Whats with all the talk about Oppo BDP-83 ?

kolyan2k · March 2009

People around the web are screaming that its a killer player that has the best audio and video quality..........

Arent all none cheap (say above $300) bluray players will produce pretty much the same 1080p 24hz picture ?
And wont you get better Analog sound with ($200-$300) external DAC ?

I know it has a nice upscaling DVD chip, analog multi channel outs, plays SACD and DVDAs..........but if I dont need those features, is it even worth getting ?

F1nut · March 2009

People around the web are screaming that its a killer player that has the best audio and video quality..........

There's a lot of very gullible folks out there.

comfortablycurt · March 2009

It hasn't even been released yet as far as I know...so I don't know how anyone would really have any opinions as to it's picture or sound quality.

It does pack a lot of features in for it's price though. For only 500 dollars, IIRC, it has DVD, CD, SACD, DVD-A and Blu-ray playback. As well as support for several different picture discs, such as Jpeg's or Kodak picture CD's. It also has a USB input for connection of MP3's...which isn't really a plus for me, but it is for a lot of people.

That's a pretty formidable feature list, especially when you take into consideration that the only other Blu-ray players out there with SACD playback cost in the neighborhood of 1500 dollars and up.

As far as it's sound quality and picture quality though...only time will tell. There are many happy users of their other products though.

apphd · March 2009

There has been some beta testing and right now they have a program going where some were able to order one (that does not have all features running yet) at a some what reduced price. They are to give it a shake down run so to speak, report any problems and will be able to get all firmware updates when the final product is released. I think they had to sign some kind of a NDA but are able to release some info about it. This might be where some of the comments on PQ and SQ are coming from. Or it could be PIE comments from owners of one of the older products. There is a current thread running around here some place with some info. Here it is http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75510

Midnite Mick · March 2009

Unless the thing weighs 25 pounds it is just another blue ray/dvd player in my mind.

I have no idea why the audio side of the Oppo players get the hype that they do.

Mike

BlueFox · March 2009

Oppo. The Emotiva of DVD players.

kolyan2k · March 2009

Midnite Mick wrote: »

Unless the thing weighs 25 pounds it is just another blue ray/dvd player in my mind.

I have no idea why the audio side of the Oppo players get the hype that they do.

Mike

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/blu-ray-BDP-83-Features.aspx

it weights 11.2 lbs. like i said it does use VRS™ by Anchor Bay for DVD upscaling and packs all the features of CD, DVD, and Bluray player on the market. It also uses 2 DACs (for stereo and multi channel) The price is I believe $500-600 bucks.

What i dont get is why everyone is saying that it has a superior bluray picture quality, and how is it better then a stand alone CD Player or some good/cheap external DAC ?

ps. i think in avsforum they even compare it to some $3k+ players. I am pretty sure that any Sony or Panny Bluray with DAC will kill this Universal Oppo bluray for those 2 exact things, playing bluray and listening to analog 2-channel.

WilliamM2 · March 2009

The Oppo is supposed to be released in April. They have sold some under the EAP (Early adopters program) for $499. No one knows if that's a reduced price or not, as they have not announced the official MSRP yet.

What i don't get is why everyone is saying that it has a superior bluray picture quality, and how is it better then a stand alone CD Player or some good/cheap external DAC ?

I haven't seen anyone claim it has a better Blu-Ray picture. They are claiming that has incredible SD scaling, which I'm sure is true, it uses the same chip as the 983, which beat all other SD players.

apphd · March 2009

There's only one way for anyone to make that conclusion, buy both and see. But like many other things it is just subjective and could be like many other things and be synergy with the rest of the chain.

Poee7R · March 2009

BlueFox wrote: »

Oppo. The Emotiva of DVD players.

Not really.

The Oppo's usually work correctly, out of the box. :rolleyes:

Dave

NJPOLKER · March 2009

Poee7R wrote: »

Not really.

The Oppo's usually work correctly, out of the box. :rolleyes:

Dave

GOOD ONE

zx_toth · March 2009

I will be picking one of these up and put my PS3 out of video duty misery.

Though I dont think this player is the second coming of Christ, for me it makes sense.

1) Give my PS3 a break. Being proud and conscious of my setup with friends with lesser rigs or No rigs I am slightly embarassed when I claim to be a HT hobbyist and than proceed to put a Bluray movie into a video game console ... something seems wrong about that to me after saying I am INTO home theater. So a dedicated BDP is necessary in my own eyes, even if only for snobby reasons.

2) If the SD material is improved over the PS3 upconverting capabilities I will be elated as I still watch many DVD boxed sets not yet available on BD.

3) I dont have a seperate CD player and nothing that plays SACD. I have been very interested in SACD so this will help me dabble in that area without being out too much cash. If I like what SACD offers I will invest more money into a standalone player and some other upgrades. I have a PS3 that is newer so it does not play SACD.

Those are the main reasons I will be picking one of these up.

Zsolt

polkapolka · March 2009

comfortablycurt wrote: »

It hasn't even been released yet as far as I know...so I don't know how anyone would really have any opinions as to it's picture or sound quality.

It does pack a lot of features in for it's price though. For only 500 dollars, IIRC, it has DVD, CD, SACD, DVD-A and Blu-ray playback. As well as support for several different picture discs, such as Jpeg's or Kodak picture CD's. It also has a USB input for connection of MP3's...which isn't really a plus for me, but it is for a lot of people.

That's a pretty formidable feature list, especially when you take into consideration that the only other Blu-ray players out there with SACD playback cost in the neighborhood of 1500 dollars and up.

As far as it's sound quality and picture quality though...only time will tell. There are many happy users of their other products though.

The PS3 has SACD, and it is still only $400.

But, I get your point. Not trying to rain on your parade or anything.

Jetmaker737 · March 2009

Midnite Mick wrote: »

I have no idea why the audio side of the Oppo players get the hype that they do.

Maybe because people like the audio quality from their Oppo players?... just a wild guess. :rolleyes:

Midnite Mick · March 2009

Never thought of that.

Some people must like thin, edgy, mechanical, bassless sound I guess.

broncsrule21@ · March 2009

Very few PS3s have SACD..

Jetmaker737 · March 2009

Midnite Mick wrote: »

Never thought of that.

Some people must like thin, edgy, mechanical, bassless sound I guess.

I guess this is based on your 970? I have a 980 and I'm perfectly happy with it. But I've only compared it to the DACs in my Onkyo 805. It kicks butt on the Onkyo. Don't know how the 980 compares to the 970.

If there's better out there I guess I have upgrades to look forward to

Jetmaker737 · March 2009

More to the above... are you listening to your CD's through HDMI? If you go to AVS there's a lengthy discussion going on there now regarding sound quality issues with CD's over HDMI which does not occur with coax or optical. I listen to mine with analog out since I prefer the Oppo DAC's.

danz1906 · March 2009

You cant beat the Oppo for the price-Good Stuff:cool:

solarrdadd · March 2009

This player is going to be something special. It will play blu-ray's with the speed and quality (if not better) than the ps3, it will bitstream audio and it will have 7.1 analog for those who need it. I love bitstreaming my HD Audio to my receiver as I think it's decoder does a better job and sounds better at lower volumes than the ps3; plus my ego gets stroked when I see that codec light up on the receiver! it will also play SACD and DVD-A for those who have that. for the person who mentioned the ps3 plays SACD that was true for one iteration of the ps3 all newer ps3's do not play SACD discs. here is the latest news from engadget on their first go around with the player and yes, I will pick one up the day it's released! i've got lots of SACD's and DVD-A that have had nothing to do since my old pioneer player died a year and a half ago!

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/23/oppo-bdp-83-universal-blu-ray-player-first-impressions/

sorry if you have to cut & paste the link!

Please & Thank You!

F1nut · March 2009

This player is going to be something special.

Keep telling yourself that.

comfortablycurt · March 2009

polkapolka wrote: »

The PS3 has SACD, and it is still only $400.

But, I get your point. Not trying to rain on your parade or anything.

Only the first runs of the PS3's had SACD playback. They're very hard to come by now and aren't available at all except for in the used market, so that's not really a viable option for most people.

That being said...it's still a video game console either way. Not everyone really wants to have a video game console as their blu-ray/cd player...I know I wouldn't.

polkapolka · March 2009

comfortablycurt wrote: »

Only the first runs of the PS3's had SACD playback. They're very hard to come by now and aren't available at all except for in the used market, so that's not really a viable option for most people.

That being said...it's still a video game console either way. Not everyone really wants to have a video game console as their blu-ray/cd player...I know I wouldn't.

I didn't know that. Thanks for fillin' me in. It's also just helped me decide to go with a dedicated player, as that was one of the reasons I was thinking about going with the PS3 for my BR and dvd player.

Matt

mantis · March 2009

I currently own a Older Ps3 Sacd model and I plan on checking out the Oppo. I think it looks promising. I love the Idea of everything in one box.

Dan

pearsall001 · March 2009

Oppo has a knack of producing high quality players at realistic price points. I'll definetely check out their new BD player when it's released.

Grimster74 · March 2009

From the reviews I've read from the early adopters of this player all have been very positive. The thing that's struck my attention most is alot say at or near dvd speed when loading a Java enabled disk, alot say faster than the PS3. This is one of the players at the top of my list right now right behind the new Pioneer Elite coming out. Only time will tell.

mantis · March 2009

Grimster74 wrote: »

From the reviews I've read from the early adopters of this player all have been very positive. The thing that's struck my attention most is alot say at or near dvd speed when loading a Java enabled disk, alot say faster than the PS3. This is one of the players at the top of my list right now right behind the new Pioneer Elite coming out. Only time will tell.

And that says a lot as the Ps3 is smoking fast compared to all other current players. they have got a lot better as load times used to be over a minute. Fastest before the current models was 43 seconds help by Panasonic. I timed it myself.

I read a lot of people talking trash about Oppo calling them the Emotiva of audio. Unless you have personal experience with these products, how can you comment on them?

Dan

NeilGabriel · March 2009

Reading these threads often reminds me of when my kids were young and argued and the argument boiled down to "did not," "did to." For people who are suppose to appreciate the subjectivity of video and audio enjoyment (unless you listen to and watch specs and not the actual output), we sure seem to resort to a lot of sarcasm about another person's personal judgment. I love my Oppo DV-980 and found it superior to my two Pansasonics and more than superior to a Toshiba I had. Is it the best?, I doubt it. Are others better?, probably. Is your player better?....if you think so.

Ricardo · March 2009

If I ever decide to get a BD player, it will probably be the Oppo. Not looking for a music player, and Oppo has proven to design great video machines.

phipiper10 · March 2009

I've not moved to BD yet nor have I moved to SACD or true DVD-A(still using optical outs)

I will when I can find this player used.

Oppo has clearly garnered respect for upconverting video and by almost all accounts at least rivaled players costing much more.

Did I see the 983 In stereophile class B/C for some Audio playback...? I think they mentioned improving still the analog outs of this new player.

For an all arounder in the price range seems hard to beat. (I've never even heard/seen an Oppo)

Wish I had the time/money to find a stand alone in the price range of the OPPO for each format the Oppo will handle and see how it stacks up.

Get at $400 CDP, $400 SACD, $400 DVD-A and $400 BD
I bet the Oppo could rival/best some of these standalone.

Now since I have no proof who can back me up!!!!:p

Ron Temple · March 2009

phipiper10 wrote: »

I've not moved to BD yet nor have I moved to SACD or true DVD-A(still using optical outs)

I will when I can find this player used.

Oppo has clearly garnered respect for upconverting video and by almost all accounts at least rivaled players costing much more.

Did I see the 983 In stereophile class B/C for some Audio playback...? I think they mentioned improving still the analog outs of this new player.

For an all arounder in the price range seems hard to beat. (I've never even heard/seen an Oppo)

Wish I had the time/money to find a stand alone in the price range of the OPPO for each format the Oppo will handle and see how it stacks up.

Get at $400 CDP, $400 SACD, $400 DVD-A and $400 BD
I bet the Oppo could rival/best some of these standalone.

Now since I have no proof who can back me up!!!!:p

I've owned a couple of Oppos. There's no doubt about the video processing ability and for a budget player the units I own(ed) were an excellent value for high rez music. I'm leaning toward the new BD player. I think your comments above are right on target. It will do many things very well. No, it won't be audiophile grade, but will definitely fit in the videophile segment. Build quality will be adequate...that's the niche they are selling to...and support will be excellent. I've visited their office a couple of times. Nice guys and knowledgeble, but the US side of things is really just a small warehouse, sales and support. That's one reason they can sell so low.

Whats with all the talk about Oppo BDP-83 ?

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