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  • MilitoMilito Posts: 1,032
    I have two S55's and a sub. IMO they need a sub for music and HT.
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,700
    From what I have read, if you want to go subless go with the 60s. You can always just turn down the volume...
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,732
    ^^I concur, I own a pair of the S60's no sub required. This is what my ears hear, YMMV.
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    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    Milito wrote: »
    I have two S55's and a sub. IMO they need a sub for music and HT.

    Leme rephrase.. With my turntable setup I don't need a sub..with my modern setup using Spotify a sub is most definitely needed..
  • felipefelipe Posts: 423
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).
    My Setup: Denon AVR X3600h, Polk Signature S50 Fronts w/ S30 Center and S15 Rears, LG UBK90 4K Player, TCL 6-Series 65”4k TV

  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    felipe wrote: »
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).

    The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,420
    edited June 2018
    You can get the 55s and keep your sub, or wait and save more money and get the 60s and still keep your sub.

    There are not a lot of speakers that can give you all the details of the bass that is playing. Mid range drivers are just that mid range. The speakers will struggle to play the really low notes rendering all the bass kind of muddy. having a sub to take the pressure off of the speakers will give you greater clarity between the mid range and deep bass.

    You would also be better off getting a better sub, a sealed box SVS would really take things up a notch both for music and movies.

    Don't let the fact that you live in a condo scare you off from getting bigger speakers. It's not about the size of the speakers, it's about YOU being considerate of your neighbors. If you are playing your system during the weekdays turn it down some at 9pm, on weekends make turn it down at 10pm. I live in a condo and that's what I do.

    Then again, if you are in one of the newer crappy all wood with no insulation between units condos that they are putting up these days, it won't matter how low the volume is, your neighbors will hear you.

    So the same rules apply, just pray you have decent neighbors that won't mind.
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,326
    I agree the S60 don't need a sub for music.

    We had a party for one of my kids when I first got my S60's. All the hip-hop they were playing was bass heavy so I turned off the sub putting the S60 in full range. They sounded darn good with no sub. a few weeks latter we were watching a movie, oops forgot to turn the sub on.

    S60 sound good with no sub, add a sub in the mix and they are an oh yeah speaker.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,732
    Yeah, my system is strictly 2 channel music. Must be my space, as a sub with the S60's would be overkill.
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    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,131
    I vote sell the condo and get 4 subs.
  • rburgess714rburgess714 Posts: 548
    Save a little extra and go for the 60s. You can find good deals if you are patient and shop around. They are a terrific speaker and great for music and ht.
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  • felipefelipe Posts: 423
    Many thanks to all of you for your insight :). I do live in an older condo ( built in the 70s lol) so I assume its well-insulated ( it survived hurricane Irma..so thats sayin’ something Imo ). I saw a really good price on the S55s ( a little over 200 each :) ) from a reputable online retailer that I’ve purchased items from the past...so I bit the bullet and ordered a pair...couldn’t pass on it. If worse comes to worse, I got 60 days to return if they are not to my liking.
    My Setup: Denon AVR X3600h, Polk Signature S50 Fronts w/ S30 Center and S15 Rears, LG UBK90 4K Player, TCL 6-Series 65”4k TV

  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    DSkip wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    felipe wrote: »
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).

    The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..

    I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.

    There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.

    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion
  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    felipe wrote: »
    Many thanks to all of you for your insight :). I do live in an older condo ( built in the 70s lol) so I assume its well-insulated ( it survived hurricane Irma..so thats sayin’ something Imo ). I saw a really good price on the S55s ( a little over 200 each :) ) from a reputable online retailer that I’ve purchased items from the past...so I bit the bullet and ordered a pair...couldn’t pass on it. If worse comes to worse, I got 60 days to return if they are not to my liking.

    Let us know..
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,700
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    felipe wrote: »
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).

    The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..

    I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.

    There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.

    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...
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  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    felipe wrote: »
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).

    The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..

    I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.

    There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.

    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...

    And what setup is that..
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,700
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    felipe wrote: »
    So far it looks like both the S50 and S55 do need a sub, whereas the S60 doesn’t....bummer. The S60s are outside of my budget anyways...guess I’ll stick with what I got for now. Its not that I want to go subless...I just saw the sale and was wondering about the performance of these...now I have an idea ;).

    The 60s need one the same as the 55s don't let anyone tell you different ..same size drivers.. One extra isn't going to give you much more bump.. Being where you live I would imagine you will be happy.. I just turned mine on full range.. Played some skrillex and couldn't believe it..

    I'm sorry but I've had both and the 55 digs ok but the 60 is a different beast. It isn't just the extra driver. The speaker itself is about twice the internal volume of the 55. The sheer size difference can be staggering if you haven't seen them side by side.

    There is more to a speaker than just the drivers.

    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    Just curious were they properly set up with good power or was it just in Best Buy? Cause that setup is terrible...

    And what setup is that..

    uh...the one in Best Buy...
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  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
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    Loving my 20s on my turntable sounds great..
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,526
    Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    Loving my 20s on my turntable sounds great..

  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    Loving my 20s on my turntable sounds great..

    I wish I had room for stands.. But there is no interference and most of the bass goes to my sub..soinds wonderful
  • halohalo Posts: 5,577
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Might want to consider some isolation stands/pads for the speakers. Generally you don't want speakers to be resting on the same surface that your TT is on.
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    Loving my 20s on my turntable sounds great..

    I wish I had room for stands.. But there is no interference and most of the bass goes to my sub..soinds wonderful

    Still, you may want something to decouple the S20 speakers from the surface like these or these.
  • halohalo Posts: 5,577
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.
  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    halo wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.

    Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,700
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    halo wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.

    Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..

    Interesting. What are you powering with (sorry if you oh alreaud stated)?
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,732
    edited June 2018
    My experience, S60's driven with my the Halo A23 (125w) Meh. Same speaker driven with the Anthem 225 integrated (225W).....Yeah.

    I am sure it all comes down to the difference in Amperage between the 2 amps.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    halo wrote: »
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    OK lol I have heard them both side by side and there was very little difference base wise there is no difference in my opinion

    We all hear things differently and your opinion as to what you heard is valid. However, I would agree with @DSkip on this as I believe that the S60 puts out more bass and a wider spectrum of sound compared to that of the S55.

    Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..

    Interesting. What are you powering with (sorry if you oh alreaud stated)?

    Just a standard avr 90per.. The 55s don't need more.. Maybe the 60s do I don't really know.. Thanks for the advice I ordered the Adam hall will see if it makes a difference..
  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    Got rid of my amp after I got rid of the power hungry a9s.. Put it on the 55s and was no need for it..
  • halohalo Posts: 5,577
    Ctxx24 wrote: »

    Everyone's ears are different..I had the 60s in my living room same spot my 55s are.. Planned on using the 55s for rears I talked about doing this earlier in this thread.. After a week I returned the 60s as they where not worth the extra cash.. They had a little more punch I would say but just didn't make that much difference.. Now that being said I have a small room.. Maby a bigger room speakers wider apart someone will see a big difference wider Soundstage.. As for the guy asking in a smaller condo that's my opinion..

    Having different speakers in the same spot and expecting different results may also have been an issue. Speaker placement is a critical step in getting the most out of a pair of speakers as this determines how the speakers interact with your room's acoustic properties.
  • Ctxx24Ctxx24 Posts: 66
    I don't need to look at anything further I love my speakers.. I have gotten bashed because people think I'm crazy I like these over my a9s or the 60s as a matter of fact..
  • halohalo Posts: 5,577
    Ctxx24 wrote: »
    I don't need to look at anything further I love my speakers.. I have gotten bashed because people think I'm crazy I like these over my a9s or the 60s as a matter of fact..

    Nope. No bashing on my part. More like a difference in my findings compared to yours. As I said initially, we all hear things differently and that is perfectly fine. If you’re happy with the sound you’re getting from the S55’s then that’s cool. I still prefer the S60’s and I’ll say that to anyone who asks because that’s been my experience.
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