Is there any speaker out there that can do what an SDA does???

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    Nothing like letting them break in before pronouncing them to be crap...
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    bobt wrote: »
    These speakers used to play really loud in a large room..now due to the crap driver they will not. If you put them in a smaller room, don't come close to the 12 oclock position. .maybe these will work.

    Which means you consistently go over the 12 o'clock position and which also means you don't know what your doing and want to blame Polk for your abusive nature.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    Maybe so X, but given the advice he's already been given and fails to grasp, is there another conclusion you'd like to add ? Customer loyalty isn't an issue here when he's called Polk parts crap. Love to hear your advice for the man....that hasn't already been given.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,758
    No its fact. You turn it up to high and it heats up. No brainer...... Lets shut down this thread too. W T F
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    My advise to Bobt is this...

    Sometimes. . .just sometimes. . .it isn't everybody else that's the problem. Sometimes it's you. And maybe now is one of those times.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    How about some Pioneer SPEC gear and a pair of Cerwin Vega D9's
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited March 2015
    Bobt, get a pair of hyper efficient Klipsch or a pair of Cerwin Vegas. Honestly, I think you'll be happier. Something that can play ear bleeding volumes without breaking a sweat. Something that you can drive your amp into clipping with (which you probably are) and won't be affected as much.

    That or give the driver some break-in time and keep the dial below 11 o'clock.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    Hello Bobt,
    Would you be willing to send that driver to Polk's HQ and let Freeman Stiles take a look at it? If the rear suspension became unglued or tore, they would like to know.
    Let me know if this is possible.
    Best regards, Ken
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,628
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    Hello Bobt,
    Would you be willing to send that driver to Polk's HQ and let Freeman Stiles take a look at it? If the rear suspension became unglued or tore, they would like to know.
    Let me know if this is possible.
    Best regards, Ken

    THIS....would be most interesting to hear from someone that knows what they are doing. To determine the cause of the failure.

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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Ken, I would love to send you the driver.. but really you asked the same thing 2 years ago if not more. You sent me a number of drivers.. they did not work.
    These original speakers are from 1987... they have only needed 1 driver replacement back at least 13 years ago. That driver works 100%

    The New China drivers.. just do NOT work. Really? you think these new drivers are what they should be??? I have put them in the other speaker... it's not the speaker it's the driver... it fails all the time. These speakers POP... all of them do the same dam thing..... The original speakers work..100%

    Now really if you don't know this.. you have to be kidding me...
    IF you could make real drivers that worked.. then the speakers are worth while, but I have tried this, and given you guys a few years to fix it... so far, nothing works.
    I don't know what to tell you except if you really think this replacement driver is good.
    then you need to get a grip....
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    You're right, they're junk. How much do you want for them and where are you located?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    Ken offers to have the good folks at Polk help you again, and you crap all over the offer.... way to show your classy side.

    This Ken, is why we are so eager to see trolls being banned.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    NO.. i'm not giving Ken the crap... HE's a good guy and would like to help. BUT..
    The drivers are not so good.. cheap yes but NOT what was it was in 1980's.
    They work if you keep them at low volume.. you push them... then they pop.
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    This is seriously old. You don't even acknowledge any of the potential issues that people point out, such as ZLTFUL up there. You refuse Kens offer for help. What do you want?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Ken can not fix this.. and I think he knows it.... the drivers are made in china to a certain spec.. problem is it's not great, or right. not much the guy can do...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    edited March 2015
    bobt wrote: »
    Ken can not fix this.. and I think he knows it.... the drivers are made in china to a certain spec.. problem is it's not great, or right. not much the guy can do...

    I have zero doubt that Ken CAN fix this, but you would have to check your arrogance at the door. I have little hope that you will do that, as your problems could have stopped years ago if you had used 100th of 1% of the advice and suggestions you have received here in that time.

    I sincerely wish you the best of luck in continuing to be the smartest member of CP, because it is working out so well for you...

    Welcome to my ignore list.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited March 2015
    Hello bobt,
    Either the rear suspension, called the spyder, has had a glue bond failure or become torn. As long as the voice coil former has not been severely damaged Freeman stands a good chance of repairing it and making sure it meets all specifications. He can measure distortion, power handling, insuring that all T/S parameters are correct.
    Believe me nobody can test and build a speaker component like him. If for some reason he can't make the driver work perfectly he might be able to build one up from scratch.
    Regards, Ken
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    ^ This is the reason I will stick with Polk. Boutique speaker manufacturers aside you won't find customer service like this, and Ken specifically, from your average speaker company.

    @bobt Second chance, you'd have to be crazy not to take Ken up here.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    I just read this entire thread from start to finish. I think I just broke my brain reading this guys responses. Crap, junk,crap, junk, LMAO, have a nice day, get a grip. The driver is brake.....
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  • STAmbio
    STAmbio Posts: 3
    edited March 2015
    Post deleted. Addressed to wrong person.
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    STAmbio Posts: 3
    xcapri79 wrote:
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    Please tell me why did you reported my post as spam? I was responding to another person's post and I don't see how I breached any of the rules.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Ken... Really??? you know as well as I do the replacement drivers for the MW6511 is well... half ****, what I got 15 years ago worked perfect.
    Now if you really want me to send you the new stuff I got... ok
    I have the original 1987 driver, but I think the coil is screwed. NOBODY will fix it. I have tried....

    Really you know what i'm talking about here,,,,
    If you really want me to send it to you I can do that.. you know what i'm talking about..unless the speaker works 100% then not worth the money...

    The other question is what is this going to cost me???
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    There would be no charge, except shipping to Polk.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Yaknow, the more I read the complaints, the more I'm leaning towards wired backwards and pushed silly. Just a guess.
    They may also be wired incorrectly. On the 1Cs, the 6511s are wired in series, while the 6510s are wired in parallel. If the 6511s are wired in parallel as well, that could be part of the problem.
    I've ordered several replacement drivers over the past few years, and have not had a single one fail, or pop when driven hard.

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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,461
    Your social skills are.... not good.
    bobt wrote: »
    Ken, I would love to send you the driver.. but really you asked the same thing 2 years ago if not more. You sent me a number of drivers.. they did not work.
    These original speakers are from 1987... they have only needed 1 driver replacement back at least 13 years ago. That driver works 100%

    The New China drivers.. just do NOT work. Really? you think these new drivers are what they should be??? I have put them in the other speaker... it's not the speaker it's the driver... it fails all the time. These speakers POP... all of them do the same dam thing..... The original speakers work..100%

    Now really if you don't know this.. you have to be kidding me...
    IF you could make real drivers that worked.. then the speakers are worth while, but I have tried this, and given you guys a few years to fix it... so far, nothing works.
    I don't know what to tell you except if you really think this replacement driver is good.
    then you need to get a grip....

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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    Ken, I'd walk you through it, no worries
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    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Yaknow, the more I read the complaints, the more I'm leaning towards wired backwards and pushed silly. Just a guess.

    Or it could be a loose screw ...
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Ken I will be glad to send the driver back to you. Just give me the address and who I should send it to.
    To be honest with you, if you have worked for Polk over 15 years... you should know the new drivers.. don't work that well... just saying. If you really think you can fix it, be my guest. I have tried to get the original Polk driver fixed. No speaker repair place will touch it....
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
    I thought they closed this thread way back...
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,687
    Nope, we all need laughs, and well.... this has been providing me with some good ones....
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