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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,496
    edited February 2009
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    Don't sweat the radon, it decays very quickly. It loves to hang onto plastic, so leave your hard hat at home.:D

    My chaps are leather, and I don't wear a hard hat, so no worries.
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  • moe
    moe Posts: 48
    edited February 2009
    I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome,my name is moe and I'm addicted to Cake and Radon.(flame suit on)I've had pie for many years,I don't consider it better than Cake.I've had some very nice pie,twice the price of Cake,but still prefer Cake.
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited February 2009
    moe wrote: »
    I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome,my name is moe and I'm addicted to Cake and Radon.(flame suit on)I've had pie for many years,I don't consider it better than Cake.I've had some very nice pie,twice the price of Cake,but still prefer Cake.

    That was World Class... You officially fit into this thread! :cool::D
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  • Retro152
    Retro152 Posts: 985
    edited February 2009
    moe wrote: »
    I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome,my name is moe and I'm addicted to Cake and Radon.(flame suit on)I've had pie for many years,I don't consider it better than Cake.I've had some very nice pie,twice the price of Cake,but still prefer Cake.

    Hey Moe!........... Welcome!:D
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2009
    What happened to everyone here?

    cnh
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    We came down with emu poisoning.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited February 2009
    I'm still thinking about not ordering any EMO gear.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    Things are quiet just because as we speak (or type), a group of polkies are getting into an underground location in Illinois. The reason that got all these polkies converge in this unidentified location? They will demo an EMO.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Things are quiet just because as we speak (or type), a group of polkies are getting into an underground location in Illinois. The reason that got all these polkies converge in this unidentified location? They will demo an EMO.

    LOL! will you be serving it for dinner?:D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote:
    LOL! will you be serving it for dinner?:D

    Joe....They are having PIE...with cake for desert!
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    LOL! will you be serving it for dinner?:D
    shack wrote: »
    Joe....They are having PIE...with cake for desert!

    Wow I didn't know Sona was back in circulation.:D
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,496
    edited February 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Things are quiet just because as we speak (or type), a group of polkies are getting into an underground location in Illinois. The reason that got all these polkies converge in this unidentified location? They will demo an EMO.


    Yes, everything you said has materialized! Shown below, an RAS member pays homage to the mighty Emo... or was he tripped and bracing for the fall? Begging for it to start? Stop?:p (j/k:D) Praying to the remote gods so Aaron didn't have to run back and forth switching tracks?.....tune in tomorrow for the next episode of As The RAS Turns!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Yes, everything you said has materialized! Shown below, an RAS member pays homage to the mighty Emo... or was he tripped and bracing for the fall? Begging for it to start? Stop?:p (j/k:D) Praying to the remote gods so Aaron didn't have to run back and forth switching tracks?.....tune in tomorrow for the next episode of As The RAS Turns!

    WAAAAAAAAAAA as the RAS turns.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2009
    Very nice post Xcapri!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2009
    You guys think we can get this one to 700 posts?
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,188
    edited March 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    You guys think we can get this one to 700 posts?
    We might be headed for four figures, I fear, Ricardo ... :eek:! I was hoping this one was finally dead ... unless somebody wants to try tickling F1nut ... I bet that might lead to some interesting events to share with fellow Polkies:

    - How did the perpetrator actually succeed in doing it,
    - What happened next,
    - What is the perpetrator's current location and is he expected to recover,
    - Did F1 tickle him back, or just throw his emu at him,
    - Do either of them even own an emu ...

    So many questions could arise from such an amazing event!
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2009
    People sometimes have a strange reaction to a genuine value.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2009
    what a load of crock that guy in 594 above spewed out, Ricardo still has not been paid for sending his unit back three times. instead somebody sent him some interconnects...........
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  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited March 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    what a load of crock that guy in 594 above spewed out, Ricardo still has not been paid for sending his unit back three times. instead somebody sent him some interconnects...........

    They paid for shipping when they sent me a new XPA-5, and also didn't charge me for that amp at all, never paid a dime. And then when i decided to just keep the XPA-3 i had instead of the XPA-5, they paid for the return shipping for it as well.

    I guess it's a "you're mileage may very" sort of thing in.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    steveinaz wrote: »
    People sometimes have a strange reaction to a genuine value.

    I actually have a post all ready to go for this thread. No strange reaction here. Finally got my ears on Emo and I was woefully underwhelmed. I will post my impressions later. I had high hopes based on all the fan boy comments........what a disappointment.

    Let's just say "the value" shines through when listening. To be fair I had almost the same reaction to Outlaw amps a few years ago when they were the internet flavor of the month.

    H9
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  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited March 2009
    metal83 wrote: »
    Wow, all this talk of pies (and cake), you guys must be a bunch of chubby SOB's

    There are other types of PIE also.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    what a load of crock that guy in 594 above spewed out,

    I agree........
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2009
    Still not ordering any Emo gear...so I still don't/won't have anything to report.

    I have however ordered some Junior's "Most Fabulous" New York Cheesecake. One plain and one chocolate swirl. They should be delivered tomorrow. It sorta looks like pie...but of course it isn't.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    shack wrote: »
    It sorta looks like pie...but of course it isn't.

    It's better than PIE!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited March 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I actually have a post all ready to go for this thread. No strange reaction here. Finally got my ears on Emo and I was woefully underwhelmed. I will post my impressions later. I had high hopes based on all the fan boy comments........what a disappointment.

    Let's just say "the value" shines through when listening. To be fair I had almost the same reaction to Outlaw amps a few years ago when they were the internet flavor of the month.

    H9

    Did you swap amps (A/B) during your audition? I'm still amazed people say they can tell the difference between SS amps, I've never been able to do it during blind listening tests (Amps where behind the rack with friend swapping cables).
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    Matt34 wrote: »
    Did you swap amps (A/B) during your audition? I'm still amazed people say they can tell the difference between SS amps, I've never been able to do it during blind listening tests (Amps where behind the rack with friend swapping cables).

    It's actually very easy to tell a difference. We listened to Adcom, Emo, Monarchy, Pass and Marsh..........they all sounded different. As do cables, cdp's, dac's and just about anything else in the chain.

    Again, I have a more descriptive post ready to go at home.

    As always....YMMV

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2009
    There was a definite difference in SQ and sound signature. Unless you have a basis of comparison it's hard to hear the distinct defferences in sound signature between amps, pre-amps, cables, etc. My take on the Emotiva is that like many direct-to-consumer companies they pick their market niche and price strategy based on research, then manufacture to that price point. It was also clear to me that the Emotiva amp we listened to was tuned for HT use. Quite frankly I think that the sound signature it produced was pretty close to some of the Outlaw Audio gear I have owned or listened to. I found the sound signature of the Emotiva amp to be narrower in width, not having the depth/weight front-to-back or the dynamic slam that I like in an amp. Is that necessarily bad, maybe not in general HT use, and probably compares favorably at the price point. Does that mean it's a bad amp ........ well I ran Outlaw Audio amps that were pretty similar for quite a few years in my HT system. I was happy with them until I heard something I liked better.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,188
    edited March 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    ... We listened to Adcom, Emo, Monarchy, Pass and Marsh..........they all sounded different ...
    dkg999 wrote: »
    ... It was also clear to me that the Emotiva amp we listened to was tuned for HT use ...
    I sincerely hope that these reviews, and whatever others may be coming from the same august company at the gathering, will eventually be posted in a different REVIEW thread. It would be a shame to bury them in this rather lengthy, and now comical one.

    I would also agree that I think the Emotiva LPA-1 I owned briefly was mostly tuned for HT use, as many surround capable receivers probably are too, I suppose.
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited March 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's actually very easy to tell a difference. We listened to Adcom, Emo, Monarchy, Pass and Marsh..........they all sounded different. As do cables, cdp's, dac's and just about anything else in the chain.

    Again, I have a more descriptive post ready to go at home.

    As always....YMMV

    H9

    Due to my own experiences I'm defiantly on the objectivist side of the fence when it comes to these things, however I do look forward to the review.
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  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited March 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    I sincerely hope that these reviews, and whatever others may be coming from the same august company at the gathering, will eventually be posted in a different REVIEW thread. It would be a shame to bury them in this rather lengthy, and now comical one.

    +++++1000. H9, please start a new thread. I don't have a dog in this fight but would very very interested in hearing your thoughts. Your reputation here speaks for itself and I would hate to see your comments buried in this thread.
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