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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    this thread has gotten pretty immature,some members are coming across very,shall i say "snobbish"?dont want to start a fight here but shouldnt people just be happy others are enjoying the hobby?
    in the end,who cares what brand others buy...as long as him/her is happy,leave it alone


    i cant afford,nor feel the need to get $3000+amps,but i dont knock others who can/do.......
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    i cant afford,nor feel the need to get 3000+amps,but i dont knock others who can/do.......

    I don't knock them for not being able to afford better gear. You'd be missing the point if you thought that. I knock people who think no other gear is better. And I especially berate the individuals who start arguments after reading constructive and informative criticism of Emo gear.
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    anything less than HALO from Parasound can kiss my ****.[/QUOTE]?????????
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    just drop it!
    my only point is isnt there better things to discuss compared to 45 pages of trash talking one certain brand.....i bow out
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    anything less than HALO from Parasound can kiss my ****.
    ?????????[/QUOTE]

    Haha, now that's just good clean fun. Why so serious?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    just drop it!
    my only point is isnt there better things to discuss compared to 45 pages of trash talking one certain brand.....i bow out
    We're only on page 44, give it a few more hours. :D
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    Face wrote: »
    We're only on page 44, give it a few more hours. :D

    I know. I wasn't sure if I had tossed in my own stupid senseless comments. I'd hate to miss an opportunity to contribute.

    How are your Wyred4Sound components treating you these days? Let's add that brand to this mix as well. They're another great company worth hazing.
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    dude,im not seriously upset,i dont own any emo,would love to get an xpa-2.....
    that being said it seems others on here act like emo/adcom/etc
    are total"****" without justification,kinda like a bandwagon....i cant afford most "highend" amps nor would i give every dollar i got to own them so an average joe like me looks at companies such as emo,outlaw,adcom to get a good serious rig w/out spending a ton of money. just tired of the relentless flaming of emo,unless that company ripped you off....i dont see why any one person could go on and on dissing them....just my opinion
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,877
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    dude,im not seriously upset,i dont own any emo,would love to get an xpa-2.....
    that being said it seems others on here act like emo/adcom/etc
    are total"****"
    Nobody has said they are total ****, but they sure do smell like it sometimes.;)
    Thank the Emoettes for that one.
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    ...just tired of the relentless flaming of emo,unless that company ripped you off....i dont see why any one person could go on and on dissing them....just my opinion

    They rip off everyone they sell an amp to if they are walking away believing that Emo amps are the be-all end-all of the audio world.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    We aren't flaming the brand, per se...

    It's the people who are using them as their first entry level gear, and then come on here and spew everywhere that they're the best gear on the face of the planet. It isn't. They don't understand that, but insist on giving them "the win" over gear they've never even heard.

    It's completely ruined the brand for some people, including people who did own it. Talk to cstmar01 if you'd like. He's sold his gear simply because of the attitudes of other Emo owners.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    dude,im not seriously upset,i dont own any emo,would love to get an xpa-2.....
    that being said it seems others on here act like emo/adcom/etc
    are total"****" without justification,kinda like a bandwagon....i cant afford most "highend" amps nor would i give every dollar i got to own them so an average joe like me looks at companies such as emo,outlaw,adcom to get a good serious rig w/out spending a ton of money. just tired of the relentless flaming of emo,unless that company ripped you off....i dont see why any one person could go on and on dissing them....just my opinion

    I agree with you. Don't hate the company. Hate the fanboys.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited January 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Gives us something to talk about on a slow day. :D


    I have to agree.:D
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited January 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I agree with you. Don't hate the company. Hate the fanboys.


    I hate those blue LEDs!:D
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    anhchungdoan wrote: »
    I hate those blue LEDs!:D

    . . . But they let me know that sound is coming from my speakers. Plus, seeing the beat allows my white **** to really pull off some extravagant dance moves.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    Have we bashed AV123 yet?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,877
    edited January 2010
    The EMOETTES acually have their own forum!:D

    http://myhairisemo.blogspot.com/2009/01/dakota-rose-dear-koti.html
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Nobody has said they are total ****, but they sure do smell like it sometimes.;)
    Thank the Emoettes for that one.



    They rip off everyone they sell an amp to if they are walking away believing that Emo amps are the be-all end-all of the audio world.

    as said in previous post i said they arent the best .just would rather see more informative and constructive conversations......who cares anymore,i dont
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The EMOETTES acually have their own forum!:D

    http://myhairisemo.blogspot.com/2009/01/dakota-rose-dear-koti.html

    how do you guys find this stuff.......gotta give it to ya,thats pretty funny.
    im gonna google a site that does nothing but bash polk
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited January 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    We aren't flaming the brand, per se...

    It's the people who are using them as their first entry level gear, and then come on here and spew everywhere that they're the best gear on the face of the planet. It isn't. They don't understand that, but insist on giving them "the win" over gear they've never even heard.

    It's completely ruined the brand for some people, including people who did own it. Talk to cstmar01 if you'd like. He's sold his gear simply because of the attitudes of other Emo owners.

    I own the stuff that is right. Bought it, thought I might try it out. I'm joking a lot in the threads as thats what I do. Honestly though the way some of the fan bois say crap annoys me soo much. I honestly am embarrassed sometimes to even say I have it because of how they act. The stuff is ENTRY LEVEL. I was just starting out and tried it, found I didn't really care for it all that much. Honestly it works, and what not, but I found that a lot of the "claims" that emo owners have are not true. example
    1. I have a fan on my mono blocks (XPA-1) because I found they get very hot still even after 1 movie or about an hour of listening, and I'm not listening that loud, trust me, the meters never even move.
    2. I think they lack detail that everyone claimed they have. Yes I have more volume but its just that volume. Not detail.
    3. Its too in your face I'm gonna bash your head in with a shovel type of sound that I would rather pass on. For HT yeah its fine, dont' care, for music, eh I want something more netural and give a warmer sound like the tube amps I used to use when I was playing upright and eletric bass. The old fender amps we used in our jazz band was a great one.
    4. A lot of people seem to focus on the WATTS issue, its not just watts its the quailty of them. Give me 100 good ones over 500 crappy ones.
    5. yeah fine they have good prices, and so does some good used gear by rotel, adcom, pass labs, mcintosh, parasound, and what not that I would also like to try out and see if any good.

    So if I post something saying I don't like it, well there's my back up. I'm newer to this whole audio thing, but do spend most of my time in front of my computer which sits in front of my set up (gf's laptop) listening to music. and want to enjoy it the best way possible.
    I still have the XPA-1s but they will go, just gotta find some time to get them ready to go out and find what I want to replace them with. Also I hate the attiudes and it help drive me to sell as concelor said. seriously they are terrible and I won't go back.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    as said in previous post i said they arent the best .just would rather see more informative and constructive conversations......who cares anymore,i dont

    Yeah I get it. I think you are witnessing the aftermath of futile attempts to have the dialogue you suggest.

    Don't lost hope though. In all seriousness, I have a plan to move the Emotiva debate forward through constructive dialogue.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited January 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Yeah I get it. I think you are witnessing the aftermath of futile attempts to have the dialogue you suggest.

    Don't lost hope though. In all seriousness, I have a plan to move the Emotiva debate forward through constructive dialogue.

    and I do say fine sir, how do you conclude this may happen?
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I own the stuff that is right. Bought it, thought I might try it out. I'm joking a lot in the threads as thats what I do. Honestly though the way some of the fan bois say crap annoys me soo much. I honestly am embarrassed sometimes to even say I have it because of how they act. The stuff is ENTRY LEVEL. I was just starting out and tried it, found I didn't really care for it all that much. Honestly it works, and what not, but I found that a lot of the "claims" that emo owners have are not true. example
    1. I have a fan on my mono blocks (XPA-1) because I found they get very hot still even after 1 movie or about an hour of listening, and I'm not listening that loud, trust me, the meters never even move.
    2. I think they lack detail that everyone claimed they have. Yes I have more volume but its just that volume. Not detail.
    3. Its too in your face I'm gonna bash your head in with a shovel type of sound that I would rather pass on. For HT yeah its fine, dont' care, for music, eh I want something more netural and give a warmer sound like the tube amps I used to use when I was playing upright and eletric bass. The old fender amps we used in our jazz band was a great one.
    4. A lot of people seem to focus on the WATTS issue, its not just watts its the quailty of them. Give me 100 good ones over 500 crappy ones.
    5. yeah fine they have good prices, and so does some good used gear by rotel, adcom, pass labs, mcintosh, parasound, and what not that I would also like to try out and see if any good.

    So if I post something saying I don't like it, well there's my back up. I'm newer to this whole audio thing, but do spend most of my time in front of my computer which sits in front of my set up (gf's laptop) listening to music. and want to enjoy it the best way possible.
    I still have the XPA-1s but they will go, just gotta find some time to get them ready to go out and find what I want to replace them with. Also I hate the attiudes and it help drive me to sell as concelor said. seriously they are terrible and I won't go back.

    Good learning experience, what speakers are you using with the XPA-1s?
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    hey squal,where located in indy anyway?just went to ovation yesterday,they had $8,000 pr of paradigm powered by a $7,000 anthem amp......blew me away!
    Course i cant afford 1/2 the products they have....not much selection either,just wanted to test drive couple different amps....
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    audioquest diamondback 1m
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    pangea ac-9
    playstation3/120gb=blu-ray/media server
    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    hey squal,where located in indy anyway?just went to ovation yesterday,they had $8,000 pr of paradigm powered by a $7,000 anthem amp......blew me away!
    Course i cant afford 1/2 the products they have....not much selection either,just wanted to test drive couple different amps....

    I'm right in downtown Indy near the state house. You should check out Sound Solutions in Broad Ripple. They have some really nice Magico, Dynaudio, B&W, and Martin Logan speakers powered by Mac gear. That's some high end tunage.
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    i bought a mac preamp from them back in their old building....bout 10 yrs ago,just sold it while back,thing was 40+yrs old still wrked fine
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    ipod 8gb
    audioquest diamondback 1m
    "Maesto" straightwire cables
    pangea ac-9
    playstation3/120gb=blu-ray/media server
    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
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  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited January 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I own the stuff that is right. Bought it, thought I might try it out. I'm joking a lot in the threads as thats what I do. Honestly though the way some of the fan bois say crap annoys me soo much. I honestly am embarrassed sometimes to even say I have it because of how they act. The stuff is ENTRY LEVEL. I was just starting out and tried it, found I didn't really care for it all that much. Honestly it works, and what not, but I found that a lot of the "claims" that emo owners have are not true. example
    1. I have a fan on my mono blocks (XPA-1) because I found they get very hot still even after 1 movie or about an hour of listening, and I'm not listening that loud, trust me, the meters never even move.
    2. I think they lack detail that everyone claimed they have. Yes I have more volume but its just that volume. Not detail.
    3. Its too in your face I'm gonna bash your head in with a shovel type of sound that I would rather pass on. For HT yeah its fine, dont' care, for music, eh I want something more netural and give a warmer sound like the tube amps I used to use when I was playing upright and eletric bass. The old fender amps we used in our jazz band was a great one.
    4. A lot of people seem to focus on the WATTS issue, its not just watts its the quailty of them. Give me 100 good ones over 500 crappy ones.
    5. yeah fine they have good prices, and so does some good used gear by rotel, adcom, pass labs, mcintosh, parasound, and what not that I would also like to try out and see if any good.

    So if I post something saying I don't like it, well there's my back up. I'm newer to this whole audio thing, but do spend most of my time in front of my computer which sits in front of my set up (gf's laptop) listening to music. and want to enjoy it the best way possible.
    I still have the XPA-1s but they will go, just gotta find some time to get them ready to go out and find what I want to replace them with. Also I hate the attiudes and it help drive me to sell as concelor said. seriously they are terrible and I won't go back.

    I was actually considering a pair of XPA-1's and I have been in contact with several people who own them. Everybody has commented on how cool they run. What speakers were you using??
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    moodyman wrote: »
    I was actually considering a pair of XPA-1's and I have been in contact with several people who own them. Everybody has commented on how cool they run. What speakers were you using??

    A lot of Good Sound is personal taste and system synergy. My Rtia9s sound amazing with XPA-1s, but my old Emerald Physics CS2s sounded bad with a pair of XPA-2 amps.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,806
    edited January 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    The stuff is ENTRY LEVEL.

    I have no Emotiiva gear, probably never will. I do find it ridiculous that people keep calling it entry level though. Everyone I know buys separates for their first system.:rolleyes:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I have no Emotiiva gear, probably never will. I do find it ridiculous that people keep calling it entry level though. Everyone I know buys separates for their first system.:rolleyes:


    Apparently, you do not know what "entry level" means. :eek:
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    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    Entry Level is relative.
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