So your wondering about Power Cords?

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    The best way to say it I guess is that it took the edge off the system without losing detail, and gained some weight(good thing).
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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    Ben
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2010
    Hey check this out-- some controversy about the retail of this cable-- Ben-- are you up for making one?

    http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=2164.0
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    If I had the wire and ends I would be. I have some Carol SJ cable in 10ga, but that's it:(
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    Ben
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    One thing I am noticing is the ability os my system to play cleaner with more detail at low volumes. I'll shut up for now.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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    Ben
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,830
    edited March 2010
    Hey Mike-

    You may officially remove my name from the demo list, OK?

    If you didn't catch the thread, I just purchased a Magic Power cord from Notasuv this week, and I have a SignalCable Digitalreference power cord on its way to me this coming week to try out; so, rather than tie up this generous offer from you for two weeks, let the next person in line move up.

    Thanks,
    Harry
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,171
    edited March 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    One thing I am noticing is the ability os my system to play cleaner with more detail at low volumes. I'll shut up for now.


    Why, keep the comments coming.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    Well I put the stock cables back and Yuk! Everything has a digital edge to it, sounds louder too. I'll be revamping my cables as soon as money permits.
    Time to go to the next Polkie.
    Please send addy to my PM box
    Thanks for the opportunity.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    Real quick question. Anyone have any thoughts on burnin?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited March 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Well I put the stock cables back and Yuk! Everything has a digital edge to it, sounds louder too. I'll be revamping my cables as soon as money permits.
    Time to go to the next Polkie.
    Please send addy to my PM box
    Thanks for the opportunity.
    Ben

    Agreed Ben... The LAST thing I wanted to do was send these out. There is a noticeable lack of depth in my rig since they left. If I can buy them after the demo cycle is over I will gladly give them a good home.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
    Well I couldn't stand listening to my system without good cables so I made some with some 10'3 Carol cable I had laying around the house. I had ordered some IEC connectors and some Edison plugs. These sound every bit as good as the cables in the swap. We'll see how they burnin, or eve if they burnin.
    Thanks again McLoki
    Ben
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited March 2010
    Here is the current order of things.

    Huck344 .................. Results:.... Difference: Yes.........Worth Cost: MC - Yes, DRC - perhaps (mixed results)
    nooshinjohn ............. Results:.... Difference: Yes.........Worth Cost: Yes
    ben62670................. Results:.... Difference: Yes.........Worth Cost: Yes

    Conradicles - ***** Cords shipped out soon from Ben*****

    Big Dawg
    Zitro
    BlueFox
    TNRabbit
    Praedet
    comfortablycurt
    squeeb
    dbaldus
    cstmar01


    Let me know if I missed anyone. Opportunity is open until the final person concludes his/her testing and ships the cords back to me.

    Ben: As soon as I get the contact info from Conradicles I will send it to you. If you need to travel before you get them sent out - take care of business first. Their just cables, they can wait. Take care of your family my friend and God bless.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2010
    Send them to Zitro if possible. I need to move down a spot. Thanks folks!
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited March 2010
    Zitro and BlueFox - please send me your shipping info and a contact number via PM.

    Thanks,

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2010
    Just curious...who has these now? I was out of town for a week and that was why I needed to pass at that moment.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2010
    Conradicles - send your info off to ben and you will be getting the cables shortly. (we kind of stalled for a while....)
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    Conradicles - send your info off to ben and you will be getting the cables shortly. (we kind of stalled for a while....)

    Done and many thanks!
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2010
    Got the cables today Michael. Great job packing them Ben.
    I'm going to use this demo a bit differently:
    The longer digital cord will be used for my Pioneer Kuro Plasma HDTV and the shorter Magic Power will go to the PS3. I know my TV and PS3 extremely well and want to see if I can see any improvements in picture quality with my reference material.

    I will post honest reviews in a couple of weeks. Thanks for letting us do this Mcloki!!!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2010
    Are you using your PS3 as a DAC?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Are you using your PS3 as a DAC?

    No sir. Blu-ray, DVD and gaming.:cool:
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2010
    McLoki wrote: »
    Crap - now that you say that - my 6' cord is a digital reference power cord I think.....

    Now I could very well be wrong, but I think the longer cable is actually the MagicPower Video Reference.
    http://signalcable.com/videopower.html
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited May 2010
    I have some of these PCs, and I'll try to find some time to do a listening test. Should be easy on the sub especially.
    For Sale 2019:
    Tortuga Audio LDR passive preamp
    Decware EL34 amp
    Allnic H-1201 phono
    Zu Union Cubes
    iFi iDSD DAC, .5m UBS, iFI Gemini cable, Oyaide Tunami XLR 1.3M, Oyaide Tunami Speaker wire 1.5M, Beyerdynamic DT1990 headphones, PS Audio P3 power center

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2010
    DC, if you have a removable IEC on your headphone amp, that's a fun place to roll PC's.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited May 2010
    Funny you should mention that; I have heard DACs take well to this upgrade. I have a Maverick DAC at work, and pulled the PS Audio cord on it awhile back, so Monday I may bring in a Magic Power. Thanks.
    For Sale 2019:
    Tortuga Audio LDR passive preamp
    Decware EL34 amp
    Allnic H-1201 phono
    Zu Union Cubes
    iFi iDSD DAC, .5m UBS, iFI Gemini cable, Oyaide Tunami XLR 1.3M, Oyaide Tunami Speaker wire 1.5M, Beyerdynamic DT1990 headphones, PS Audio P3 power center

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2010
    Face wrote: »
    DC, if you have a removable IEC on your headphone amp, that's a fun place to roll PC's.

    Face,,I've got a SP PPX 3,,gimme some thoughts on PC''s,, I've rolled a few,,
    ? Thanks
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2010
    doctorcilantro wrote: »
    Funny you should mention that; I have heard DACs take well to this upgrade. I have a Maverick DAC at work, and pulled the PS Audio cord on it awhile back, so Monday I may bring in a Magic Power. Thanks.
    Rolling PC's on the Peachtree Nova made a much more obvious difference than on any other piece of gear I've owned.
    george daniel wrote: »
    Face,,I've got a SP PPX 3,,gimme some thoughts on PC''s,, I've rolled a few,,
    ? Thanks
    On my G/F's NuForce Icon, we tried a few PS Audio and Signal cords. It all depends on what your preference is. She prefers warmth, so the Signal Magic Power sounded best to her. There was also a big difference in noise floor from the stock PC to the Signal MP. I'm just glad she picked my least expensive cord. :D
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited May 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    I'm game, put me in line please.

    If I only add a single high quality power cord to my system, to which component should I connect it in order to hear the most difference? My sig lists my system.
    i hear if you wind them up in the shape of runic letters they work even better.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,171
    edited May 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Rolling PC's on the Peachtree Nova made a much more obvious difference than on any other piece of gear I've owned.

    On my G/F's NuForce Icon, we tried a few PS Audio and Signal cords. It all depends on what your preference is. She prefers warmth, so the Signal Magic Power sounded best to her. There was also a big difference in noise floor from the stock PC to the Signal MP. I'm just glad she picked my least expensive cord. :D

    I'm considering a Pangea for the office tube integrated. Did you notice most of your difference through headphones or speakers or both, Mike?

    On a side note I recently added (4) MIT Z II power cords to the main rig (amp, both pre-amps, dac) and they seem to make a difference. Only thing is I did this around the same time as the DAC mod so I'll have to swap the stock cords back in sometime to see which is what. I swear I get more bass (tighter too) out of the Aleph which was never even a problem before :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2010
    Except for the Nova(DAC), the biggest difference from from the Icon(headphone DAC/AMP). IMO, it appears that components with weak power supplies are those most affected by aftermarket PC's. I don't recall hearing a difference with my old Pass F5 clone.

    The only time I had a negative experience with aftermarket PC's was with my Belkin Pure AV Hybrid UPS, every aftermarket cord raised the noise floor. I tried to order another cord from Belkin so I could try it on other pieces of gear, but they wouldn't sell it separately.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited May 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I'm considering a Pangea for the office tube integrated. Did you notice most of your difference through headphones or speakers or both, Mike?

    On a side note I recently added (4) MIT Z II power cords to the main rig (amp, both pre-amps, dac) and they seem to make a difference. Only thing is I did this around the same time as the DAC mod so I'll have to swap the stock cords back in sometime to see which is what. I swear I get more bass (tighter too) out of the Aleph which was never even a problem before :)

    H9

    I gotta get me some of those . . . one day in the future, future!:(
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  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited May 2010
    Heckuva thing you're doing McLoki. I'd already planned on starting to play with power cords, so no need to convince me.
    Turntable: Empire 208
    Arm: Rega 300
    Cart: Shelter 501 III
    Phono Pre: Aural Thrills
    Digital: Pioneer DV-79ai
    Pre: Conrad Johnson ET3 SE
    Amp: Conrad Johnson Evolution 2000
    Cables: Cardas Neutral Reference
    Speakers: SDA 2.3TL, heavily modified
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