Interest Check - Led Zeppelin Karma

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Silly question, I don't suppose there's any cover art for the 1972-02-25 Auckland, New Zealand show???
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Silly question, I don't suppose there's any cover art for the 1972-02-25 Auckland, New Zealand show???

    Not for that particular fan release.

    Alternate artwork can be found here if you want to include it with your show.

    www.zeppelinart.com

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Cool, I'll check it out. Long as I've got something to display on my iphone ;-)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    I appreciate all the positive comments and yes, Southampton could be considered the "holy grail" (of audio recordiings) as far as the sound quality and powerful recording as it's essentially an unfinished professional mix down.

    But the (3) shows coming up are not to be missed either.

    Vienna is a matrix of the soundboard and audience sources and the playing is phenomenal and the sound quality is very good to excellent.

    Essen is a newly discovered complete audience recording taken from (2) different masters from two different recordings and the performance is beyond belief. The sound quality is very good, but not great

    Offenburg is outstanding and Zep is probably at their peak of power and musical improvisation. Didn't think it was possible for a band to be so locked in with each other. This is an impressive 3 dimensional recording which makes you feel like you are in the 3rd row. Excellent recording which you can play loud an feel the power.

    So these are "must haves" in my book. Working on getting them uploaded soon.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    To be honest, I think they are all must haves. As someone who's got a fairly substantial Dead bootleg collection, my feeling is that nothing offers a better historical accounting of a band than a solid collection of live recordings over the course of the band's run. Dead bootlegs have always been quite prolific, but a similar story there in that in recent years recordings have surfaced of stellar sound quality. This is largely due to the ease of distribution without generational loss that the internet presents.

    In the case of a band as important to the history of music as Led Zeppelin, I don't see how you can call yourself a fan and not grab every one of these recordings, seeing as they're yours for the cost of a bit of your time and pennies worth of disk space. Even if you don't end up listening to all of them regularly and end up with a few favorites, why on earth would you not want to have them as reference material? Following these chronologically gives a fascinating presentation of the evolution of the band.

    Only taking some of them to me is like only wanting to buy a history book with certain chapters that interest you. If you have a book with the complete works of Shakespeare, you wouldn't tear out and throw away a large portion of the book just because you only enjoy Macbeth and Othello....

    Just my two cents....
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    To be honest, I think they are all must haves. As someone who's got a fairly substantial Dead bootleg collection, my feeling is that nothing offers a better historical accounting of a band than a solid collection of live recordings over the course of the band's run. Dead bootlegs have always been quite prolific, but a similar story there in that in recent years recordings have surfaced of stellar sound quality. This is largely due to the ease of distribution without generational loss that the internet presents.

    In the case of a band as important to the history of music as Led Zeppelin, I don't see how you can call yourself a fan and not grab every one of these recordings, seeing as they're yours for the cost of a bit of your time and pennies worth of disk space. Even if you don't end up listening to all of them regularly and end up with a few favorites, why on earth would you not want to have them as reference material? Following these chronologically gives a fascinating presentation of the evolution of the band.

    Only taking some of them to me is like only wanting to buy a history book with certain chapters that interest you. If you have a book with the complete works of Shakespeare, you wouldn't tear out and throw away a large portion of the book just because you only enjoy Macbeth and Othello....

    Just my two cents....

    I agree and as I stated when I started this my only apprehension was the fact that this is primarily and "audiophile" site and quality source material is very important. Bootlegs rarely offer the "quality". Zep is one of the most evolutionary bands I know. They were always pushing the envelope musically to keep things fresh for themselves. They always wanted to mix things up and that comes through more than anywhere, on stage.

    This has been a very liberal cross section of some of the better stuff. I hope to start over again from the beginning for the more hard core fan and offer some other superb shows, but those have much lower quality standards. I felt if the the first recordings I put up were crumbier sounding people would loose interest.

    But, yes, I collect every single show I can get my hands on as this give you the true picture of the bands legacy. They were a live band from day one and with these recordings you can experience some of the power and communion the band had with the audience. There is something magical, to me, about listening to live Zeppelin. I don't get that with too many bands. I collect a few other artists but it's hit and miss.

    I'm 42 and never got to see them live.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Sorry, I've been slammed this week so no recent upload. I will try to get something up on Sunday.............be patient and stay tuned :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Slacker!!!! :D

    Seriously H9, I think I speak for everyone on this thread that we really appreciate what you're doing here. Thanks again and again and again.
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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited August 2008
    I dl'd the Southampton show and left for vacation; I just started listening to it and it totally freaking ROCKS! Thank you H9, you are a fine man to share so much for us old LZ heads.
    Michael
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Glad you enjoyed it!!

    Work has been kicking my **** the past 2 weeks or so and I haven't had time to do anything including the next upload. I leave for a convention in Vegas early Friday morning and won't be back until late Sunday.

    I hope to get something new up mid next week. So everyone hang tight as there is some great stuff to come. A lot of the better sounding recordings (not like Southampton :)) come from several 73/75 soundboards as well as some excellent to superb audience recordings. Mike Millard made some fantastic 75/77 audience recordings and his story is quite amusing. He has become legendary as well as his recordings. There's even a small WIKI on him.

    Stay tuned and thanks for being patient.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    One word..... KASHMIR!!!!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Sorry there was slight interruption at my blog. I have been so busy I just haven't had time to dedicate to this lately. I have the next installment uploaded and I need to write a little about the next installment.

    It should be up later tonight if I don't get side tracked again :p.

    Danke Vienna 3-16-73; Stadthalle Vienna Austria. It's a matrix of 2 audience recordings and a partial soundboard. You don't want to miss this one as the playing will make your jaw drop.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited August 2008
    I had the boxed set of Led Zeppelin my ex wife got mad at me a pawn them. :(
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    It's finally up!! And I won't ask you about your vehicle or the gas mileage it gets in order to enjoy it.

    H9

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited August 2008
    H9 for President. :)
    Startin' dl now...
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Currently uploading a new Essen Germany tape from 1973. Stay tuned it should be on the blog later tonight or tomorrow. Trying to catch up a little bit here.

    After that is Offenburg which is a superb (can't think of a higher compliment) performance with an impressive "3rd row" audience recording that sounds fantastic. Look for this about mid week.

    Just trying to keep up.

    Thanks again for the compliments and I'm glad some of you are enjoying this

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2008
    Great, Brock.

    As for me, I'm always a little slow to get into stuff -- be it new music or old bootlegs. Sometimes, I just need to really wait for the right time and setting to really get hooked. Late last night, as I was downloading the rest of the Danke Vienna shows, I listened to the Southhampton shows on a serious level, all the way through, on my 2channel rig. Wow! You're absolutely right about a diferent sort of feel than the superbly remastered How The West Was Won. And I agree with you, in this case I definately prefer the Southhampton shows with all of innovative tweeks to the slightly more refined HTWWW

    Its kind of like jazz, in general, or Cannonball Adderly, as a specific example. I mean he has a few studio albums which are really top-notch on their own right, but to really hear him shine you've got to pick up his live albums. Thats where all of his brilliance comes through.

    Anyway, listening to Southhamption really made me look forward to other shows from this era, so I was happy to see that you've already got a few in the works this week.

    Thanks man,
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Essen in now up. What a fantastic display of musicianship.

    The version of Dazed and Confused from this concert has left me speechless. It's the single most breathtaking display of cohesiveness I have ever heard. It's brilliantly amazing. Maybe they did sell their souls to the devil ;). I don;t think I have heard a tighter more devastating version than this one during this concert.

    The whole concert is just awe inspiring, but DAC is just spectacular as is the WLL-medley.

    Enjoy! If you don't enjoy this you have no business listening to music. This is the greatest "Effing" band ever!!!!!!!!!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited September 2008
    Working on the next installment. Should be up no later than tomorrow evening. The final European Show I will post for now is "the best". Next up is the American tour and there are some great performances as well as some great sounding board recordings.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited September 2008
    Things are uploading...................slowly :mad: 811MB at a rate of 86KB/s. Probably won't post anything until the A.M. but we'll see.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited September 2008
    Offenburg is now up. Don't miss it!! A superb concert with a very dynamic 3rd row audience recording.

    H9

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited May 2009
    Hiya Brock! Remember us??? I have a few words for ya:

    Oh let the sun beat down upon my face.....

    HOOK IT UP BRO!!! PUH-LEEEZE!!!!
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  • edbert
    edbert Posts: 1,041
    edited May 2009
    Awesome karma. Thank you sir. I will have to get this stuff downloaded when I get into the office. Will this be up for a while on your blog?
    I know just enough to be dangerous, but don't tell my wife, she thinks I'm a genius. :D

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited May 2009
    edbert wrote: »
    Awesome karma. Thank you sir. I will have to get this stuff downloaded when I get into the office. Will this be up for a while on your blog?

    It's almost a year old so I doubt the links still work......the blog is still there. I've had some interest in reviving this.

    I can promise I will try to get this going again shortly. I'll re-up all the original stuff, plus I have some unfinished business ;);)

    Hang tight.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited May 2009
    Actually just tried one of the links and they are still up........well what do you know!!! Have at it Edbert. I;d get a Megaupload account though or you'll be here another year.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sophie
    sophie Posts: 511
    edited May 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Actually just tried one of the links and they are still up........well what do you know!!! Have at it Edbert. I;d get a Megaupload account though or you'll be here another year.


    differently agree with that... i got a few behind and just ended up giving up because i could not catch up. the stuff i have is good though and if any one needs a reseed on the torrents shoot me a pm.

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited May 2009
    Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear....
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited May 2009
    You know what? That line is a WAY better sig than all my freaking gear!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited May 2009
    nspindel,

    Thanks for posting in this thread; I never had the time before to download the files before.

    H9,

    Thanks for taking the time to create the site! Phoned my ISP today and had them bump the cable modem to its highest speed. Now I have all the files on my HD.

    Do you have a file (Word?) containing all the text on the site? I would like to persist and print this for future reference. If not, I will just take it from the site.

    Once again, thanks for taking the time to create the site!!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited May 2009
    "Woman you need coolin'
    I ain't foolin'
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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