This joint needs some more vintage hifi
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Actually the CR-1000 is a little too disco for me with all the slide controls -- oh-so-fashionable ca. 1974 they were. Other than that, it's a very nice piece of hardware with a remarkably good tuner section for a receiver.
Aesthetically, I am probably most partial to the CA-1010 and CA-2010 integrated amplifiers as the sine qua non of the massmarket Yamaha hardware (some of their statement separates are more elegant and/or more impressive, but still out of my price range... at least in terms of what I am willing to spend for vintage solid state stuff).
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Aesthetically, I am probably most partial to the CA-1010 and CA-2010 integrated amplifiers as the sine qua non of the massmarket Yamaha hardware (some of their statement separates are more elegant and/or more impressive, but still out of my price range... at least in terms of what I am willing to spend for vintage solid state stuff).
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The price range is always the issue. 10 years ago you could play with these and not worry about it. Anymore, the $$$ becomes a factor.
I like to buy stuff non-working. I've seen broken stuff going for
hundreds of dollars. The 1150 was $100 BROKEN (the balance slider
was GONE). The only reason I jumped was the guy who sold it to me
said it was the only thing wrong, It was a guy I know, so lower risk.
The KR-7600 was more of a crap shoot."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
The price range is a factor that has to be balanced against... shall we say... desire to acquire.
E.g. I'd have no issue at all in paying current market price for a Marantz 8B in good working and cosmetic condition from a reliable, local seller. Absolutely no problem at all...
Marantz8B by mhardy6647, on Flickr
That one's not mine, but I did the re-hab on it and I've gotta tell you it's the best sounding commercially-made vacuum tube amplifier I've had in my home (and I am not, a priori a big fan of the push-pull EL34 "sound")... even with the cheap-jack "cannon fodder" Sovtek output tubes installed in it while I was workin' on it, it sounded great. -
I love the vintage Yamaha receivers too.... and I am a big fan of their old amps as well... they are way under appreciated...The only thing I don't like about much of the vintage stuff is the connectors....RCA and Speaker connections don't seem to age well. And yes the 8B is a classic perhaps even a museum piece.My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
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Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Don't complain ; - )Mikey081057 wrote: »I love the vintage Yamaha receivers too.... and I am a big fan of their old amps as well... they are way under appreciated...
Well... except that they deserved to be used not just gatherin' dust....And yes the 8B is a classic perhaps even a museum piece.
The other classic commercial amp I'd like to get to know better is the h/k Citation II (FWIW).
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The citation 16a is one that I can't seem to get my hands on.
As far as the Kenwood goes, some more work tonight found that the
preamp jumpers were causing issues. After some cleanup, the bass
has improved on the Kenwood. Who'd think that could cause that
much of an issue? I still need to pull it down all the way. Some of the pots are
coupled to the back via long shafts. I've got to pull the back off to get to
them. Such is life with old stuff."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
Those old HK units are built like a tank. The build quality screams McIntosh. I had my hands in a citation pre-amp last week, and they sound very nice. We ended up replacing the unshielded input leads and changed the volume control to an alps. With a little chassis and knob modification it looks like no one even touched it from the outside.




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Jeez that is very sweet ... that my get my vote for Vintage P O R N of the year...My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
My ESS AMT 1s. Neat speakers



HT System:
Marantz NR-1403
Front: Klipsch CF-4
Rear: Paradigm Atom V3
Center: Boston Acoustic VR12
Sub: Bowers & Wilkins ASW600
2Ch:
Restored Fisher 500C
Yamaha P-500 Turntable
Living Room:
Harman Kardon 3380
Restored Polk Monitor 7B
Bedroom:
Harman Kardon VR-3750
Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble
Polk PSW10
In and out of rotation:
KLH Model 6,
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The h/k preamp and the ESS speakers are very nice...
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The ESS AMT 1A's are what I grew up listening to on my dad's system. Not for everyone, but it certainly pushed me towards a quality speaker with nice bass and detailed highs. He still has them, and I'm acquiring parts as I can to rehab them in the future. The HEIL tweeters are really nice and you see the same principles being applied to a lot of new offerings.
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I wouldn't mind giving those ESS speakers a listen. That H/k was nice mhardy, save ofr the couple of blemishes on the back under the tubes near the input jacks, it was in pristine condition. We fired it up before freshening it up and it sounded congested. After it just sung right, very nice sounding vintage pre. I wouldn't mind having a citation I like that to rotate through the mix.mhardy6647 wrote: »The h/k preamp and the ESS speakers are very nice...
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Here is/was a basket-case of a Scott 290 amp. I had to rewire much of it, as a chunk of the wires were burnt from the heat of the dual rectifiers. Most of the wiring in that thing ran between those 2 hot tubes, now there are 2 in that location, and only because that is were they need to connect to. All other wires were ran around the outside of the tubes. We also greatly increased the wattage dissipation of the dropping resisters to help cool things down under the chassis. I wish I would have gotten pics of the lk-150 I did about a week or so ago as it was very very clean, and also another nice sounding unit. I should note that the 290 in the pics above had a "tacoed" chassis, as well as the far right control on the face was smashed back in about 3/8 of an inch. A little bit of wood and a hammer can make things straighten out pretty decently.
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Finally had some bandwidth to test the trifecta of MX5050 MkIII-2 decks. They all three work pretty darned well and sound quite good, as is.
The two on carts are pretty grungy, but it's a Velveteen Rabbit rather than a Curt Cobain kind of grunge... they were clearly much loved ;- )
DSC_0056 by mhardy6647, on Flickr
Nice thing about these decks -- they're half-track decks, but they come with a quarter-track head stack, too. A switch under the head cover selects the 2 vs. 4 track playback heads. Easy as that.
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Just got my Yamaha CR-1000 & love it. Cant wait to use it this weekend
Randy-Maine
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Randy-Maine
2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
by David WMG
Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
MIT BJC Cs1000p Polk Rotation -
I recently got this minty Technics SU-A6 preamp, with MC phono.


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Home Theater: Toshiba D-VR5SU | Laptop #1 |Outlaw Audio OAW3 wireless audio system | Marantz SR-19 | Phase Linear 400 Series 2, modified | AudioSource 10.1 EQ (for subs) | Axiom M3 v3’s | Axiom VP150 | Optimus PRO-X55AVs | Dayton 12” powered subs (x2) | Belkin PureAV PF-60 line conditioner.
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Randy-Maine
2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
by David WMG
Yamaha cr1000 cr2040
HT-Yamaha Parasound Acurus
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I took advantage of a rainy morning today to -- finally -- "restore" the other knob inserts on my dump-find EICO ST-40 integrated amplifier (pp 7591A, as was its big brother the ST-70). Years ago, I had found some brown textured paper at a Michael's craft store that was a pretty darned good match for the missing inserts.
I feel much better now.
DSC_0198 by mhardy6647, on Flickr
DSC_0200 by mhardy6647, on Flickr
ST-70 on the left, ST-40 on the right
oh and I spent an hour or so listening to it via a pair of Dynaco A-35XL speakers.
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Looks very nice Mark. We use to have a shed at our local transfer station & a year ago they locked it up. I use ta enjoy going to get rid of trash/recycles. Use ta get some goodies tooRandy-Maine
2ch-RTA15tl crossover upgrade
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I recently acquired and restored a couple of significant-to-me, Realistic receivers.
I would have been about 11 years old in 1981, and my dream receiver was the STA-2080. But I didn't get one, couldn't afford one, etc.. It took a few years but by 1984-'85 I had saved up enough to buy the "new for '84" STA-860. I ended up selling my original a few years ago, but almost instantly regretted it. Found one recently for $59 that I couldn't pass up. A few weeks later I acquired a working-but-overheating STA-2080. I worked it over and here it is along with the 860. I tend to like to keep the original look when it comes to dial lighting on these old receivers, but many of them- including this STA-2080- desperately needed cooler-running lamps, as the heat was taking a toll on the plastics. I tried and tried, but I just couldn't get the warm-white LED's to look right. I finally threw that approach out the window and went for a cooler look with blue tinted meter lighting. I think it looks nice. (The 860 lighting is all LED, too, but maintains the original look.)

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Those old Realistics are nice! I have a couple myself. An STA-2200 (first RS unit with Mosfet power transistor construction).
And, one of my favorite looking pieces below, the STA-95, but the 2080 is more powerful, bigger, and has POWER METERS! And those new lights are "sure" pretty!
Will put all my RS stuff together in a room eventually. Probably the STA-95 (or 2200) some Nova 8s, LAB 395 TT, SCT 33 cassette deck, and a CD 2300. Pretty much a nostalgia system but I was a lot older than 11 in '81! Reminds me of everything I never had in college/and graduate school!
cnh
Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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Very nice Jason.
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This was given to me recently as an "I don't want it anymore" Well it now has a happy home.
Proton D1200 power amp from1988.
Sorry it 's not a better pic.
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^^ That R/S receiver (RS-2080) is, I believe, the model with the MOSFET outputs; I can't ever remember hearing one... but they're said to sound quite good.
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I think the 2080 has an FM stage with MOSFET, but the first advertised RS with MOSFET power outputs for amplification was the STA-2200 below. I could be wrong, but the advertising seems to tout these transistors in the '81 catalog? It's the only receiver that year to list that whereas the 2080 and others mention FM MOSFETS? Again, not a hundred percent sure here?

cnhCurrently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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Thanks for the comments! So the consensus is that the lighting scheme looks okay? I do like it, but I feel a little bad about it not looking original. The original bulbs on the dial used a blue coating to make them less yellow, but the meters used a transparent blue filter to accomplish the same thing. With the yellowing of the plastics from heat, warm white leds just made everything look kind of sick yellow-green. That's pretty much how the incandescent lamps looked, too, when I bought it, but I remember the lighting looking a lot "whiter" when these were new. As shown above, I just used regular "cool" white leds, one on each end of the dial and two per meter.
And the 2080 used regular BJT outputs, 2SD745 and 2SB705. It looks like it's pretty similar to the STA-2000 in layout and construction, but was made in Korea instead of Japan. Most people seem to think it sounds better than the STA-2000. I don't know, but it sounds real good to me.
Despite being built a few years after the "peak", that STA-860 is no slouch either. Advertised as 65wpc @8 ohms,20-20Khz 0.03%THD. I drove mine hard, even being a dumb teenager and doing "DIY" Dj gigs with it on multiple occasions driving 4 Ohm (probably lower) loads with no problems. I'm not really what I would call an audiophile but I have been exposed to some nice equipment and I've spent a lot of money in pursuit of higher end audio. And I don't regret any of that, but when I got this 860 and hooked it up for a listen it was kind of like "ahhhh!" Perhaps it's just because it's what I grew up with.. I got a chuckle out of it, actually. Now if I had a set of Mach One's to go with it....
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I think that LEDs are the way to go in relamping old stuff for several reasons -- heat and longevity being the primary ones. Generally speaking, I prefer the color of modern LEDs to the warm glow of incandescent.
Sorry I got my "what receivers had MOSFET outputs" all confuzzled and confusticated! :- p
It's neat that you've had the 860 since it was new!








