I have two S55's and a sub. IMO they need a sub for music and HT.
Yamaha RX-A2070, B&K 4420 Reference, HSU VTF-2 MK5, LSiM705, LSiM704, Technics PD867, Douglas Connection Alpha 12AWG OCC Speaker Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha Analog Interconnect Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 11 OCC Custom Power Cable, Cullen Gold Power Cable, Signal Power Cables, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Fluance RT85, Parasound Zphono USB Phono Preamp, Sony 65" 900F, Sony UBP-X700, Fios.
^^I concur, I own a pair of the S60's no sub required. This is what my ears hear, YMMV.
2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
My Setup: Onkyo TX-NR787, Polk Signature S60 Fronts w/ S30 Center and S20 Rears and S15 Heights, Sony 4K Player, Sony 65”4k TV
My Folks Setup: Pioneer AVR, Klipsch RP-150M, Sony 3D blue ray player, VIZIO 55" TV.
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
You can get the 55s and keep your sub, or wait and save more money and get the 60s and still keep your sub.
There are not a lot of speakers that can give you all the details of the bass that is playing. Mid range drivers are just that mid range. The speakers will struggle to play the really low notes rendering all the bass kind of muddy. having a sub to take the pressure off of the speakers will give you greater clarity between the mid range and deep bass.
You would also be better off getting a better sub, a sealed box SVS would really take things up a notch both for music and movies.
Don't let the fact that you live in a condo scare you off from getting bigger speakers. It's not about the size of the speakers, it's about YOU being considerate of your neighbors. If you are playing your system during the weekdays turn it down some at 9pm, on weekends make turn it down at 10pm. I live in a condo and that's what I do.
Then again, if you are in one of the newer crappy all wood with no insulation between units condos that they are putting up these days, it won't matter how low the volume is, your neighbors will hear you.
So the same rules apply, just pray you have decent neighbors that won't mind.
Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 ch. 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
We had a party for one of my kids when I first got my S60's. All the hip-hop they were playing was bass heavy so I turned off the sub putting the S60 in full range. They sounded darn good with no sub. a few weeks latter we were watching a movie, oops forgot to turn the sub on.
S60 sound good with no sub, add a sub in the mix and they are an oh yeah speaker.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
Yeah, my system is strictly 2 channel music. Must be my space, as a sub with the S60's would be overkill.
2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
Save a little extra and go for the 60s. You can find good deals if you are patient and shop around. They are a terrific speaker and great for music and ht.
Living Room
Yamaha Aventage RX-A 1060, Parasound P5, Parasound A23, Yamaha BD-S681, Cambridge Audio Azur 851N, Polk S60, Polk S30, Samsung 60" LED
Many thanks to all of you for your insight . I do live in an older condo ( built in the 70s lol) so I assume its well-insulated ( it survived hurricane Irma..so thats sayin’ something Imo ). I saw a really good price on the S55s ( a little over 200 each ) from a reputable online retailer that I’ve purchased items from the past...so I bit the bullet and ordered a pair...couldn’t pass on it. If worse comes to worse, I got 60 days to return if they are not to my liking.
My Setup: Onkyo TX-NR787, Polk Signature S60 Fronts w/ S30 Center and S20 Rears and S15 Heights, Sony 4K Player, Sony 65”4k TV
My Folks Setup: Pioneer AVR, Klipsch RP-150M, Sony 3D blue ray player, VIZIO 55" TV.
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.
There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
Many thanks to all of you for your insight . I do live in an older condo ( built in the 70s lol) so I assume its well-insulated ( it survived hurricane Irma..so thats sayin’ something Imo ). I saw a really good price on the S55s ( a little over 200 each ) from a reputable online retailer that I’ve purchased items from the past...so I bit the bullet and ordered a pair...couldn’t pass on it. If worse comes to worse, I got 60 days to return if they are not to my liking.
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.
There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.
There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...
So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea .
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.
There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...
Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
Interesting. What are you powering with (sorry if you oh alreaud stated)?
My experience, S60's driven with my the Halo A23 (125w) Meh. Same speaker driven with the Anthem 225 integrated (225W).....Yeah.
I am sure it all comes down to the difference in Amperage between the 2 amps.
2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
Interesting. What are you powering with (sorry if you oh alreaud stated)?
Just a standard avr 90per.. The 55s don't need more.. Maybe the 60s do I don't really know.. Thanks for the advice I ordered the Adam hall will see if it makes a difference..
Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
Having different speakers in the same spot and expecting different results may also have been an issue. Speaker placement is a critical step in getting the most out of a pair of speakers as this determines how the speakers interact with your room's acoustic properties.
I don't need to look at anything further I love my speakers.. I have gotten bashed because people think I'm crazy I like these over my a9s or the 60s as a matter of fact..
I don't need to look at anything further I love my speakers.. I have gotten bashed because people think I'm crazy I like these over my a9s or the 60s as a matter of fact..
Nope. No bashing on my part. More like a difference in my findings compared to yours. As I said initially, we all hear things differently and that is perfectly fine. If you’re happy with the sound you’re getting from the S55’s then that’s cool. I still prefer the S60’s and I’ll say that to anyone who asks because that’s been my experience.
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Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Definitive Technology SM350; Definitive Technology LCR2000; Definitive Technology Procinema 800; Mirage Nanasats; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
Master Bedroom
Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45; ACI Titan Subwoofer; Squeezebox Touch
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
Leme rephrase.. With my turntable setup I don't need a sub..with my modern setup using Spotify a sub is most definitely needed..
My Folks Setup: Pioneer AVR, Klipsch RP-150M, Sony 3D blue ray player, VIZIO 55" TV.
The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
There are not a lot of speakers that can give you all the details of the bass that is playing. Mid range drivers are just that mid range. The speakers will struggle to play the really low notes rendering all the bass kind of muddy. having a sub to take the pressure off of the speakers will give you greater clarity between the mid range and deep bass.
You would also be better off getting a better sub, a sealed box SVS would really take things up a notch both for music and movies.
Don't let the fact that you live in a condo scare you off from getting bigger speakers. It's not about the size of the speakers, it's about YOU being considerate of your neighbors. If you are playing your system during the weekdays turn it down some at 9pm, on weekends make turn it down at 10pm. I live in a condo and that's what I do.
Then again, if you are in one of the newer crappy all wood with no insulation between units condos that they are putting up these days, it won't matter how low the volume is, your neighbors will hear you.
So the same rules apply, just pray you have decent neighbors that won't mind.
We had a party for one of my kids when I first got my S60's. All the hip-hop they were playing was bass heavy so I turned off the sub putting the S60 in full range. They sounded darn good with no sub. a few weeks latter we were watching a movie, oops forgot to turn the sub on.
S60 sound good with no sub, add a sub in the mix and they are an oh yeah speaker.
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
Yamaha Aventage RX-A 1060, Parasound P5, Parasound A23, Yamaha BD-S681, Cambridge Audio Azur 851N, Polk S60, Polk S30, Samsung 60" LED
Office
Yamaha A-S501, Auralic Aries Mini, LSiM 703s
Douglas Connection ICs and Cables
My Folks Setup: Pioneer AVR, Klipsch RP-150M, Sony 3D blue ray player, VIZIO 55" TV.
OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
Let us know..
Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...
Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Definitive Technology SM350; Definitive Technology LCR2000; Definitive Technology Procinema 800; Mirage Nanasats; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
Master Bedroom
Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45; ACI Titan Subwoofer; Squeezebox Touch
And what setup is that..
uh...the one in Best Buy...
Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Definitive Technology SM350; Definitive Technology LCR2000; Definitive Technology Procinema 800; Mirage Nanasats; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
Master Bedroom
Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45; ACI Titan Subwoofer; Squeezebox Touch
Loving my 20s on my turntable sounds great..
I wish I had room for stands.. But there is no interference and most of the bass goes to my sub..soinds wonderful
Still, you may want something to decouple the S20 speakers from the surface like these or these.
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120Eb * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Streaming Stick + * Z-line Designs Elektra
We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120Eb * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Streaming Stick + * Z-line Designs Elektra
Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
Interesting. What are you powering with (sorry if you oh alreaud stated)?
Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Definitive Technology SM350; Definitive Technology LCR2000; Definitive Technology Procinema 800; Mirage Nanasats; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
Master Bedroom
Cambridge Azur 551r; Definitive Technology SM45; ACI Titan Subwoofer; Squeezebox Touch
I am sure it all comes down to the difference in Amperage between the 2 amps.
Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.
tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there
Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb then dumber.
Just a standard avr 90per.. The 55s don't need more.. Maybe the 60s do I don't really know.. Thanks for the advice I ordered the Adam hall will see if it makes a difference..
Having different speakers in the same spot and expecting different results may also have been an issue. Speaker placement is a critical step in getting the most out of a pair of speakers as this determines how the speakers interact with your room's acoustic properties.
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120Eb * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Streaming Stick + * Z-line Designs Elektra
Nope. No bashing on my part. More like a difference in my findings compared to yours. As I said initially, we all hear things differently and that is perfectly fine. If you’re happy with the sound you’re getting from the S55’s then that’s cool. I still prefer the S60’s and I’ll say that to anyone who asks because that’s been my experience.
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120Eb * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Streaming Stick + * Z-line Designs Elektra