So your wondering about Power Cords?

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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited February 2010
    Great idea, McLoki. I feel like I should be "in" this test since I started the post. However, I saw what I needed to order some for myself. Thanks - I will be following the reports of others and will weigh in my opinions, too.
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited February 2010
    Hmm....

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGAC9%20%20%20%20%200.6
    - Jeremy

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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    If it is not to late I would like to try this. Power cables are the last thing I have not yet tweaked, or even tried. I know just the company with off-the-wall power cable designs, but have not yet convinced myself to buy 6 power cables.

    Offer is open until the test reaches the last person and the cords are shipped back to me. Consider yourself in.
    squeeb wrote: »
    Great idea, McLoki. I feel like I should be "in" this test since I started the post. However, I saw what I needed to order some for myself. Thanks - I will be following the reports of others and will weigh in my opinions, too.

    requirement is 50 posts (not crap ones either) and you would be about 8th or 9th in line. That gives you about 2-4 months to come up with 15 more decent posts (at a 1-2week trial per person). Hang around and I am sure you will make it with no problem. I will add your name to the list and if you aren't still around or haven't posted at least 15 more times in the next 3 months or so - I will skip you. Sound fair?? :)
    Zitro wrote: »
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGAC9%20%20%20%20%200.6

    Never used it or heard of anyone who has. Signal Cable is a know quantity to me and that make it worth the slight extra cost. Just my opinion - Not saying its not the best deal in audio, just that I don't know.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,195
    edited February 2010
    This is very cool. People argue about upgraded any kind of wires without any practical experience. This is a very nice way to get some. Now you can honestly post if it made any difference or not.

    Nice going man. I'm not in as I have been down this road more then most.
    Dan
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2010
    Zitro wrote: »
    Hmm....

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGAC9%20%20%20%20%200.6

    I have two of the PC's...the Pangea AC-14 & the Pangea AC-9. I did a search on the designer, Jay Victor & he holds a boat load of patents on cable technology & design. He's very well known in the audio circles. But what really swayed me was this info found on PC Audio's site...http://www.psaudio.com/ps/products/description/perfectwave-ac-12-power-cable?cat=cables-accessories. PC audio relies heavily on Jay's patents & cable design for their best cables. I figured if Jay's knowledge is good enough for PC audio then why not give his cables a shot.

    Be for warned though, the build quality, looks & especially the massive size of the AC-9 is off the charts at this price...hell even at the PC Audio cable prices these cables are a steal. I'm extremely happy with both of Jay's cables & highly recommend them.

    The AC-9 is so massive that you need to allow extra length to get a good bend without too much pressure. At these prices they're worth a listen in your system. I know I'll be purchasing more.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited February 2010
    In, please~
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  • Slinger182
    Slinger182 Posts: 512
    edited February 2010
    Not in, but very cool.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2010
    Excellent work Michael. Not in as my SC & VD power cords are here to stay.
    Michael ;)
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared:

    Not trying to stir the pot, I simply believe many will hear improvements quicker as the PC gets closer to the source, that has been my experience (digital sources especially). There are differences in other components but the bang for the buck factor goes way down.
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited February 2010
    Quote:
    requirement is 50 posts (not crap ones either) and you would be about 8th or 9th in line. That gives you about 2-4 months to come up with 15 more decent posts (at a 1-2week trial per person). Hang around and I am sure you will make it with no problem. I will add your name to the list and if you aren't still around or haven't posted at least 15 more times in the next 3 months or so - I will skip you. Sound fair??

    You can keep me off the list. I plan on ordering 1 or 2 cords in a couple of weeks. I will continue to monitor what results polkies are getting from their tests and add my 2 cents after hooking up mine.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2010
    Wow.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2010
    LuSh wrote: »
    hearingimpared:

    Not trying to stir the pot, I simply believe many will hear improvements quicker as the PC gets closer to the source, that has been my experience (digital sources especially). There are differences in other components but the bang for the buck factor goes way down.
    I agree. Changes are subtle to almost non existent on the amps I own. The biggest differences I've heard while rolling PC's was on my Peachtree Nova. I believe the beefier the power supply, the less of a difference.
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  • praedet
    praedet Posts: 314
    edited February 2010
    pm'ed..
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I agree with your recommendation of source first. However, I noticed a definite improvement with my preamp and amp with an after market power cord and more so after it burned in. Definite decrease in the noise floor and the instruments and vocals were coming out of almost pure blackness.
    LuSh wrote: »
    hearingimpared:

    Not trying to stir the pot, I simply believe many will hear improvements quicker as the PC gets closer to the source, that has been my experience (digital sources especially). There are differences in other components but the bang for the buck factor goes way down.

    I don't think you are trying to stir the pot as I agree with your advice on going with the source first as that will reveal the benefit of an aftermarket power cord more so than preamps and amps. I was just sharing my experience.
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  • mini-me
    mini-me Posts: 70
    edited February 2010
    Not In but very cool effort by the OP and an excellent chance for some polkies to have first hand experience on the PC.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,034
    edited February 2010
    Lush, I also agree with your observations. That has been my experience as well.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    squeeb wrote: »
    You can keep me off the list. I plan on ordering 1 or 2 cords in a couple of weeks. I will continue to monitor what results polkies are getting from their tests and add my 2 cents after hooking up mine.
    The choice is yours... The opportunity is open if you change your mind.

    Good luck in your audio journey.
    praedet wrote: »
    pm'ed..
    You are in.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited February 2010
    Not in but Kind offering. I've been happy w/Signal MagicPower Digital Reference on my pre, CDP and MagicPower for the amp.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2010
    Nice offer....I have 2 jps p-cords,don't need any proof.
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited February 2010
    very nice of you Michael, after reading that thread I'm just gonna order one myself
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    And we're off.... Cords shipped out to Huck344 this morning.

    Tracking number will be PM'ed this evening.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    And we're off.... Cords shipped out to Huck344 this morning.

    Tracking number will be PM'ed this evening.

    Michael

    Recieved a note from Eric that the power cords arrived and he will start experimenting with them soon.

    NooshinJohn - I need you to PM me your address and a phone number (in case something comes up) so Eric can send them to you when he is done testing.

    Eric - Take your time and try it in a few different components. I expect at least a week or two for testing - no rush.

    Can't wait to hear opinions - one way or the other.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    Recieved a note from Eric that the power cords arrived and he will start experimenting with them soon.

    NooshinJohn - I need you to PM me your address and a phone number (in case something comes up) so Eric can send them to you when he is done testing.

    Eric - Take your time and try it in a few different components. I expect at least a week or two for testing - no rush.

    Can't wait to hear opinions - one way or the other.

    Michael

    Ditto, indeed.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2010
    Likewise, interested to read the feedback.

    Mark, anyway to "sticky" this thread? thanks bro..
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    Here is the current order of things.

    Huck344 ***** Currently testing *****
    nooshinjohn
    Big Dawg
    ben62670
    Conradicles
    polrbehr
    Zitro
    BlueFox
    TNRabbit
    Praedet

    Let me know if I missed anyone. Opportunity is open until the final person concludes his/her testing and ships the cords back to me.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2010
    Put me on the list too, if you don't mind.:)


    I've seen the differences that IC's and speaker cables can make, but I've gotta say, I still have some doubts about power cables. I'd love a chance to try it out in my own rig.

    Very nice offer.:)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2010
    The Signal Cable power cord is the bar standard for all my gear. It's the first thing that gets swapped and its modestly priced to boot.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited February 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I say the opposite for the Signal digital cord.

    Agreed. Made a difference when used with my CDP.
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited February 2010
    In. I changed my mind. If I get one of my own before I get the test one, I can see how it works with other components. Thanks again for the offer.

    This will also bump this back to the top and hopefully get some more interest in the name of sonic science.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2010
    Well, we are nearing 2 weeks for Huck344.... Forming any opinions yet?

    BTW - CCurt and Squeeb you are both in.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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