp:Bryston 14B3
Speakers: Golden Ear Triton Reference
Source: Oppo UDP-205, Bryston BDA-3, Bryston BDP-3, Bryston BCD-3, Apple TV, Amazon Fire
Cables: Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 Speaker, Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 XLR, AQ Diamond USB/HDMI
Power: PS Audio P10 Regenerator, AC12, AC10 and AC5 Cables
Display: Sony XBR65-Z9F
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Pre: Yamaha CX-A5100
Amp: Parasound JC5, A31, A51
Speakers: Polk LSiM 707 (FL/FR), Polk LSiM706 (Center), LSiM 703 (SL/SR), Polk 900-LS (Atmos)
Subwoofers: SVS SB13 x 4
Source: Oppo UDP-205, Apple TV, Amazon Fire
Cables: AQ Rocket 88, AQ Niagara, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7
Power: PS Audio P5 Regenerator, Furman IT Reference 15i, Pangea AC14SE and AC9SE Cables
Display: Sony XBR75X940D
I'm glad you guys brought this subject up as I Should have them in the next few days. Demo material for sure cant wait to hear them on the 2.3tls. That first track off that Mezzanine album is definitely was enjoyable I think they were playing that in the KEF room.
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2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin
Mezzanine is awesome
this is the one speaker I could someday buy without ever hearing & after everything I've ever heard or read about them!
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated,Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer,Rotel RCD-1072 CD player,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers,Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated,Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer,Rotel RCD-1072 CD player,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers,Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
So anyone have any thoughts on whether or not I should buy those Cardas IEMs?
Looks like they sent out a special email for Herb regarding room reservations for next year.
From Lou Mancini:
"Sound & Audio Notice
Please keep in mind that as the host hotel of the AXPONA event, this is a 24-hour audio file show & music may be played throughout late hours.
As the hotel does the best to accommodate guest requests, it is impossible for all guests to be placed on non-exhibit floors. There is a good chance you will be on an exhibiting floor where there is ongoing noise and action. If this is a problem please consider another hotel property AXPONA offers."
Definitely ate some very bad mushrooms........💩
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
I had to read this twice to realize you weren't talking about yet another New Age vinyl LP or maybe something from Diane Fossey's record label.
I could of had multiple Emotiva shirt's as they were practically begging you to take them but never took one they were making it to easy. I will visit thier room wearing my Parasound Shirt next year.
Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable
2 Channel
Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+
Stuff for the Head
JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365
Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin
Difference between a painting shirt and hang out with people shirt 😉
I should have said Devore Oranutans as I heard they were at Axpona
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
I'd like to hear a pair; based on everything I've read about them, I'd expect to like them.
Too expensive for me to buy without an audition, though (FWIW).
I'm to old for crass, I didn’t earn it.
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren
Fixed it for you.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
@joecoulson wasn't this the room that every time we were going to walk in to check it out we gave pause because the bass sounded so unnatural and boomey?
If you would care to explain exactly what you are talking about, I might be able to own up to it. As of right now you seem very much like someone acting their age
This year I focused on:
1. Sonus faber speakers.
2. Focal speakers.
3. PS Audio electronics and the new AN-3 speaker.
4. Legacy speakers.
5. Western Electric tube electronics.
1. Sonus faber
Figure 1. The Aida IIs ($130,000) were, for me, the highlight of last year's show. I spent many enjoyable hours listening to them. This year, the Aidas were not set up properly. There was a high frequency harshness on most music that made them uncomfortable to listen to. I don't know if this was due to system synergy, room placement, or both. They were placed much closer to the rear wall than last year. I was glad to see/hear them driven by a pair of 1250 watt McIntosh solid state amps. The tactile sensation and bass speed and articulation that was missing last year was there in spades this year. But that hot, hot, hot top end was an ear driller. In spite of the poor setup this year, the Aida's are still my favorite conventional speaker.
Figure 2. Sonus faber Il Cremonese speakers ($45,000). These were set up with an all-McInosh system in a lobby area outside of four other listening rooms! Still, in spite of the harsh environment, the Il Cremoneses rose above the din and impressed me with their speed, articulation, tactile sensation, clarity and detail. Hopefully, I'll get to hear them one day without all the background crowd noise.
Figure 3. Sonus faber Amati Tradition speakers ($29,000). This was my favorite exhibit sound quality-wise.
2. Focal
Figure 4. I finally heard the Grande Utopia EM EVO speakers ($120,000). I was underwhelmed. I kept thinking "this sounds a lot like my office rig". Beautiful speakers though.
3. PS Audio
Figure 5. An all-PS Audio system...preamp, monoblock tube power amps, DAC, and the new PS Audio AN-3 speakers ($15,000). This was my third favorite exhibit. I also had the opportunity to meet and chat with PS Audio CEO Paul McGowan and PS Audio's DAC designer Ted Smith.
Figure 6. PS Audio's new Obsidian Ted Smith Signature DAC ($20,00), to be released late 2019. They are entering dCS territory price and size-wise.
4. Legacy Audio
Figure 7. When my ears weren't being soothed by the sounds of Sonus faber, they were most often being soothed by the sounds of Legacy Audio. Shown here is the V speaker ($50,000).
5. Western Electric
Figure 8. Gauder Akustik Berlina RC-7 speakers ($42,900) being driven by a prototype Western Electric 91E integrated amplifier ($9,995) with a Western Electric 203-C CD player ($6,195). Very impressive bass rendering.
Figure 9. Western Electric 91E integrated amplifier.
"Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
"Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
"Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK