Okki Nokki mk2
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joecoulson wrote: »As far as the vacuum head brush, the felt gets just damp after initiating the vacuum but the dust is left behind. This is dramatically reduced by using the felt brush before the whole cleaning cycle. It means less times I need to remove the vacuum head and wipe/clean it.
I'm not quote clear on this bit quoted above. Can you clarify?
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Before I clean the record with the fluid/goat hair brush/vacuum, I use one of these brushes:
To clean off loose dirt. This helps to keep larger debris out of the vacuum felt head.
Make sense?
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You say the felt gets damp on the vacuum head, but the dust left behind - you mean on the record, or that it builds up on the vacuum head?
Would the carbon fiber brush sweep help with this?I disabled signatures. -
My preference is Mofi brushes. To satisfy OCD I use one for scrub and one for rinse. I also have a couple different vacuum wands for wash vacuum and rinse vacuum. I swap the cork mat for the cleaned side of LP. I use Mofi sleeves.
Before play I do a carbon fiber brush before dropping the needle. I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
I use a Tergitol/distilled mix to clean, distilled to rinse. I'll steam nasty ones, but you gotta be careful and keep moving with the steam or you'll warp the record. Steam won't fix a damaged record though, but it helps moisten and dislodge dried, stuck on biological whatever.
Stanton makes a convex brush with holder. I got this with a purchase but never used it. Unsure if they offer replacement pads like the Mofi's do.
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It helps to reduce build up on the vacuum head. Otherwise if you take a really dirty record, all the dust and dirt goes on the felt of the vacuum head.You say the felt gets damp on the vacuum head, but the dust left behind - you mean on the record, or that it builds up on the vacuum head?
Would the carbon fiber brush sweep help with this?
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SCompRacer wrote: »
I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
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joecoulson wrote: »SCompRacer wrote: »
I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
Lol. I avoid them at all times. Awful tasting things.
FYI, the original pizza rolls in the 80's were good. I hadn't eaten them since...until about 6 months ago my son had bought a bag...whollytastelikeshlt...yupPost edited by [Deleted User] on2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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SCompRacer wrote: »My preference is Mofi brushes. To satisfy OCD I use one for scrub and one for rinse. I also have a couple different vacuum wands for wash vacuum and rinse vacuum. I swap the cork mat for the cleaned side of LP. I use Mofi sleeves.
Before play I do a carbon fiber brush before dropping the needle. I avoid Cheetos and pizza rolls when handling records.
I use a Tergitol/distilled mix to clean, distilled to rinse. I'll steam nasty ones, but you gotta be careful and keep moving with the steam or you'll warp the record. Steam won't fix a damaged record though, but it helps moisten and dislodge dried, stuck on biological whatever.
Stanton makes a convex brush with holder. I got this with a purchase but never used it. Unsure if they offer replacement pads like the Mofi's do.
That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich!Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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txcoastal1 wrote: »
FYI, the original pizza rolls in the 80's were good. I hadn't eaten them since...until about 6 months ago my son had bought a bag...whollytastelikeshlt...yup
I agree!
That's good stuff right there! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Rich![/quote]
OCD is good for some things.....lolSalk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
SCompRacer wrote: »My preference is Mofi brushes. To satisfy OCD I use one for scrub and one for rinse.
To satisfy Rich's OCD I also use one Mofi brush to wash, the other to rinse.Jay
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To satisfy Rich's OCD I also use one Mofi brush to wash, the other to rinse.
I love being an enabled enabler...
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This thread just reminds me why I don't want to get into vinyl.
I never got out so I didn't have to get back in....
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I still have my first turntable installed in a home made upright audio cabinet I built out of solid Clear Fir wood.
In fact, I just showed it to one of my old friends yesterday.
His word...SWEET!
I still have every record I bought or ordered from Columbia house records mail order club.
The good ol' days.
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Give it time. A lot of time! WhewThis thread just reminds me why I don't want to get into vinyl.
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Looking at your sig, I would have to agree with you:
however I would love to see one of these in your setup:
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joecoulson wrote: »(why goat hair?)
14 yr old virgin pubic hair was their first choice but after getting the restraining order, opted for the goat hair
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Uh okki nokki then...
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Actually, the financial obligation is what scares me most at this point. I know what it would cost me to feel like I'm playing at the level I should be and that is... insurmountable at this point.
Sweet jebus, how much are you talking about?
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My guess is that if Skip were to venture down the rabbit hole, initial setup would run $20k+
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joecoulson wrote: »My guess is that if Skip were to venture down the rabbit hole, initial setup would run $20k+
That's a heck of a starter system!
Why not grab a preowned/vintage Technics in decent shape (@mhardy6647 can make a suggestion or may even have a suitable candidate amongst his collection), a Schiit Mani, and a Nagaoka MP-110? That's not expen$ive but it'll sound pretty darn good for a minimum investment.
Ya, you'll need something to clean the records (you can start with a Spin Clean), store the records (Mofi sleeves), a brush to wipe the records before play (Hunt EDA), and a stylus cleaner for before and after play (Mr. Clean Magic Eraser, or a stylus brush, or some AT liquid cleaner, or the Onzow).
Still, not a huge investment to get really good quality playback for the investment and a good way for you to see if you really like it (and want to invest the time and energy on a regular basis).Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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I know we are way off topic, but it’s my thread so fak it.
I think my perfect setup would be a VPI scout, Nagaoka mp500 and keep my CA phono pre. -
So I have to be close to the 500th cleaning for this machine between myself and two others I have let use it. Still does a fantastic job
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Just read this thread. Ugh. Cleaning records! I love vinyl, but am a bit too lazy right now! Great review and update Joe! Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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This thread just reminds me why I don't want to get into vinyl.
You are leaving money (a LOT of it) on the table as a hifi dealer by not offering vinyl. The markup on cartridges alone is stupid. Local dealer here told me his margins on turntables and related stuff is much higher than on anything else in his store.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Every time I heard a snap, crackle or pop at Axpona it made my skin crawl. I’ll stick with digital.
Nice review Joe. Enjoy!
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Pops and clicks don’t bother me. As long as they are not embedded dust. Love me some vinyl. Best sounding format I own.
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There is always the Sugar Cube.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Fantastic review, my son had this on his I want list and after sending him your review he is ready to pull the trigger...wish the pro reviews were as in depth as yours...
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Why Thank You brother
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I've logged some time cleaning a few dozen records on Joe's machine, and it works a treat. I had one record that I *thought* had a flaw in the vinyl (was skipping over a groove), but after cleaning with the Okki Nokki, the skip was gone...must have been some debris that I couldn't see with the naked eye.
My thanks to Joe for letting me use so much of his cleaning fluid "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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Anytime my friend.
