And so it begins, the end of Sears
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joecoulson wrote: »Todays no different Doc. You pick out your stuff and wait for it to be delivered.....by Amazon.
So true
I do miss showrooms though. Nothing in the middle anymore. Either stupid high end where you almost need a ticket to enter the showroom (electronics) or big box which is the worst way to showcase that type of gear.
The new Amazon stores are probably (OK, possibly ) the vanguard of the 21st century version of the showroom. There are also these pop-up stores that are showrooms with no "cash and carry" products -- just augmented internet purchasing. This may become a thing... we'll see.
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/10/04/wayfair-pop-up-shop-natick-mall-store/ -
Someone will pick up the rights to sell Crafstman repair parts. It's too lucrative for it to just fall by the wayside. I bought most of my outdoor products from Sears as well as indoor appliances. At the time, with the discounts and incentives, they had the best prices on Kenmore/Craftsman products. This was before they sold off the brand.
My lawn mower is a Craftsman w/Honda engine. It was a 25% less of the cost of the full Honda mower and it's been going strong for 6 years.
I will be sorry to see them go. But I will say, I bought all my recent stuff on-line and either had it delivered or I went and picked it up. Prices, incentives, etc are better on-line than in the showroom.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Lowes already has Craftsman toolsMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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One thing I will miss, is the Sears at our Mall has a small engine repair shop. Lowes, Home Depot, etc all send their stuff out for repair. The Sears here actually gets the parts and repairs on site.
Sure, there are independent's in town that do small engine repair.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
If you know a manufacturer's part number for virtually any lawn/garden tool or appliance you can enter it in the search on Amazon and if it's available just 1 click and it's on it's way.
Find , copy , paste, click, done.
My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Mikey081057 wrote: »Find , copy , paste, click, done.
Probably also how you'll choose a mate in the near future.HT SYSTEM-
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That will also require an UNDO button!My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Sears was once known for having a good mix of quality merchandise. They basically screwed that up in the early 90's by switching to extremely cheap, low quality stuff, but with a lifetime warranty. A warranty doesn't ensure you're getting a good deal so I and many others stayed away from Sears. Other outlets like Lowes and Home Depot started eating their lunch with better products. Sears, unfortunately, caught on too late.
The seeds of Sears demise were planted decades ago. -
We had a Sears and a Service Merchandise in the same shopping center. Now there's a T.J. Maxx where Service Merchandise was, a grocery store where Sears was, and a Buffalo Wilds Wings where the Sears Automotive Center was.
Coincidentally, Tony, the salesman at Creative Sound that sold me my 2.3TLs in 1992, left and got a job at that same Sears Automotive Center a few years later.
I got my first job 2 weeks after I turned 16 and I bought a set of Craftsman tools with my first paycheck. I think it was $19.99 and it had 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" ratchets and sockets, extensions, universals, combination wrenches, allen wrenches, ignition wrenches (remember those?), and quite a few other bits and pieces. I bought a screwdriver set to go with it within a month or so. Metric? That was something someone mentioned in school a few times. -
Probably also how you'll choose a mate in the near future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSqLfuRN18 -
DeletedMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
deletedThe best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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Man Mikey, dump some booze in that coffee or somethin'.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Mikey081057 wrote: »Lowes already has Craftsman tools
As well as Farm & Fleet and many many more stores. No more lifetime guarantee on them from what i hear. -
Mikey081057 wrote: »Lowes already has Craftsman tools
https://www.businessinsider.com/sears-sells-craftsman-brand-for-900-million-2017-1
Sears sold the brand to Stanley Black & Decker in early 2017.
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My Sears had a candy counter. I just remebered that. My mom used to buy candy everytime we went there. She would get some nasty carp that no one would eat but her. All this time I thought that I hated Sears...
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I remember the Montgomery Ward Xmas book real well.
We didn't get the Sears one until I was older. All the stuff
you'd never see in person out in the boonies.
When I started working and had a bit of money, the 1st thing I did was buy
one of those Craftsman tool sets. I was sick of busted knuckles from cheap
tools breaking. The old man had nothing but the cheap stuff.
I still have those tools today. I've added to it from Craftsman,
Snap-on, and MAC, but the bulk of it is still Craftsman.
The only stuff I ever broke was stuff I was abusing. Broken screwdriver tips,
1/4 rachets, and a couple 1/4 sockets with a mini breaker bar and a pipe for
those tight places. I've lost more than I've broken by far.
There were a few pawn shops in Dallas with cheap socket bins.
I used replace lost ones and bought a few spares of popular sizes
for 25-50 cents apiece. Those places are few and far between now.
God, I hate Amazon. I go out of my way to order stuff direct from
other websites.
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In the 80s, I worked at a local small business that sold power equipment and parts. The parts business was very popular, as it was the only place around that stocked a lot of items. We had cross reference charts on microfiche for most any brand you could think of, including Craftsman. Our stuff just had the OEM part number, instead of Sears.
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Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
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Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
My dad bought his first tool set at Sears as well. I’m not sure if he still has it, I’d have to ask him. -
I still have my Craftsman socket set, toolbox and a multitude of mini sets of screwdrivers and other drill bit sets. Pliers and adjustable wrench sets too. Wet Vacs too. Saws from hand saw to saws-all. Angled drills and reg. corded ones too. table saw, ( I had a Craftsman band saw but sold it after I bought a great older beautiful Delta band saw ). I still have my old miter saw too. But I also have a Porter Cable and 12" Dewalt miter saws now also.
Craftsman levels and hammers too. They were made very well for years.
I love Craftsman tools! Can you tell?Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
mlistens03 wrote: »Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
My dad bought his first tool set at Sears as well. I’m not sure if he still has it, I’d have to ask him.
He does still have it, although he doesn’t know where it is. If he finds it, I’ll post pics. -
mlistens03 wrote: »mlistens03 wrote: »Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.Very cool about how many of us young men at the time purchased a Craftsman tool set. As many of you do, I still have mine! Stock photo.
My dad bought his first tool set at Sears as well. I’m not sure if he still has it, I’d have to ask him.
He does still have it, although he doesn’t know where it is. If he finds it, I’ll post pics.
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Had an Ardan's store in early 70's, then came Service Merchandise. Wards closed long ago. Still have an open J.C. Penney's, Sears, Dillard's, Von Maur, K-Mart, Target, Shopko, Kohl's, Wal-Mart. I worked at a W.T. Grant Co. store in 1970, they paid you every Friday, in cash!
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aprazer402 wrote: »Had an Ardan's store in early 70's, then came Service Merchandise. Wards closed long ago. Still have an open J.C. Penney's, Sears, Dillard's, Von Maur, K-Mart, Target, Shopko, Kohl's, Wal-Mart. I worked at a W.T. Grant Co. store in 1970, they paid you every Friday, in cash!
We had a Grants that closed around 1975 and became a Service Merchandise. We had a Mammoth Mart that closed around the same time and became a K-Mart, which closed 3 or 4 years ago.
We had a Zayre that sat all by itself until 1978 when an indoor mall was built around it. Zayre eventually closed and was replaced by Ames, which was then replaced by a JCPenney. We had a Giant store that became an Ames and now it is Lowe's.
Our Sears was closed and moved to the same mall as Zayre and JCPenney. I just heard on the way to the grocery store that this Sears has once again avoided the chopping block and will stay open for now. (142 Sears/K-Mart closings were announced yesterday.)
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aprazer402 wrote: »Had an Ardan's store in early 70's, then came Service Merchandise. Wards closed long ago. Still have an open J.C. Penney's, Sears, Dillard's, Von Maur, K-Mart, Target, Shopko, Kohl's, Wal-Mart. I worked at a W.T. Grant Co. store in 1970, they paid you every Friday, in cash!
We've had Shopko's in Nebr. for maybe 25 years. One of two stores in Omaha closed this summer. Times were tough for them too. The closed store's final sale days when most items were 40% off, several people notice they changed the original prices upward, sometimes over 20%, then reduced them 40%. Not cool! -
aprazer402 wrote: »We've had Shopko's in Nebr. for maybe 25 years. One of two stores in Omaha closed this summer. Times were tough for them too. The closed store's final sale days when most items were 40% off, several people notice they changed the original prices upward, sometimes over 20%, then reduced them 40%. Not cool!
There is a grocery store here that does that every week with their "buy one, get one free" items. Although it is hard to notice because everything is jacked-up to begin with. -
My dad, rest his soul, was a carpenter/cabinetmaker.
I remember, back in the early 70's, him getting this saw. (pic from the web).
Mom fussed at the cost, but the things he made....man.
the boy scouts got new tables at camp.
Father got the church pews repaired as a craftsman would do it.
My high school players got a set of circular stairs for Mame to come down, that were so good they got scarffed by somebody after the play. Rat Bastiges
His grandkids got rocking horses that they will pass on to their childer.
Mom got a set of hand-made kitchen cabinets.
I still have a gathering table he made for me.
And that saw in my shop.
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I have that exact saw too.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.