As far as the vacuum head brush, the felt gets just damp after initiating the vacuum but the dust is left behind. This is dramatically reduced by using the felt brush before the whole cleaning cycle. It means less times I need to remove the vacuum head and wipe/clean it.
I'm not quote clear on this bit quoted above. Can you clarify?
Yes
Before I clean the record with the fluid/goat hair brush/vacuum, I use one of these brushes:
To clean off loose dirt. This helps to keep larger debris out of the vacuum felt head.
Make sense?
My preference is Mofi brushes. To satisfy OCD I use one for scrub and one for rinse. I also have a couple different vacuum wands for wash vacuum and rinse vacuum. I swap the cork mat for the cleaned side of LP. I use Mofi sleeves.
Before play I do a carbon fiber brush before dropping the needle. I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
I use a Tergitol/distilled mix to clean, distilled to rinse. I'll steam nasty ones, but you gotta be careful and keep moving with the steam or you'll warp the record. Steam won't fix a damaged record though, but it helps moisten and dislodge dried, stuck on biological whatever.
Stanton makes a convex brush with holder. I got this with a purchase but never used it. Unsure if they offer replacement pads like the Mofi's do.
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You say the felt gets damp on the vacuum head, but the dust left behind - you mean on the record, or that it builds up on the vacuum head?
Would the carbon fiber brush sweep help with this?
It helps to reduce build up on the vacuum head. Otherwise if you take a really dirty record, all the dust and dirt goes on the felt of the vacuum head.
I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
Lol. I avoid them at all times. Awful tasting things.
FYI, the original pizza rolls in the 80's were good. I hadn't eaten them since...until about 6 months ago my son had bought a bag...whollytastelikeshlt...yup
My preference is Mofi brushes. To satisfy OCD I use one for scrub and one for rinse. I also have a couple different vacuum wands for wash vacuum and rinse vacuum. I swap the cork mat for the cleaned side of LP. I use Mofi sleeves.
Before play I do a carbon fiber brush before dropping the needle. I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
I use a Tergitol/distilled mix to clean, distilled to rinse. I'll steam nasty ones, but you gotta be careful and keep moving with the steam or you'll warp the record. Steam won't fix a damaged record though, but it helps moisten and dislodge dried, stuck on biological whatever.
Stanton makes a convex brush with holder. I got this with a purchase but never used it. Unsure if they offer replacement pads like the Mofi's do.
That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich!
FYI, the original pizza rolls in the 80's were good. I hadn't eaten them since...until about 6 months ago my son had bought a bag...whollytastelikeshlt...yup
That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich![/quote]
OCD is good for some things.....lol
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To satisfy Rich's OCD I also use one Mofi brush to wash, the other to rinse.
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This thread just reminds me why I don't want to get into vinyl.
I never got out so I didn't have to get back in....
Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
Actually, the financial obligation is what scares me most at this point. I know what it would cost me to feel like I'm playing at the level I should be and that is... insurmountable at this point.
Sweet jebus, how much are you talking about?
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Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
My guess is that if Skip were to venture down the rabbit hole, initial setup would run $20k+
That's a heck of a starter system!
Why not grab a preowned/vintage Technics in decent shape (@mhardy6647 can make a suggestion or may even have a suitable candidate amongst his collection), a Schiit Mani, and a Nagaoka MP-110? That's not expen$ive but it'll sound pretty darn good for a minimum investment.
Still, not a huge investment to get really good quality playback for the investment and a good way for you to see if you really like it (and want to invest the time and energy on a regular basis).
This thread just reminds me why I don't want to get into vinyl.
You are leaving money (a LOT of it) on the table as a hifi dealer by not offering vinyl. The markup on cartridges alone is stupid. Local dealer here told me his margins on turntables and related stuff is much higher than on anything else in his store.
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Fantastic review, my son had this on his I want list and after sending him your review he is ready to pull the trigger...wish the pro reviews were as in depth as yours...
I've logged some time cleaning a few dozen records on Joe's machine, and it works a treat. I had one record that I *thought* had a flaw in the vinyl (was skipping over a groove), but after cleaning with the Okki Nokki, the skip was gone...must have been some debris that I couldn't see with the naked eye.
My thanks to Joe for letting me use so much of his cleaning fluid
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Yes
Before I clean the record with the fluid/goat hair brush/vacuum, I use one of these brushes:
To clean off loose dirt. This helps to keep larger debris out of the vacuum felt head.
Make sense?
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Would the carbon fiber brush sweep help with this?
Before play I do a carbon fiber brush before dropping the needle. I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
I use a Tergitol/distilled mix to clean, distilled to rinse. I'll steam nasty ones, but you gotta be careful and keep moving with the steam or you'll warp the record. Steam won't fix a damaged record though, but it helps moisten and dislodge dried, stuck on biological whatever.
Stanton makes a convex brush with holder. I got this with a purchase but never used it. Unsure if they offer replacement pads like the Mofi's do.
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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Lol. I avoid them at all times. Awful tasting things.
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FYI, the original pizza rolls in the 80's were good. I hadn't eaten them since...until about 6 months ago my son had bought a bag...whollytastelikeshlt...yup
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That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich!
Vinyl: Fluance RT85 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * Z-line Designs Elektra
I agree!
That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich![/quote]
OCD is good for some things.....lol
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To satisfy Rich's OCD I also use one Mofi brush to wash, the other to rinse.
SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Marantz DV-9500 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
Micro Seiki DQ-50 * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
I love being an enabled enabler...
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
I never got out so I didn't have to get back in....
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
In fact, I just showed it to one of my old friends yesterday.
His word...SWEET!
I still have every record I bought or ordered from Columbia house records mail order club.
The good ol' days.
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however I would love to see one of these in your setup:
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Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
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Sweet jebus, how much are you talking about?
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
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That's a heck of a starter system!
Why not grab a preowned/vintage Technics in decent shape (@mhardy6647 can make a suggestion or may even have a suitable candidate amongst his collection), a Schiit Mani, and a Nagaoka MP-110? That's not expen$ive but it'll sound pretty darn good for a minimum investment.
Ya, you'll need something to clean the records (you can start with a Spin Clean), store the records (Mofi sleeves), a brush to wipe the records before play (Hunt EDA), and a stylus cleaner for before and after play (Mr. Clean Magic Eraser, or a stylus brush, or some AT liquid cleaner, or the Onzow).
Still, not a huge investment to get really good quality playback for the investment and a good way for you to see if you really like it (and want to invest the time and energy on a regular basis).
Vinyl: Fluance RT85 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * Z-line Designs Elektra
I think my perfect setup would be a VPI scout, Nagaoka mp500 and keep my CA phono pre.
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Before
After
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Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
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You are leaving money (a LOT of it) on the table as a hifi dealer by not offering vinyl. The markup on cartridges alone is stupid. Local dealer here told me his margins on turntables and related stuff is much higher than on anything else in his store.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
Nice review Joe. Enjoy!
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Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics
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I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
My thanks to Joe for letting me use so much of his cleaning fluid
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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