Stupid neighbor wants to shoot me.

ttomp

Friday night I decided to take a walk around the block and stop at the playgrown at the end of our street (decent neighborhood 200k and up ) with my 2 year old daughter, so my wife decides to tag along with our 3 month baby boy , I put the girl on her little barbie car so I can push her, and my wife is carrying the baby on her arms, since is dark and Houston is not the safest city no matter where you live , I get my .45 inside my waistband on a holster (I have a ccw permit), and get my little surefire flashligh so if a car is comming when we are crossing the street I can shine it at the floor so they can see us better; As soon as we start walking I get a funny feeling, and ten second later I see the pot head that lives with her mom at the end of the street playing with his rottweiler without a leash, 1 second later the dog sees me and starts running towards us barking and the idiot (owner) doesn't do anything about it, so when he gets about 20 feet I flash him on the face and he stops running since I'm sure he is blinded for a second, but keeps barking and coming towards us; At this time the mf pothead is still in front of his house about 40 yards away just watching so I yelled at him to come get his dog , his response ... he's cool.. WTF? the dog is trying to circle around so he can get away from the light in his eyes and he was abot 10 feet away by then, he is still barking so I pull my gun and point it towards the dog , that gets the idiot finally moving to get his dog, and all he said was , oh he's cool dude.

I'm glad that I didn't have to shoot the dog but it pisses me off that this idiot has this 100+ pounds dog without a leash.

Now the worst part, Sunday I'm taking the girl to the swiming pool right about six, I open the garage door and there is the same idiot passing in front of my house with the same dog without a leash, so Iput my baby inside the car when this MF comes walking to my and tells me " If you ever threaten my dog again I'll shoot you I have a gun too" so I told him put that mf dog on a leash so you don't have to worry about it, and he said " I'm 23 years old I can do whatever I want to do and if you do something to my dog I'll kill you , so I told him let me call the police and you can tell them that and he was like : call whoever you want I'm 23 years old I have a gun too so I told him I'm 32 years old so I can woop you **** if I want to , but I'm just calling the cops instead, so the mf just waks away and his dog goes to the next house over to take a crap but the owner who happens to be a retired sheriff tell him to get his dog and get the **** out of his property and he replies " don't tell me what to do I'm 23 I can do whatever I want to and walks away.

So the ex-sheriff heard everything and also told me to call the cops which I did since he threatened me, the sheriff shows 2 hours later fills out a report and gave me a case number and tells me to call in about 5 days to check on the case, and before he leaves he tells me I'd shoot the dog if I was you, so now I have to wait and see if he is going to be charged with terroristic threats, the part I hate is that my wife stays at the house with the babies by herself all day, I guess I'm going to have to taker to the shooting range this weekend to teach her how to use the shotgun and the and the handgun.

nspindel

I say drop the 23-year-old punk

F1nut

Something must be in the water down there.

tcrossma

Nice neighborhood. Rottweiler and a potsmoking crazy kid with a gun. But is it just me or does anyone else find it disturbing to pull a gun on a dog that's barking at you? Whatever, maybe I just live in never never land but if that's the case, I'm glad I do.

ttomp

tcrossma wrote: »

Nice neighborhood. Rottweiler and a potsmoking crazy kid with a gun. But is it just me or does anyone else find it disturbing to pull a gun on a dog that's barking at you? Whatever, maybe I just live in never never land but if that's the case, I'm glad I do.

What would you do in my situation? wait for the dog to bite you or one of the babies so you can tell him "BAD DOGGIE" and hit him with a news paper?. But if you care more about a dog than the safety of your family that is fine with me. If you read the post we are not talking about a chihuahua that you can spit at it and drown it. a big dog like that is a real threat even to a healty average size adult.

Like I said it's a good neighborhood it's just this idiot that has had problems with others neighbors before, everybody else gets along very good.

AsSiMiLaTeD

In that situation I'd definitely make sure she knows how to defend herself with the guns.

As a side note, as a general rule I firmly believe that anyone in your house who has access to your guns needs to be fully trained in their use. That's not saying that every guy who has a wife should force her to learn how to use the gun, but if he's going to keep it in a spot where she can get to it, she needs to know how to use it.

What I absolutely do NOT want is my wife finding herself in a precarious situation, and in a lapse of judgment grabbing one of my firearms of which she has absolutely no knowledge and confronting an intruder with it only to have it turned on her because she didn't know how to use it.

I'm a fairly new gun owner myself. I have two handguns at this point, but before a month ago had never owned or shot anything. When I bought my first Sig, I gave my wife two choices (this is after of course I bought the gun with her blessing):

1 - I understand if you don't want to have anything to do with the gun. In that case, I'll buy a gun safe and keep the guns stored there, but you will NOT have access or know the code to that safe.
2 - If we're going to keep the guns in a place where you can access them, then you're going to learn how to handle them - and you're going to fire them at least a couple times a year.

She chose the latter, for which I'm grateful.

nspindel

If I've got a piece on me, a permit to have it, my little kids next to me, and a 100lb. rottweiler circling me and my family and barking at us, that .45 ain't staying in my waistband long...

Demiurge

If I was in your situation I know I wouldn't be plotting anything on a web forum.

Lawyers love it when you do, though.

ttomp

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Originally Posted by tcrossma
Nice neighborhood. Rottweiler and a potsmoking crazy kid with a gun. But is it just me or does anyone else find it disturbing to pull a gun on a dog that's barking at you? Whatever, maybe I just live in never never land but if that's the case, I'm glad I do.

What would you do in my situation? wait for the dog to bite you or one of the babies so you can tell him "BAD DOGGIE" and hit him with a news paper?. But if you care more about a dog than the safety of your family that is fine with me. If you read the post we are not talking about a chihuahua that you can spit at it and drown it. a big dog like that is a real threat even to a healty average size adult.

Like I said it's a good neighborhood it's just this idiot that has had problems with others neighbors before, everybody else gets along very good.

ttomp

Demiurge wrote: »

If I was in your situation I know I wouldn't be plotting anything on a web forum.

Lawyers love it when you do, though.

I'm not plotting anything I pray that I never have to use my gun on anybody not even a dog.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Not to mention....

Isnt' there some kind of leash law?

ttomp

yes there is, the deputy told me if I see the dog without a leash again call them since we have leash laws inside the city.

hockeyboy

All I can say is that I live in a good neighborhood too. That is why I generally always leave my gun inside. True, the kid should have his dog on a leash. Absolutely no doubt about it. Also true the kid is being a little jerk. I can't blame him though if a guy walking down the street in a good neighborhood is brandishing a firearm, no matter the legal issues involved.

treitz3

Next time shoot the damn dog. Your family is more precious than a smart-**** potheads dog. A dog that size is a legitimate life threatening situation. People in Texas have been shot for stealing. Why wouldn't you off a dog that's posing quite a bit more of a threat.

All it takes is one time and your kids are dead or maimed. You have a right to defend your family. That's what I think at least. Others may not agree.

DollarDave

treitz3 wrote: »

Next time shoot the damn dog. Your family is more precious than a smart-**** potheads dog. A dog that size is a legitimate life threatening situation. People in Texas have been shot for stealing. Why wouldn't you off a dog that's posing quite a bit more of a threat.

All it takes is one time and your kids are dead or maimed. You have a right to defend your family. That's what I think at least. Others may not agree.

I completely agree. Shoot the dog.

George Grand

Leash laws are meaningless to the person whose loved one has already been mauled.

I got the biggest Rott you have ever seen living right next door. That thing has to be 150lbs. When it was about 3-4 months old, it started the digging its way under my fence into my backyard routine. My fence is at least six inches inside my property line. I approached the owner, a young military guy, maybe 25 years old. Anti-social as hell. His response was to put cinderblocks into the offending area every time the dog dug a new hole. Real freakin' meathead. I indicated that I didn't like my property getting torn up, and that my daughter was now afraid to sunbathe with her headphones on, in her own fenced in yard. His response was sort of a snicker. I interpreted that as WAR. He asked me what I was going to do, in a real sarcastic tone. I told him, that if he really wanted to test the raw power I possess, I would have him and his lovely bride living back on the airbase by the next weekend. That boy stormed off, but smartened up by dinnertime the next night. That's when he came knocking on the door with his tail between his legs and a whole bunch of dog control ideas.

He was walking that thing the other night, and 5 little girls were in the area. All of them maybe 4 or 5 years old. It was all that boy could do to hold that dog back from ripping those little girls apart. He looked at me and said, "I don't know why he don't like kids."
Maybe because for the first three years of its life, the only thing that dog ever saw was his owner, his wife, and the backyard twice a day. No other human contact, especially by the little kids. He's never outside for them to torment him in any way, shape, or form.

I feel for you down there man, cause we've got a bad one right here next door. And it's going to happen someday. That thing hits the big bay window sometimes when someone goes walking by the house. 150 lbs of dog is going through that glass someday. Good luck bud.

bobman1235

tcrossma wrote: »

Nice neighborhood. Rottweiler and a potsmoking crazy kid with a gun. But is it just me or does anyone else find it disturbing to pull a gun on a dog that's barking at you? Whatever, maybe I just live in never never land but if that's the case, I'm glad I do.

A large attack dog running up to your family and baby while barking isn't "some dog barking at you", it's a possible attack. It's not like dog attacks don't happen, especially with dog breeds like rottweilers (and I know it's the owner not the breed, blah blah, this owner doesn't sound like a prize either so I stand behind the statement).

There are lots of situations where people are a little too cavalier about brandishing a weapon, but this one seems perfectly legit. He didn't shoot the thing, after all, he was just prepared if he had to.

ttomp

bobman1235 wrote: »

A large attack dog running up to your family and baby while barking isn't "some dog barking at you", it's a possible attack. It's not like dog attacks don't happen, especially with dog breeds like rottweilers (and I know it's the owner not the breed, blah blah, this owner doesn't sound like a prize either so I stand behind the statement).

There are lots of situations where people are a little too cavalier about brandishing a weapon, but this one seems perfectly legit. He didn't shoot the thing, after all, he was just prepared if he had to.

Exactly I pulled out my gun to be PREPARED , as soon as the idiot got a hold of his dog I re-holstered my gun , my wife didn't even saw the gun on my hand, it was no more than 20 second outside it's holster , I'm pro gun, but i'm not a gun crazy individual, I could have shot the dog since I feared for my safety and my family's but I chose no to do it , because I'm a RESPONSIBLE dog owner myself and I'd hate to see my dog getting killed for whatever the reason , but I would never put myself or somebody else in that situation.

cfrizz

I love dogs but that would be one dead dog!

ttomp

hockeyboy wrote: »

All I can say is that I live in a good neighborhood too. That is why I generally always leave my gun inside. True, the kid should have his dog on a leash. Absolutely no doubt about it. Also true the kid is being a little jerk. I can't blame him though if a guy walking down the street in a good neighborhood is brandishing a firearm, no matter the legal issues involved.

I wasn't walking anywhere brandishing a firearm , did you read the post? I pulled out my gun to be prepared , as soon as the threat went away ( 20 to 30 seconds ) so did my gun.

besides "KID" what kid? he is 23.

candyliquor35m

I bought some Muzzle dog repellent (pepper spray) and have it plastic tied to my cell phone.

Face

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

As for pepper spray, it doesn't always work on dogs, humans either.

hockeyboy

All I am saying is I would be surprised if anyone yanked a gun out in the street in my suburban Dallas neighborhood. Not gettin' on you TTOMP, I wasn't there. Hey, I guess I am getting old because that 23 year old sure sounds immature to me. Some dipshits shouldn't own dogs man.

exalted512

I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who carry in your area hockey. More than likely, a lot more than you think.
-Cody

tcrossma

ttomp wrote: »

What would you do in my situation? wait for the dog to bite you or one of the babies so you can tell him "BAD DOGGIE" and hit him with a news paper?. But if you care more about a dog than the safety of your family that is fine with me. If you read the post we are not talking about a chihuahua that you can spit at it and drown it. a big dog like that is a real threat even to a healty average size adult.

From reading your post it sounded like the dog was keeping its distance for a good amount of time just harassing you and barking at you while you watched the owner, then yelled at him to come get his dog. It doesn't sound like the dog was mounting an attack, but hey, I wasn't there.

The 23 year old is completely irresponsible for letting his dog off the lease, and I know rott's can be *very* dangerous dogs (I'm not a big fan of them).

But I've never seen someone pull a gun on anyone or anything -- it just doesn't happen in my neck of the woods I guess. If there's a mean-**** dog barking at me (and yes, it's happened many times in my life) I'll back off and call the police, not shoot it.

You just seemed a little cavalier about pulling out a gun in the middle of your nice neighborhood, that's all. For some reason it doesn't sit right with me, sorry.

Face

tcrossma wrote: »

You just seemed a little cavalier about pulling out a gun in the middle of your nice neighborhood, that's all. For some reason it doesn't sit right with me, sorry.

Massachusetts and Texas are two VASTLY different places in that respect.

bigaudiofanatic

Shoot that darn dog or use the car your choice.

george daniel

bigaudiofanatic wrote: »

Shoot that darn dog or use the car your choice.

or the owner

obieone

+1! That kid sounds like a total LUZAH, and will just be a burden on society.
The dog can probably be reprogrammed, but the owner? NAH!

bigaudiofanatic

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jflail2

A nice t-bone marinated in anti-freeze for a couple of days should also do the trick (if that is indeed the only dog roaming the hood sans leash.)

Don't blame you a bit for pulling the piece. Protect the family at all costs....