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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    X do you know that for sure?

    He definitely hasn't been burned at the stake here. I guess this is what we get for trying to help out a newbie.

    If you are right, I take back what I said to John and will tell this ls7 tool to take a hike.
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  • mhmacw
    mhmacw Posts: 832
    edited January 2010
    Holy ****! Shiny Happy People by R.E.M.!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    mhmacw wrote: »
    Holy ****! Shiny Happy People by R.E.M.!

    :confused::confused::confused:
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  • mhmacw
    mhmacw Posts: 832
    edited January 2010
    HONESTLY PEOPLE! Do you have anything that has any power that you dont have to warm up? Hey im gonna go jump in my dragster, roll it off the trailer to the line, fire it up and put the peddle to the floor! hope i dont break anything haha!
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited January 2010
    EMO shouldn't be argued here...the fact that a person believes that the Krell wasn't broken when it was out paced by an Onkyo AVR is all you need to know...I have a hard time believing that.

    It would be the same if a buddy of mine said he traded in all his Emotive gear for a Bose Wave Radio citing the Bose had more explosive dynamics and flatter tighter bass response. I wonder how many Emo owner's would question the person auditioning.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    You two need to keep the drama over there.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • jaxwired
    jaxwired Posts: 201
    edited January 2010
    mhmacw wrote: »
    HONESTLY PEOPLE! Do you have anything that has any power that you dont have to warm up? Hey im gonna go jump in my dragster, roll it off the trailer to the line, fire it up and put the peddle to the floor! hope i dont break anything haha!

    Huh? This has nothing to do with "warming up". The discussion has to do with "burn-in". The two are unrelated. Burn-in describes a physical change the components that comprise the electronics during it's initial usage. Burn-in begins during the first use and continues until some arbitrary time in the future when this physical metamorphisis ends and the product stabilizes and remains consistent thereafter.

    Amp warm up is pretty much undisputed.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    The drama still needs to stay over there.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    I agree the drama should be kept over there but X is just showing us what we are dealing with here. I commend him on his loyalty to our club even though I hardly ever agree with him.

    Hopefully this will be the last post in this thread. That creep ls7 should be banned as should selkec IMHO!!!

    I only use the ignore feature on a temporary basis but Ls7 & selkec are on it permanently.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    The drama still needs to stay over there.

    Agreed...


    Xcapri... your efforts do prove conclusively that the folks on that forum routinely come here to stir the crap, but I would ask that you follow the advice of others and let what happens in Emoland stay in Emoland.


    Thanks for having my back:cool:


    John
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited January 2010
    OP made a thread that is just as bad as SPAM imo.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    deleted....
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  • ls7z06
    ls7z06 Posts: 95
    edited January 2010
    Just amazing. I reported the same thing on the E-word forum as I reported here. Yes, the guy said you better not post that on Polk. I thought why not? Yes...I knew the Polk boys can be EMOtional about amps and gear, but still thought you should hear the report and might have some interesting comments on the Krell. I WAS NOT trying to stir up a fight. It is really not important enough to me to even fight about. This is simply a casual hobby for me (see post count). I don't live here and this is not where I find my life's highest joy. Hopefully you noticed I was not debating anything, just sharing my experience. Then it turns out the guy on E-word forum was right. Many of you freaked out and then I in turn told him so, and obviously in a way that indicated my surprise to the extent of my thrashing. He was more right than I thought he was. Then... the Polk detectives think they have discovered something because they discovered that discussion on E-word forum. (Like I was trying to hide it with the same screen name and topic!) I reported the same thing on E-word forum as I reported here. The one thing I said there, that I knew better than to say here, due to the risk of being flogged....was that now I would likely be loyal to their amps. Guess you really caught me there! Flog away. My post was not intended to start a fight or a contest. My report and my experience with these products was true and sincere. I do appologize for the trouble it stirred up.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    I am not buying your bs this time any more than I did the first time around. You KNEW what you were doing and were cheered on by your fellow Emoettes. It is not the gear I have a problem with. It is the fact that you guys come here and start these pissing contests repeatedly. This time it was exposed for what it was.

    I am Amazingly Disappointed in you. Take your Emo, lube it up nicely and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Then turn up the volume as loud as it can go.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • ls7z06
    ls7z06 Posts: 95
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I am not buying your bs this time any more than I did the first time around. You KNEW what you were doing and were cheered on by your fellow Emoettes. It is not the gear I have a problem with. It is the fact that you guys come here and start these pissing contests repeatedly. This time it was exposed for what it was.

    I am Amazingly Disappointed in you. Take your Emo, lube it up nicely and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Then turn up the volume as loud as it can go.

    You, sir are starting to annoy me. I posted a very tame report on a piece of equipment. I am obviously not some kind of expert on this stuff. And you proceded to just jump up my Azz sideways acusing me of being confrontational. I really hate to air this publically, but I believe you are a real freakin kook and would be well advise to expand your life beyond stereos, if you are capable. So keep posting if you like. I will not read another thread in this post.
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  • mini-me
    mini-me Posts: 70
    edited January 2010
    Nooshinjohn,

    It's perfectly fine that some people love EMOTIVA and put it in bed beside them. What's your problem to bash someone saying Krell doesn't sound as good as Emotiva?

    I don't give a **** to Emotiva but nothing (absolutely nothing) is be all and end all in this audio journey. It's just like the affair you fell for one time and then move on to the next one. Simple, huh?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    mini-me wrote: »
    Nooshinjohn,

    It's perfectly fine that some people love EMOTIVA and put it in bed beside them. What's your problem to bash someone saying Krell doesn't sound as good as Emotiva?

    I don't give a **** to Emotiva but nothing (absolutely nothing) is be all and end all in this audio journey. It's just like the affair you fell for one time and then move on to the next one. Simple, huh?

    You missed the point completely. Perhaps you should read through the Emotiva threads here then you will see what all the hullabaloo is about.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    ls7z06 wrote: »
    I am obviously not some kind of expert on this stuff.

    Apparently. If the Krell performed as you described (had to turn it up 80% to hear it) then a reasonable person would conclude the unit has a problem. Rather than concluding "Krell bad, Emotiva good", you should have exchanged the unit for another. Then if you get the same results your conclusion would have some supporting data.

    Also, for $2500 dollars there are a lot of new amps out there to be tried.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I am not buying your bs this time any more than I did the first time around. You KNEW what you were doing and were cheered on by your fellow Emoettes. It is not the gear I have a problem with. It is the fact that you guys come here and start these pissing contests repeatedly. This time it was exposed for what it was.

    I am Amazingly Disappointed in you. Take your Emo, lube it up nicely and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Then turn up the volume as loud as it can go.

    Who cares. Is a crucification necessary? I'll take him at his word that he's not purposefully trying to stir crap up. I don't think he has anything to gain or lose one way or the other. I certainly don't. If you don't like his posts ignore them.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2010
    +1 to what Bluefox said!!!! If I had that kind of cabbage to drop on an amp. I would damn well have done a lot of research on the internet and listening to many different amps before buying. That's just common sense...well most would think anyways.

    I would absolutley love to A/B one of the Emo amps against my Integra one day.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    ls7z06 wrote: »
    You, sir are starting to annoy me. I posted a very tame report on a piece of equipment. I am obviously not some kind of expert on this stuff. And you proceded to just jump up my Azz sideways acusing me of being confrontational. I really hate to air this publically, but I believe you are a real freakin kook and would be well advise to expand your life beyond stereos, if you are capable. So keep posting if you like. I will not read another thread in this post.
    You say you won't read another thread, but I bet you will.

    I don't care if I annoy you or your Emoette friends. We have Emotiva owners here that are well respected and who never get flak from the community for their choices in gear. It is only those of you that come here with an agenda (as you did) that get griefed.

    Man up and move on.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    Fongolio wrote: »
    Who cares. Is a crucification necessary? I'll take him at his word that he's not purposefully trying to stir crap up. I don't think he has anything to gain or lose one way or the other. I certainly don't. If you don't like his posts ignore them.

    Kelvin, did you read the links that XCapri posted. It's obvious that this thread was started on a dare from another Polk member on the Emotiva Lounge just to stir up the **** here. The guy made a fool out of each and every one of us who took him at his word and took the time to try to help him out then ran over to the Lounge and said we burned him at the stake.

    As far as I'm concerned he deserves everything he gets.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »

    As far as I'm concerned he deserves everything he gets.

    He deserves his Emotiva..............a worse punishment I can't think of!

    H9
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  • mini-me
    mini-me Posts: 70
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    You missed the point completely. Perhaps you should read through the Emotiva threads here then you will see what all the hullabaloo is about.

    Well, may be I do miss the point! But I don't want to read so much negativity about things (be it Emotiva or SunFire or Adcom or Krell) that is for everyone enjoyments!

    I think some Emotiva Fans and definitely this guy (LS7whatever) is a bit out of line and came here to stir up ****, I still think a lot of negativity and some language could be less harsh so Club Polk is a better place for everyone?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    ...I'd like to teach the world to sing
    ...In perfect harmony(lalalalala)
    ...I'd like to buy the world a Coke....


    Yea, peace and love is wonderful and all, but sometimes you need to man up and set things straight.

    Speaking of Cokes, it's time to turn this thread into an Emolounge...

    Bartender, a round for EVERYONE... on me!
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2010
    Interesting thread here.....http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76940

    Post #20.
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  • mini-me
    mini-me Posts: 70
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    ...I'd like to teach the world to sing
    ...In perfect harmony(lalalalala)
    ...I'd like to buy the world a Coke....


    Yea, peace and love is wonderful and all, but sometimes you need to man up and set things straight.

    Speaking of Cokes, it's time to turn this Emothread into an Emolounge...

    Bartender, around for EVERYONE... on me!

    Man up like sell the larger SDA and get a smaller one for the woman sake?

    Duh! I call that chicken up! :D:D;)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    I like this guy already! :D
    (even though I have a feeling he's not new ;))
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited January 2010
    5 pages on a thread that began yesterday? Really?

    As far as I'm concerned, you either like the product or you don't. Everyone has their own preferences, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that someone liked emotiva over krell or that someone likes olive garden over the authentic italian joint down the street.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I like this guy already! :D
    (even though I have a feeling he's not new ;))

    So do I, but it is possible the guy is looking at my old posts. The reference to my 1.2tl's was only three pages back. I am thinking Lightman may be Mini-Me
    because such a dig is very much his style:D
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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