Is there any speaker out there that can do what an SDA does???

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I didn't know whoever bought Polk also controls Definitive Technology. I just checked their web-site. It is much nicer, but I didn't see any forums. I wanted to see if they also used Vanilla.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Polk was sold off,, which may account for the crappy drivers 2+ years ago.. they also control Definitive technology
    +
    Now I bought a MW6511 from them.. if it is AS BAD, as when the took over the company..not good. IF.... they now can make the same decent driver from
    the 1987 speaker its worth the money to throw at it..

    I will give I one more shot. I ordered a MW6511. They said it "should" work, but not that sure. The BUTT answer was buy DT speakers... if that tells you anything.

    POLK was sold off.. over 2 years ago.. the drivers I got at the time..were crap

    What I get in the next few days when it shows up.. I don't know.. my guess is it's still the same crap.. but not sure.
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Weird how you're the first person to ever post about their replacement midwoofer "popping". Does it do this at low to mid volume? Sounds like you have the bass knob cranked up to max, loudness switched on, and are cranking it.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    YUP.. I would have to guess.. you don't get it... The POLK company as it once was..NOT anything close. It was sold off to some DEI company, which also sucked up DT and a few other companies...

    They could care less about old SDA crap,, the drivers I got 2+ years ago, were junk.
    Now I talked to the "supposed" Polk tech guys. They said buy DT stuff but the MW6511 may work.....

    The mw6511 I just bought... MAY work.. but my guess is not.
    Polk Is NOT what it used to be.... I will give this 50 bucks... see if it's as bad as the other crap...
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Where do you live? I'll give you $100 for your garbage SDA's.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Again.. I would have to think you don't get it....

    IF..IF the MW6511 works... I'll be as happy as a clam.. and buy 6 of these
    pretty much because they work like the 1987 drivers.. my guess... is it will not and be the same crap China stuff from 2 + years ago
    +
    BUT i'm giving it one more try....
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    I can deal with all the other "vanilla" stuff but please bring back the bozo list...
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    OKAY Ken.. if I had a clue as to what our were taking about..maybe
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    bobt wrote: »
    OKAY Ken.. if I had a clue as to what our were taking about..maybe

    Herein lies your problem sparky...

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    I know it's an exercise in futility, but once again.....
    Yo BobbyT, maybe you haven't noticed, but you are the only person having this issue. Why do you think that is?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    F1nut...why do you feed the troll? You of all folks should know.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    Yeah, I know.....but I really was interested to hear his thoughts on why it has only happened to him.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Weird how you're the first person to ever post about their replacement midwoofer "popping". Does it do this at low to mid volume? Sounds like you have the bass knob cranked up to max, loudness switched on, and are cranking it.
    He didn't acknowledge my attempt either.

    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    OK I get talking about this because you people don't know from crap.

    I have SDA1C.. massive speakers they used to work all the time at really loud volumes.
    Now 1 MW6511 does no longer, works 10 years ago this was not a problem.. you call up Polk they send you a replacement driver it works 100%

    NOW or so 3 years ago.. when Polk was sold.. the drivers were crap. NOW polk is owned by DEI what ever those people are. Now I just spent 50 bucks to see if there MW6511
    is worth a **** or not.

    If you don't get that.. LMAO.. have a nice day...
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    Looking for crayons....
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Pretty much you get a driver that is the same as a 1987 or you don't.. that's it.
    Either you can fix these speakers or you can't...
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    How many other companies even offer current support from a product from 1987? I'm out....fvx4jmkbqmuh.jpg
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    LMAO... I should get the driver in a few days... Now either this works or it does not,
    The speakers are then worth fixing as far as x over or not. Whats your problem?
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited February 2015
    Buy an original MW6511 off eBay. Problem solved. Still, you're the only person I've ever seen say they had *any* issues with the new replacements.

    My offer to buy your junk 1C's for $100 stands, if you live near me.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Lots of luck dude... MW6511 on ebay.. I bought some of those.. there were blown form the getgo JUNK...LMAO

  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    How many other companies even offer current support from a product from 1987? I'm out....fvx4jmkbqmuh.jpg

    Bingo....but....it must be Polks fault for not carrying parts to 30 year old speakers. Plus they played at "really loud volumes" for so long.

    News flash Bob, the tech guys at Polk probably weren't even born then, and the ones who knew those speakers have moved on already. That's why your best source of info is the guys here who live and breath them, worked on, rebuilt them, for decades. Which btw you care not to listen to.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    Nope.. your wrong.. if I can't get the 1 driver to work right,,, then the rest of the stuff is useless.... yes your talking to kids, what can I do...
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    bobt wrote: »
    Nope.. your wrong.. if I can't get the 1 driver to work right,,, then the rest of the stuff is useless.... yes your talking to kids, what can I do...

    you're...damn kids...

  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    All the new replacement drivers come from China. Before that, Mexico.
    I ordered a replacement 6503 for a customer last year, and it worked perfectly.
    They are physically different than the originals, and you must trim the rubber surround around each mounting hole. Once that's done, you should be fine.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    Bob, I do not know what is wrong with you. But I am fairly sure they make a pill for it. How do you equate knowing how to play guitar (which was not all that impressive really, got any other vid's?) and working in IT to repairing speakers? Since you have that "experience and knowledge", does that mean you can fly the space shuttle or perform brain surgery?

    Also, I have an M504 power amp. Bought it brand new. Been a great amp, I love mine. My listening room is 16x24. And if I turn the volume up to the 1 o'clock position, speakers clip! I don't give a rats bottom what you say to that. That is the truth. With my Polk SDA's, Infinity RSIIIa's or any of my other pairs of speakers. Actually at around the 10:30 position, it get way to loud to stay in the room.

    I am thinking that all the years you've played guitar, your ears are fried. If not you would not really need to listen that loud. While the M504 is a great amp, it is not the last thing in power amps. Many betters choices. Also it is probably time to have that amp serviced.

    And since you keep mentioning DefTech speakers. I suggest, though they might be too old for you, looking for a pair of BP2000, 2002TL or 3000's. I know some say DefTech are only good for home theater duty. But I do not agree. Any of those models produce amazing bass on their own.

    Another thing to consider since you like it loud. Are pro speakers/monitors, or even Cerwin Vega D9's. That way you can beat the **** out of them all you want and finish off them ears!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    halo71 wrote: »
    ... Since you have that "experience and knowledge", does that mean you can fly the space shuttle or perform brain surgery?


    Maybe he is qualified. I heard he has been staying at the Holiday Inn lately.

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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    Apparently my comparison of the OP to a VD wasn't acceptable. LOL
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    LMAO.. really I don't care what you think..thats your problem. I happen to know when an MW 6511 driver works or it does not. Now weather other people bought the old drivers of 2+ years ago... what they thought of them.. don't know, don't care.

    IF the new one works, and it should be here in a few days, maybe I will tell you fools it does... then if you have an SDA speaker that needs that driver.. you should stock up on them. I have now 500 watts per of high current power for these. The old replacement china driver of 2 years ago will not go much past 10 1/2 with out popping. Now I have to guess you people don't really get it, or don't play these speakers loud at all. No other driver pops or has this problem, nore does it make a difference what speaker I put this driver in... try and get that strait... NOT the Speaker or X-over.. its the dam driver!!!!!!

    The other fact is the POLK TECHS... told me, and I did NOT ask.... More to the point of, well if the replacement driver does not work, to get anything close to the SDA sound.. go buy DT Bi-polar speakers... LMAO

    I did not ask them... THEY told me. So figure that one out.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    bobt wrote: »
    LMAO.. really I don't care what you think..thats your problem. I happen to know when an MW 6511 driver works or it does not. Now weather other people bought the old drivers of 2+ years ago... what they thought of them.. don't know, don't care.

    You should, because everybody has tried to help your arrogant ****$...
    bobt wrote: »
    The old replacement china driver of 2 years ago will not go much past 10 1/2 with out popping.

    Why would you want to play a new driver, out of the box, anywhere near that loud. You need at least 100/200 hours on the driver before I would go past 9:30...
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