Interest Check - Led Zeppelin Karma

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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2008
    Thank you Sophie. The zip files are a big help. Thanks a lot.

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    A new post is up! A really great show.

    Perhaps after listening to this show those that have DL'd can discuss which shows they like best so far and why. Maybe what stands out in some of the various shows as well as discussing the progression of the band.

    I know it's summer and many people get busy, but some discussion is always nice.

    H9

    Blog
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • mudslinger
    mudslinger Posts: 20
    edited July 2008
    Coolbeans heiney9.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    Hopefully by this evening another show will be up. I started uploading this morning and ran out to do some errands and of course while I was gone Comcast (I hate them) interrupted my connection because they suck!!!!. I had to start all over and it takes about 3 hrs to upload a typical show to Megaupload.

    Stay tuned.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • bigyank
    bigyank Posts: 224
    edited July 2008
    Awesome!

    Yank
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    2nd Japanese tour show is up. Pay attention because the next handful of shows coming up are must haves.

    The first are Kevin Shirley's multi-track mixdown working tapes for Southampton University 1-22-73. These were mixed down from a multi-track recording for possible official release. Probably around the time How The West Was Won was in the works, probably one of the alternative choices.

    The 1973 European Tour has some of the best playing ever by the band and Page, perhaps by any guitarist to date.

    Stay tuned ;)

    LZ Blog

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    You Are The Man!!!!!!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
    edited July 2008
    Digging this, H9!

    I've not downloaded too much yet, but I'm a big fan of LZ and I'm a big fan of yours for doing this!

    Thanks very much.
    "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then." Bob Seger
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited July 2008
    Thank you H9 and Thank you Sophie for the torrents (helps for faster downloads).

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Ok, I have a silly question... WTF is a torrent and how do I get in on the action?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Ok, I have a silly question... WTF is a torrent and how do I get in on the action?


    Get your learn on......:)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_%28protocol%29

    Simply put it's a peer to peer sharing protocol. It allows for a wide group of users to share the burden of large files for download. Each person has a part of the entire file and each "share" it with one another. The more "seeds" you have the faster the DL of the material

    Once you are hooked into this type of thing you need to leave the files on your computer HD and you need to keep "access" open in order for it to work effectively.

    It's similar to Lime Wire and Kaaza, etc. I prefer not to participate in torrents especially form a site I know nothing about. But that's just me.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2008
    Ah, gotcha. I'll pass on that. I don't want to leave my machine open...
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    Thanks for the kind words guys! Just sharing the music. Glad many of you are into it.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited July 2008
    H9,
    These Boots are the Bomb! :D
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    The latest show on my blog. Is a superb multi track working tape of the entire concert at The Old Refectory, Southampton University.

    If you've been on the fence or disappointed in the sound quality of previous entries this is near completely mixed professional master. The sound is incredible and you can play it on your main rig and play it loud. Do yourself a favor and dl it. You won't regret it.

    Enjoy

    H9

    LZ Blog
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Awesome!!! Just finishing downloading this latest one, can't wait to get listening.

    Favor to ask H9, can you just confirm the total number of files you've got up there? I just counted and I've downloaded 41 rar's in total, just want to make sure I haven't missed any...
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Holy **** dude. This Southhampton is eff'ing insanely good. Jesus. This is a bootleg???
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    I'm starting to really unpack these and organize, I'm a bit confused though. Why is so much stuff repeated within the different files. For example, in the Southhampton files, part one and part two both have D1 and D2 folders, and lots of songs are repeated. I just want to make sure I'm not overwriting stuff that I shouldn't be. Can you give a "for dummies" explanation of how these are organized so we can unpack them correctly?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Holy **** dude. This Southhampton is eff'ing insanely good. Jesus. This is a bootleg???

    Probably the "best" I've come across in a long time. My guess is it was part of the "working" tapes Page/Shirley used when deciding to put out "How The West Was Won". I knew this concert was professionally recorded along time ago. Never thought it would reach the light of day as a multi-track bootleg.

    Southampton is an almost final mixdown of this wonderful multi-track recording. Jimmy and Kevin Shirley worked an mastering this and it's about 80% complete. Plant's voice is a bit rough and raw but it's a great recording. One thing I like is that no compression or noise reduction had been added yet at this stage and this is a very dynamic recording.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    I'm starting to really unpack these and organize, I'm a bit confused though. Why is so much stuff repeated within the different files. For example, in the Southhampton files, part one and part two both have D1 and D2 folders, and lots of songs are repeated. I just want to make sure I'm not overwriting stuff that I shouldn't be. Can you give a "for dummies" explanation of how these are organized so we can unpack them correctly?

    I certainly can, but I have been out celebrating tonight and I just don't have it in me right now. I'll touch base with you this weekend. No parts of any DL should be repeated.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I certainly can, but I have been out celebrating tonight and I just don't have it in me right now. I'll touch base with you this weekend. No parts of any DL should be repeated.

    In other words, you're too hammered right now! Cool, understood...:D
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    Holy **** dude. This Southhampton is eff'ing insanely good. Jesus. This is a bootleg???

    +1

    I haven't gotten every single thing you've downloaded to date, H9, but when you gave that little blurb the other day about how good these were, I made sure to download Southhampton and burn to CDs. I've been loving them over the last few days. These are my favorite of what I've downloaded so far, due to a) the sound quality and b) that I believe 1972/73 was a very kind period to LZ. Fantastic!

    Nspindel, I had the same issue you did. I downloaded all four parts and it seems that when all was said and done, I had some repeats. But everything was clearly labeled, so when I exported them to Winamp for downloading, I just put together what I think is a two-disc set (9 songs on one, 6 on the other), eliminating the superfulous versions. Hopefully, I got everything.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Norm Apter wrote: »

    Nspindel, I had the same issue you did. I downloaded all four parts and it seems that when all was said and done, I had some repeats. But everything was clearly labeled, so when I exported them to Winamp for downloading, I just put together what I think is a two-disc set (9 songs on one, 6 on the other), eliminating the superfulous versions. Hopefully, I got everything.

    Which show has the double tracks? I'll check into it.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2008
    Southhampton.

    I downloaded each of the four parts, one after the other, and it seemed that after I had everything and began exporting them to Winamp, there were some redundant versions. Actually, it wasn't a big deal because, as I mentioned, you labeled the tracks well such as D1, Song2 etc, etc. so I was able to quickly determine the song order. Again, I had a total 9 songs on one disc, and six on the other? I'm assuming, now, that I got everything.
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Here's some speicific examples. On the Southhampton show:

    Part 1 Rar, there's a D1 folder with tracks 1-9, end with Rain Song, Dazed. The Part 2 Rar also has a D1 folder with track 8-9, Rain Song, Dazed.

    The Part 1 Rar and the Part 2 Rar both have D2 folders, looks like the same 6 tracks in both.

    The Part 3 Rar has a D2 folder, looks like it has tracks 2-6 that are identical to the Part 1 and Part 2 Rar's

    Then the Part 4 Rar has a D2 folder, with what appears to be the same tracks 4-6 as the other three Rar's.

    Did you use some sort of tool to pack these all into rar's? In which case maybe your settings are off or something. Bottom line is I wouldn't go fixing anything you've already uploaded, unless you start running low on space on megaupload. It becomes our problem to deal with the extra downloading and unpacking it all correctly, and who are we to complain?!?!?

    But for your future uploads, you could probably save yourself a heck of a lot of upload time as well as storage space on megaupload if you can track down what's causing this.

    Edit: I noticed similar issues with the other downloads as well...

    Edit2: In fact, looking at the whole Southhampton set, it appears as if the entire 2-cd show is contained in the Part 1 Rar. Not really sure why parts 2, 3, and 4 are even needed!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Too late to edit the above, but unpacking Blueberry Hill, same issue, there's a Disc 1 Part 1 Rar that looks like it has the whole cd, but there's still Disc 1 Part 2 and Part Rar's, with repeated tracks.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    Ah.... But wait a second.....

    I tried unpacking the Blueberry Hill Disc 2 Part 1 Rar, and I got an error saying that it needs the Part 2 rar or it couldn't continue....

    So maybe I'm just not understanding how rar's work well enough. I think the Part 1 file must contain a full listing of all the tracks, but they're not all contained in that archive. The archive must break itself apart, and then the part 1 file indexes into the additional files during extraction.

    So I'm thinking all these rar files are in fact necessary, even though it looks like there's repetition. Interesting....


    Edit: In fact that's precisely what's happening. Watching the status window that the extraction displays, even though I'm only launching the extract from the Part 1 Rar, I'm still seeing files being pulled out of the subsequent archives. So what people need to know is keep all the rars together in one folder, then only extract from the Part 1 Rar.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    So H9, here's a question - anything yet to come going to come close to this Southhampton in terms of sound quality. This thing is just ridiculous....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    nspindel wrote: »
    So H9, here's a question - anything yet to come going to come close to this Southhampton in terms of sound quality. This thing is just ridiculous....

    Nope, that's the best unofficial recording you'll hear to date. The whole story on this show is still a bit sketchy. It was widely available in late 2007 and I haven't been able to pin down exactly how this surfaced. There are some stellar audience and soundboard recordings coming up. But nothing like Southampton as that was a partially (professionally) mixed multi-track. The Mike Millard masters from 75 and77 are superb audience recordings as well as many newly surface board recordings

    The RAR files need to be extracted as parts of all files can be "packed" in any part , but that doesn't mean it's a complete file. One file (track) can be spread out on all RAR parts and then it is "reassembled" when you extract the files from the archive.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Nope, that's the best unofficial recording you'll hear to date. The whole story on this show is still a bit sketchy. It was widely available in late 2007 and I haven't been able to pin down exactly how this surfaced. There are some stellar audience and soundboard recordings coming up. But nothing like Southampton as that was a partially (professionally) mixed multi-track. The Mike Millard masters from 75 and77 are superb audience recordings as well as many newly surface board recordings

    Ok, so we've reached the top of the mountain, from here on it's all about enjoying the view from the top:D Folks, if any Zep fans have been following this with interest, but have not been downloading the material, you're doing a huge disservice to yourselves if you don't at least grab the latest show, the 1973 Southhampton. All I can say is wow, H9 you are the man!
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The RAR files need to be extracted as parts of all files can be "packed" in any part , but that doesn't mean it's a complete file. One file (track) can be spread out on all RAR parts and then it is "reassembled" when you extract the files from the archive.

    Yep, just took a while to figure that out. If you actually open the rar files beyond the Part 1 files it looks confusing. Any downloaders out there new to the multi-file rar format, the trick is that you only need to extract from the Part1 files, that will take care of extracting the files from the Part 2, Part 3, etc. Rar's...
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.