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louhamilton wrote: »This thread is pathetic. There has been nothing meaningful said for the last 4 or more pages. Is there a 'Report this Thread' button? A lot of it is quite offensive and has crossed too many lines.
How old are we all? To have to resort to name calling because of ones opinion is crazy! Even my 8 year old handles things better than you all.
In all honesty, what has Emotiva done? Heck, if you really want a villain to attack, look at Lexicon. Makes you wonder what other "high-end" companies are taking lower-cost products and re-badging them with a higher cost.
I agree, too many children -
Enough of your Social Anthropologist gobbledy-****!!! It's free for all!!! No one is safe!
Where you been man. We could use you in China...these guys have just installed a gas electric hot-water heating unit here and have it dangling into a surge protector just above the kitchen sink.....So Electrical fire or gas explosion....a lot of Work for you on the Asian side!
Stay cool...and I'll behave myself...
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I'm offended by your post, so I reported it.
Thanks for making my point.
dude, honestly its not about what Emo has done its about the fan bois coming in proclaiming all these great things and then all hell breaks lose. If you want to talk about lexicon redoing the Oppo there is another thread for that.
So ignore them and move on (I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ). But by responding to the posts, the thread stays at the top of the page and gets read and then others feed on the back and forth banter and the cycle repeats. Nothing ever gets resolved because in the end there will be those who love the products and other who don't. But this can be said for many products.
This is worse than the LCD vs. Plasma or speaker/IC/power cable debates that I have read. Or don't get me started on power conditioners or surge protectors. That will make ones head hurt for days. -
Did your parents have any children they liked?sd_speaker wrote: »I agree, too many children -
louhamilton wrote: »the thread stays at the top of the page and gets read and then others feed on the back and forth banter and the cycle repeats. Nothing ever gets resolved
Congrats, you just nailed the gist of this thread.....it's a dumping ground. -
louhamilton wrote: »Thanks for making my point.
So ignore them and move on (I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ). But by responding to the posts, the thread stays at the top of the page and gets read and then others feed on the back and forth banter and the cycle repeats. Nothing ever gets resolved because in the end there will be those who love the products and other who don't. But this can be said for many products.
This is worse than the LCD vs. Plasma or speaker/IC/power cable debates that I have read. Or don't get me started on power conditioners or surge protectors. That will make ones head hurt for days.
hmm yet you posted in here tell everyone to back off, hmmm. take your own advice. -
hmm yet you posted in here tell everyone to back off, hmmm. take your own advice.
I think I've already addressed this by saying, 'I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ' in my response. But thanks for the suggestion.
I really just insinuated that this post has become very off topic when it reverts to name calling and instead of stooping to that level, moving on to another thread may be more beneficial. -
what has to happen to get this thread locked??
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Ugh!!....I just responded with 3 paragraphs and it made me log in again...my write up no where to be found....
Summary....
I auditioned Carver 500M, Rotel RB-990BX, and XPA-2 over summer 2009. None of the amps "buried" the other one. Carver did sound a little different...not bad, not good..just different IMO. I kept the XPA-2, sold the Carver, still have the Rotel I'd like to unload.
With the handful of amps I've auditioned over the years I have yet to hear to amps with similiar specs "blow away" any other. IMO..as long as they have similiar specs and are functioning properly the differences are usually subtle at best.
Fair enough. At least you've got the experience there.
I auditioned the XPA-2 against an Onkyo M5150, Kenwood Basic M2, and an Adcom GFA-545. The XPA-2 had a slight edge in power at ridiculous listening levels that i would never dream of listening to anyways, but to my ears, the Onkyo and the Kenwood were smoother, and no so overboosted/in your face. The Onkyo was the warmest amp by far, then the Kenwood, then the Emo, then the Adcom.
I know, it's a strange comparison, so i'm not going to sit here and say "ONKYO IS THE BEST BAR NONE!!!!!!"
I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii
Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999
Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3
HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000 -
Orrrrrr..... maybe i will.
ONKYO MAKES THE BEST AMPS IN THE WORLD!!!! STOMPS ALL OVER KRELL AND PARASOUND!!I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii
Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999
Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3
HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000 -
louhamilton wrote: »So ignore them and move on (I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ). But by responding to the posts, the thread stays at the top of the page and gets read and then others feed on the back and forth banter and the cycle repeats. Nothing ever gets resolved because in the end there will be those who love the products and other who don't. But this can be said for many products.
This is worse than the LCD vs. Plasma or speaker/IC/power cable debates that I have read. Or don't get me started on power conditioners or surge protectors. That will make ones head hurt for days.
Maybe it's time for you to move on to another audio board. Sounds like there is no reason for you to be here..................since your offended by so many threads and discussions.
Bye
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | Galion TS P75 Pre | Holo Audio Cyan 2 Dac | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul! -
Dang, this is a long thread.
Thx for the many laughs. -
louhamilton wrote: »Thanks for making my point.
So ignore them and move on (I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ). But by responding to the posts, the thread stays at the top of the page and gets read and then others feed on the back and forth banter and the cycle repeats. Nothing ever gets resolved because in the end there will be those who love the products and other who don't. But this can be said for many products.
This is worse than the LCD vs. Plasma or speaker/IC/power cable debates that I have read. Or don't get me started on power conditioners or surge protectors. That will make ones head hurt for days.
You got that right! That's why I took offence to that POS saying I smoke crack and then affirms that he knows it as a fact for the whole world to see.
So don't read them! As you said it is that easy.
Don't fall in with the trolls Lou. This club is wonderful and has people who will go way, way out of their way to help others even ingrate newbies who take offence to a little ribbing. Plus it is chock full of great and insightful information. -
Did your parents have any children they liked?
Come on Russ you can do better than that :mad:
It's goes, Did your parents have any children that lived? -
Come on Russ you can do better than that :mad:
It's goes, Did your parents have any children that lived?
I always thought it was: Did the better part of you run down your mother's leg? :eek:I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii
Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999
Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3
HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000 -
louhamilton wrote: »This is worse than the LCD vs. Plasma or speaker/IC/power cable debates that I have read. Or don't get me started on power conditioners or surge protectors. That will make ones head hurt for days.
Geeez... This one's easy... Plasma is better than LCD, Cables matter, and power conditioners over surge protectors.HT
RTi70 mains
CSi30 center
RTi28 Rears
Velodyne CHT-12
H/K AVR-247
ADCOM GFA-7000
Samsung PN58B860
Playstation 3
2-Channel
Polk Audio LSi15's
Rotel RCD-1072
Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
ADCOM GFA-555
Signal Cable Analog II IC's
Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables -
Congrats, you just nailed the gist of this thread.....it's a dumping ground.
Think of it as...waste management.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
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Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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hearingimpared wrote: »You got that right! That's why I took offence to that POS saying I smoke crack and then affirms that he knows it as a fact for the whole world to see.
So don't read them! As you said it is that easy.
Don't fall in with the trolls Lou. This club is wonderful and has people who will go way, way out of their way to help others even ingrate newbies who take offence to a little ribbing. Plus it is chock full of great and insightful information.
The sad part is that it USED to be good. I've been a long time lurker and have seen a steady decline of true support and comraderie. It seems more times than not that if a poster talks about a certain brand or maybe doesn't use a search function (or does and it doesn't directly answer their question), or they may ask a "silly" question that may be obvious to someone who has been doing it for years, they get slammed and ridiculed.
There are some people here that make the guys over at AVSForums look like angels. That is pretty sad.
Maybe heiney has the right idea. Maybe my time is up here. I love the classic Polk sound or yesteryear, it's just really sad that it has come down to this. -
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there are some people here that make the guys over at avsforums look like angels. That is pretty sad.
Maybe heiney has the right idea. Maybe my time is up here. I love the classic polk sound or yesteryear, it's just really sad that it has come down to this. -
louhamilton wrote: »I think I've already addressed this by saying, 'I know pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes: ' in my response. But thanks for the suggestion.
I really just insinuated that this post has become very off topic when it reverts to name calling and instead of stooping to that level, moving on to another thread may be more beneficial.
I came in here and posted what I thought about Emo's as I do still currently own them and have owned them. I get annoyed however when others who have to defend everything Emo come in and start the same crap. In my opinion if you don't like it, then don't post or read in the thread. We are all well enough aware of whats going on ect to make our own choices regarding the thread.
Also I am fairly newer and really don't have any of the problems you have stated later such as the yelling at newbies for stuff ect. I feel its all in the eye of the beholder.
Also every other forum I've been on just goes on and on and on about how great Emo amps are, such as see on blu-ray.com the thread about emos, ect. Its like honestly this is the only one I feel I could give my true belief about the amp and not get jumped on by 500 people saying how can you say that blah blah blah. -
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louhamilton wrote: »The sad part is that it USED to be good. I've been a long time lurker and have seen a steady decline of true support and comraderie. It seems more times than not that if a poster talks about a certain brand or maybe doesn't use a search function (or does and it doesn't directly answer their question), or they may ask a "silly" question that may be obvious to someone who has been doing it for years, they get slammed and ridiculed.
There are some people here that make the guys over at AVSForums look like angels. That is pretty sad.
Maybe heiney has the right idea. Maybe my time is up here. I love the classic Polk sound or yesteryear, it's just really sad that it has come down to this.
I don't think you are looking at the big picture Lou. We've just got an influx of new guys who are asking the same questions about SDAs and are being supported 100% even though the answers are already here to be found by searching. There are several newbies who are being helped, old threads being posted for them, PMs going back and forth to elaborate on the topics etc. These new guys have come in without a chip on their shoulder without the entitled attitude plus they take some ribbing (which you know is part of the SOP here) without flying off the handle and starting a range war by going into old threads and making troll like comments. Superjunior is perfect example of how people are forgiving around here. He started off like gangbusters making cocky statements and the such but then he settled down and through all that was still given all the help he needed and then he settled in and GOT IT and has become well liked and a productive member of the club.
You should know by now, being a member longer than me, that around the holidays the flood gates open and we get an inordinate amount of new guys. Most are respectful and grateful for the help they get and stick around and be productive members, others get offended easily or have a chip on their shoulder and get flamed and then go on troll rampages. It's the natural order here.
You are right however that the Emo threads are less tolerated because the Emoette have the forum collective, even some of the guys who own Emos, suspicious of their intentions because of the furor caused by the Emoetts over the past year or so. That is truley unfornate but a fact of life here.
Only a couple of those trolls have hung around and continue to cause strife here.
I don't think your time here is up and you should stick around. However please beaware of the reasons behind the Emo allergies here.:) -
concealer404 wrote: »I always thought it was: Did the better part of you run down your mother's leg? :eek:
That one goes as follows:
"It looks like the best part of you ran down the crack of your mothers **** and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress, I think you have been cheated"
Gunnery Sargent Hartman in Full Metal Jacket, a great line of many from that movie. -
hearingimpared wrote: »I don't think you are looking at the big picture Lou. We've just got an influx of new guys who are asking the same questions about SDAs and are being supported 100% even though the answers are already here to be found by searching. There are several newbies who are being helped, old threads being posted for them, PMs going back and forth to elaborate on the topics etc. These new guys have come in without a chip on their shoulder without the entitled attitude plus they take some ribbing (which you know is part of the SOP here) without flying off the handle and starting a range war by going into old threads and making troll like comments. Superjunior is perfect example of how people are forgiving around here. He started off like gangbusters making cocky statements and the such but then he settled down and through all that was still given all the help he needed and then he settled in and GOT IT and has become well liked and a productive member of the club.
You should know by now, being a member longer than me, that around the holidays the flood gates open and we get an inordinate amount of new guys. Most are respectful and grateful for the help they get and stick around and be productive members, others get offended easily or have a chip on their shoulder and get flamed and then go on troll rampages. It's the natural order here.
You are right however that the Emo threads are less tolerated because the Emoette have the forum collective, even some of the guys who own Emos, suspicious of their intentions because of the furor caused by the Emoetts over the past year or so. That is truley unfornate but a fact of life here.
Only a couple of those trolls have hung around and continue to cause strife here.
I don't think your time here is up and you should stick around. However please beaware of the reasons behind the Emo allergies here.:)
I appreciate the time you took to respond. This was civil, productive, and mature response.
I understand everything you posted and thank you. I can see the points of why people get intolerant, but I think by ignoring them is the best bet. If they get too unruly, get a mod involved. Again, this is the same process I teach my 6 and 8 year olds. Ignore the annoying kids, bullies, and trouble-makers. If they don't leave you alone or go away, then get a teacher or other adult involved to help intervene.
Thanks again and have a great day! -
what has to happen to get this thread locked??
Why? You've been here for 10 posts and have no idea what this thread is about. -
louhamilton wrote: »I appreciate the time you took to respond. This was civil, productive, and mature response.
I understand everything you posted and thank you. I can see the points of why people get intolerant, but I think by ignoring them is the best bet. If they get too unruly, get a mod involved. Again, this is the same process I teach my 6 and 8 year olds. Ignore the annoying kids, bullies, and trouble-makers. If they don't leave you alone or go away, then get a teacher or other adult involved to help intervene.
Thanks again and have a great day!
Lou, it's hard to ignore a personal attack such as crack smoking. Most of the time, not all, but most, I try to keep a civil attitude and either ignore or respond in a respectful way but when you get a known troll making accusations on a public internet board, that's where I draw the line.:)
