And so it begins, the end of Sears

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  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,432
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I think the retail business (businesses -- K-Mart, too) are finished.
    The parade passed them by, two decades ago (at least).

    meanwhile, a reminder of happier times.

    http://www.wishbookweb.com/the-catalogs/


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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,966
    ...
    ... with Santa Clause on the top floor of their store in downtown St. Paul.
    Did you type that just to give @Viking64 something to do?

    :|

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,439
    Sears was great but not sure if any of you had the store Service Merchandise in your neighborhood growing up, but their electronics Dept was the Bomb!!
    Then after you ordered, you would wait at the end of the carousel rollers to get your “widget”
    Happy memories.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,966
    Service Merchandise was one of a number of weird catalog stores with (ostensibly) limited membership, big catalogs, name brands, good prices, and weird models for customers. You didn't pick up your merchandise, you picked it out, then waited - as per the description above - for it to come to you.

    In Baltimore, there was one called W. Bell & Company. There was also a similar store called "Best", with a huge catalog. There were others, too, I am pretty sure.

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,438
    Todays no different Doc. You pick out your stuff and wait for it to be delivered.....by Amazon.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,439
    tonyb wrote: »
    Todays no different Doc. You pick out your stuff and wait for it to be delivered.....by Amazon.

    So true
    I do miss showrooms though. Nothing in the middle anymore. Either stupid high end where you almost need a ticket to enter the showroom (electronics) or big box which is the worst way to showcase that type of gear.
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  • JstasJstas Posts: 13,786
    cfrizz wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but it's JUST a store, plenty have come and gone and they should have been allowed to die a loooong time ago. That's just life, adapt or die. Just ask Woolworths, Kennedys, Zayres.

    Stop living in the past wishing for the good old days which weren't that good and focus on the future. Otherwise, you will end up just as useless and irrelevant as the above stores.

    LOL! Irrelevant...whatever.

    No, dear, I'm not living in the past wishing for the good ole days.

    I was, quite literally, in a Sears the weekend before last getting parts for my Craftsman lawn tractor and I picked up a new attachment for my Craftsman weedwhacker.

    Not having Sears is seriously going to suck.

    I can only hope that the website still survives. Kmart can go the way of the dodo for all I care. Hated that place. Sears, though, it's going to get much harder to source repair parts and product info/manuals if Sears goes completely solvent. I won't be able to easily repair my equipment without access to the Sears parts department. That's a significant cost change for me if I have to start replacing stuff that's broken because I can't get a repair part for it anymore.
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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,586
    Sears didn't MAKE anything they just had their name on it ... So finding parts for your SEARS stuff won;t be hard... once you figure out who the REAL MANUFACTURER is.

    https://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/lmfaq/lmwmmwbn.htm
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,966
    joecoulson wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Todays no different Doc. You pick out your stuff and wait for it to be delivered.....by Amazon.

    So true
    I do miss showrooms though. Nothing in the middle anymore. Either stupid high end where you almost need a ticket to enter the showroom (electronics) or big box which is the worst way to showcase that type of gear.

    The new Amazon stores are probably (OK, possibly ;) ) the vanguard of the 21st century version of the showroom. There are also these pop-up stores that are showrooms with no "cash and carry" products -- just augmented internet purchasing. This may become a thing... we'll see.

    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/10/04/wayfair-pop-up-shop-natick-mall-store/
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited October 2018
    Someone will pick up the rights to sell Crafstman repair parts. It's too lucrative for it to just fall by the wayside. I bought most of my outdoor products from Sears as well as indoor appliances. At the time, with the discounts and incentives, they had the best prices on Kenmore/Craftsman products. This was before they sold off the brand.

    My lawn mower is a Craftsman w/Honda engine. It was a 25% less of the cost of the full Honda mower and it's been going strong for 6 years.

    I will be sorry to see them go. But I will say, I bought all my recent stuff on-line and either had it delivered or I went and picked it up. Prices, incentives, etc are better on-line than in the showroom.

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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,586
    Lowes already has Craftsman tools
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    One thing I will miss, is the Sears at our Mall has a small engine repair shop. Lowes, Home Depot, etc all send their stuff out for repair. The Sears here actually gets the parts and repairs on site.

    Sure, there are independent's in town that do small engine repair.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,586
    edited October 2018
    If you know a manufacturer's part number for virtually any lawn/garden tool or appliance you can enter it in the search on Amazon and if it's available just 1 click and it's on it's way.

    Find , copy , paste, click, done.

    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,438
    Find , copy , paste, click, done.

    Probably also how you'll choose a mate in the near future. :D
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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,586
    That will also require an UNDO button!
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • Sears was once known for having a good mix of quality merchandise. They basically screwed that up in the early 90's by switching to extremely cheap, low quality stuff, but with a lifetime warranty. A warranty doesn't ensure you're getting a good deal so I and many others stayed away from Sears. Other outlets like Lowes and Home Depot started eating their lunch with better products. Sears, unfortunately, caught on too late.

    The seeds of Sears demise were planted decades ago.
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,233
    edited October 2018
    We had a Sears and a Service Merchandise in the same shopping center. Now there's a T.J. Maxx where Service Merchandise was, a grocery store where Sears was, and a Buffalo Wilds Wings where the Sears Automotive Center was.

    Coincidentally, Tony, the salesman at Creative Sound that sold me my 2.3TLs in 1992, left and got a job at that same Sears Automotive Center a few years later.

    I got my first job 2 weeks after I turned 16 and I bought a set of Craftsman tools with my first paycheck. I think it was $19.99 and it had 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" ratchets and sockets, extensions, universals, combination wrenches, allen wrenches, ignition wrenches (remember those?), and quite a few other bits and pieces. I bought a screwdriver set to go with it within a month or so. Metric? That was something someone mentioned in school a few times. :p
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,233
    edited October 2018
    tonyb wrote: »
    Probably also how you'll choose a mate in the near future. :D

  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,586
    edited October 2018
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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,285
    edited October 2018
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,438
    Man Mikey, dump some booze in that coffee or somethin'. :)
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,309
    Lowes already has Craftsman tools

    As well as Farm & Fleet and many many more stores. No more lifetime guarantee on them from what i hear.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,966
    Lowes already has Craftsman tools

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sears-sells-craftsman-brand-for-900-million-2017-1

    Sears sold the brand to Stanley Black & Decker in early 2017.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,613
    My Sears had a candy counter. I just remebered that. My mom used to buy candy everytime we went there. She would get some nasty carp that no one would eat but her. All this time I thought that I hated Sears...
  • sucks2bemesucks2beme Posts: 4,884
    edited October 2018
    I remember the Montgomery Ward Xmas book real well.
    We didn't get the Sears one until I was older. All the stuff
    you'd never see in person out in the boonies.
    When I started working and had a bit of money, the 1st thing I did was buy
    one of those Craftsman tool sets. I was sick of busted knuckles from cheap
    tools breaking. The old man had nothing but the cheap stuff.
    I still have those tools today. I've added to it from Craftsman,
    Snap-on, and MAC, but the bulk of it is still Craftsman.
    The only stuff I ever broke was stuff I was abusing. Broken screwdriver tips,
    1/4 rachets, and a couple 1/4 sockets with a mini breaker bar and a pipe for
    those tight places. I've lost more than I've broken by far.
    There were a few pawn shops in Dallas with cheap socket bins.
    I used replace lost ones and bought a few spares of popular sizes
    for 25-50 cents apiece. Those places are few and far between now.
    God, I hate Amazon. I go out of my way to order stuff direct from
    other websites.


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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 5,082
    In the 80s, I worked at a local small business that sold power equipment and parts. The parts business was very popular, as it was the only place around that stocked a lot of items. We had cross reference charts on microfiche for most any brand you could think of, including Craftsman. Our stuff just had the OEM part number, instead of Sears.
  • verbverb Posts: 7,645
    Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,632
    verb wrote: »
    Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
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    verb wrote: »
    Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
    69t0ano5vdcx.png

    My dad bought his first tool set at Sears as well. I’m not sure if he still has it, I’d have to ask him. :)
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    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,302
    I still have my Craftsman socket set, toolbox and a multitude of mini sets of screwdrivers and other drill bit sets. Pliers and adjustable wrench sets too. Wet Vacs too. Saws from hand saw to saws-all. Angled drills and reg. corded ones too. table saw, ( I had a Craftsman band saw but sold it after I bought a great older beautiful Delta band saw ). I still have my old miter saw too. But I also have a Porter Cable and 12" Dewalt miter saws now also.

    Craftsman levels and hammers too. They were made very well for years.

    I love Craftsman tools! Can you tell? :D
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,632
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
    69t0ano5vdcx.png
    verb wrote: »
    Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
    69t0ano5vdcx.png

    My dad bought his first tool set at Sears as well. I’m not sure if he still has it, I’d have to ask him. :)

    He does still have it, although he doesn’t know where it is. If he finds it, I’ll post pics.
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    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.

    Resident Child of Club Polk
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