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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    jvc wrote: »
    thanks for the update DK

    I am losing confidence in the Patent Process and the Bureaucracy.......

    USPTO Opens Exhibit of Michael Jackson’s Patent and Trademarks
    The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and the National Inventors Hall of Fame and Museum are presenting a special exhibit featuring material from Michael Jackson’s patent and trademark applications. The exhibit is free and open to the public starting Wednesday, July 15 and runs through Labor Day.

    Why?
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Sending me Christmas cards? :o It's too early now in July! :D
    I'll drive up there and give a kiss.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    DK Rocks! In all seriousness, Raife offers a lot of valuable info here. Above and beyond anything that most of us will do when it comes to the physics end of the gear we enjoy.
    F-Tards
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited July 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I'll drive up there and give a kiss.

    From you? :eek: I'll take flu infected swine over you anyday now!
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited July 2009
    DK never answered my questions.

    Good luck with the IEEE publishing. Will you present at a conference?
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    From you? :eek: I'll take flu infected swine over you anyday now!
    But mine taste like cinnamon...what say you?
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited July 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    But mine taste like cinnamon...what say you?

    Ok Sir Lightman! I think everyone has enough laugh and less tense in the thread. And still NO to your cinnamon tastes like kiss!

    Let's get back to the subject about how the sound changes as the Dielectric around an Audio Cables break in / burn in.

    For other types of cables that carries electricity, I don't want to go near it while the dielectric is broken in. I know electronics engineer are not safe from electrocution.
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    The dielectric properties of the jacket or the properties of the conductor itself?
    Or the breakdown of the insulation between the ground and conductor in the assembly of the cable?

    Better?
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited July 2009
    Can't you guys do better?

    Some what boring.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    It's half-time BZ. Let them rest and catch their breath.

    I'm a troll. W00T!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Did you just call me a jerk?
    Yep. I did.
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  • Flash21
    Flash21 Posts: 316
    edited July 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Please explain to me how bias can be removed from the evaluation of a subjective stimulus. Even if the listener does not know what equipment is being evaluated, he or she still has listening biases and preferences.
    Yes, my statement was overly general out of context, perhaps you could not tell that I was referring to a discussion of "expectational bias" specifically.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited July 2009
    bikezappa wrote: »
    Can't you guys do better?

    Some what boring.

    Sorry! I am poofed now! :o Wifey said summer beach party is coming and I must preserve strength to do more push-up to break in the fats in my Pot Belly or I won't get any.....













































































    MAYO over SAUSAGE for my dogs!


    :D:D:D
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    interesting relationships
    PAT. NO. Title
    1 7,126,055 Apparatus and methods for dielectric bias system
    2 5,681,183 Accessible VCR jack assembly
    3 5,677,959 Audio signal source balancing adapters
    4 5,527,995 Cable for conducting energy
    5 5,307,416 Bias circuit for cable interconnects
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    Mega has been drinking again. Expect ramblings worse than mine.



    He said sausage dog...........
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    thought biases that was being spoken about

    Dielectric Bias Systems ( oops not similiar to Bias Circuit System : Coaxial)
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited July 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    It's half-time BZ. Let them rest and catch their breath.

    I'm a troll. W00T!

    Thanks. Sometimes I'm just stupid.

    Time for a beer and a dog.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited July 2009
    My opinions are biased, simply because I refuse to listen.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    There are HUNDREDS of Biases and sub categories of biases.

    It may be that we see symptoms of Pariedolia biases occurring.....

    ain't it so much fun !
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    check to make sure that
    there are no symptoms of
    "Apophenia"
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    jvc wrote: »
    check to make sure that
    there are no symptoms of
    "Apophenia"

    Mr Chen, I see your upping your post again with useless posts
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    I'll chill after this one....

    Murphy's Law of Research dictates that "Enough research will tend to support your theory."
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    jvc wrote: »
    I'll chill after this one....

    Murphy's Law of Research dictates that "Enough research will tend to support your theory."

    Heiney's Law states: "Too many useless posts makes one utterly useless and annoying to the point of releasing the KRAKEN"

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited July 2009
    The folks at AQ and most of the others also say cables are directional. I guess thats not true too. They just go around making things up to make there products more sophisticated.
    I turned the Type 4's around and was able to hear a difference. The sound was not quite as clear and the separation was much better.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    The folks at AQ and most of the others also say cables are directional. I guess thats not true too. They just go around making things up to make there products more sophisticated.
    I turned the Type 4's around and was able to hear a difference. The sound was not quite as clear and the separation was much better.

    Is that a typo or are you saying the separation was better with the cable in the wrong direction?
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited July 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Is that a typo or are you saying the separation was better with the cable in the wrong direction?

    The separation was far better when run in the proper direction.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,775
    edited July 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    The folks at AQ and most of the others also say cables are directional. I guess thats not true too. They just go around making things up to make there products more sophisticated.

    No need to guess, since the signal is A/C, and it flows both directions.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2009
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    No need to guess, since the signal is A/C, and it flows both directions.

    The directional indicator is for the drain...........nothing more, nothing less.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited July 2009
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    No need to guess, since the signal is A/C, and it flows both directions.

    William, you need to be careful here because you may break their ballon of believe and cause serious mental issues. Remember the Tinker Bell problem?

    Don't you think it's possible that this techno crap is all a joke?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2009
    bikezappa wrote: »
    William, you need to be careful here because you may break their ballon of believe and cause serious mental issues. Remember the Tinker Bell problem?

    Don't you think it's possible that this techno crap is all a joke?

    This from the guy who's always whining about name calling.
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