Pure disapointment.........Polk LSi15

treitz3

BottomFeeder wrote: »

Well, doodoo poopoo or not, all I know is that when I went from a 50 wpc NAD to a 200 wpc Adcom, me likey mo' bettuh!

& How come "everyone" (not stacking the deck or anything) seems to think that the LSi15's need a lot of wattage?

My guess would be that it is a "blanket answer" for those that are not in the know that covers what most of the general public needs to know in order to get I]what the general public would consider[/I good sound.

What they need is an amp that is rated and capable of handling a 4 ohm load that also has the capacitance and /or current draw necessary to properly power them. This can be achieved at well below a "200 watt minimum".

Hyper_Lite83

WOW.....

Look at the hate......

Just because I didn't have an amplifier hooked up doesn't mean I can't hear what these speakers are worth.

They were loud and clear, but didn't produce the sound I want. The tweeter is excellent, but the mid area seem to lack any presence in the room.

I understand that you're defending a product you own, but I was NOT impressed with these speakers.

Face

No hate here.

I have never owned a pair, but have heard a few pairs. You need a external amp to get the most of out them, using a receiver to judge what a pair of speakers are worth is fine if they're best buy specials.

tonyb

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

WOW.....

Look at the hate......

Just because I didn't have an amplifier hooked up doesn't mean I can't hear what these speakers are worth.

They were loud and clear, but didn't produce the sound I want. The tweeter is excellent, but the mid area seem to lack any presence in the room.

I understand that you're defending a product you own, but I was NOT impressed with these speakers.

Well...yes,because you didn't power them correctly,how can you judge what they are "worth" ? They may or may not be for you,that,anyone will agree on,but when you demo speakers,you need to make sure to power them correctly,and that is the issue at hand.

F1nut

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

WOW.....

Look at the hate......

Just because I didn't have an amplifier hooked up doesn't mean I can't hear what these speakers are worth.

They were loud and clear, but didn't produce the sound I want. The tweeter is excellent, but the mid area seem to lack any presence in the room.

I understand that you're defending a product you own, but I was NOT impressed with these speakers.

Your AVR can not drive those speakers as they should be driven. I'm not sure what part if that you're not understanding. It does make a huge difference. Also, how long did you let the speakers break in before coming to your conclusion?

Hyper_Lite83

danger boy wrote: »

so you had them in your house for how long? 1/2 day and you decided to return them? I can see a person not liking a certain sound, but man give it time to burn in and show you what it can do at least.

I had them for about 3 weeks.

cfrizz

I'm not interested in paying that kind of money for that smoke, when I can get the same in a cheaper but well made 200wpc amp! What's so hard to understand about that?

Face wrote: »

He's saying there's a 75wpc Mac receiver would smoke many 200wpc amps. What's so hard to understand?

I have a 30wpc amp here that would smoke most receivers. Advertised wattage doesn't mean diddley.

Hyper_Lite83

cfrizz wrote: »

He is one of a whole batch of newbies who picked them up cheap from Fry's clearance sale. He got them cause they were at a good price & didn't bother to research them to find out how to make them sound their best even though he's been here a month.

Now like others he's finding out his receiver doesn't have what it takes, but he's the first one to pack them up & send them back. Hopefully they will go to someone more deserving & better prepared & knowledgeble.

I actually purchased them online.

I did however, visit Fry's in Vegas to find them at less than half the cost of what I paid.

Ron Temple

Hyper started a thread weeks ago over on AVS when he discovered the LSis weren't doing it for him. He was looking for suggestions then, so I'm pretty sure he gave them a decent trial period. Underpowered or not, room issues or not, they just weren't for him. That's fine, he took them back. I'm not sure what his motivation for starting this thread was, but it's ok not to like something. As Doro said, Klipsch might be right up his alley.

treitz3

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

Just because I didn't have an amplifier hooked up doesn't mean I can't hear what these speakers are worth.

You have an amplifier in the receiver, that's NOT what we are talking about. What we are talking about is that you don't have ENOUGH amplification to even remotely listen to what these speakers are capable of.

Had you hooked them up to [let's say] an Odyssey, Sunfire or similar amplifier that was rated for a 4 ohm load, THEN and only then would you get the proper sound out of these speakers. It's obvious that you were not properly amplifying them which is why you have had so many responses.

Listen to what the folks have had to say in this thread. Everybody can't be wrong. In fact, some of us actually DO know what we are talking about. You did not give them a chance and then you come out and say that you were disappointed? Well, to be frank with you.....DUH! :rolleyes:

Hyper_Lite83

F1nut wrote: »

Your AVR can not drive those speakers as they should be driven. I'm not sure what part if that you're not understanding. It does make a huge difference. Also, how long did you let the speakers break in before coming to your conclusion?

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different.

As I stated before they didn't give me that "WOW" factor I'm looking for.

treitz3

F1nut wrote: »

Your AVR can not drive those speakers as they should be driven. I'm not sure what part if that you're not understanding.

Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!

Suuuuuuurrrvey says.......#1 answer! You are the next contestant on "How to amplify a speaker".....Come on down!!!

F1nut

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different.

You couldn't possibly be more wrong.

As I stated before they didn't give me that "WOW" factor I'm looking for.

In the end, that's entirely possible. However, you didn't do what needed to be done to find out.

SolidSqual

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different.

As I stated before they didn't give me that "WOW" factor I'm looking for.

Have you tried separate amps? My guess is no. Why? B/c you are a dumbass and estimate benefits from knowledge you don't have. Come back when you have both sides of the experience to back up your cluelessness.

cfrizz

Thanks for that info Ron.

Now, he went to a totally different forum to ask about Polk speakers when he could have asked us for info here? Yeah ok. Then he starts this thread here complaining that it was the speakers fault that they didn't "WOW" him.

We all know that the LSI's can wow up the wazoo if properly powered.

That could mean anything. If he had said that they didn't have the sound he was looking for this thread wouldn't have blown up, since we can all understand that issue.

Ron Temple wrote: »

Hyper started a thread weeks ago over on AVS when he discovered the LSis weren't doing it for him. He was looking for suggestions then, so I'm pretty sure he gave them a decent trial period. Underpowered or not, room issues or not, they just weren't for him. That's fine, he took them back. I'm not sure what his motivation for starting this thread was, but it's ok not to like something. As Doro said, Klipsch might be right up his alley.

Hyper_Lite83

SolidSqual wrote: »

Have you tried separate amps? My guess is no. Why? B/c you are a dumbass and estimate benefits from knowledge you don't have. Come back when you have both sides of the experience to back up your cluelessness.

When I still had these I tried to borrow an amp, but I couldn't find one locally. I would be happy to give these speakers another "go" if I could find a loaner amp. Are their places online that pay return shipping if this doesn't fix the problem?

dorokusai

It's over guys, he stated he returned them many posts ago, who cares, it's just a speaker.

F1nut

The education never ends, therefore it's not over.

candyliquor35m

Matt must be rolling over in his hot tub about now.

Try this one on for size.

We are sorry you didn't find the Polk LSi15 speakers to your liking and you did the right thing by returning them for a full refund.

We do have other models such as the ___, or the ____ that are easier to amplify than the LSi series. The LSi series is one of our top of the line models but requires proper amplification which often requires a stand alone 2 channel amp to be able to hear the sound that they are capable of producing.

We are here to help you in any way we can and hope you will consider some of our other models which may be better suited at meeting your expectations.

Thank you for your feedback.

Face

cfrizz wrote: »

I'm not interested in paying that kind of money for that smoke, when I can get the same in a cheaper but well made 200wpc amp! What's so hard to understand about that?

It's hard to understand because it's far from true.

Enjoy your setup and have a good day.

treitz3

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different. As I stated before they didn't give me that "WOW" factor I'm looking for.

Man, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there on that one. My experience tells me otherwise. I have had a pair of Carver Amazing loudspeakers and a pair of Polk RTi10's that took on a whole new dimension when properly amplified. The top end saw the least amount of improvement. What came into fruition was the mids, mid-bass punch and most definitely the low end. If you were in my room and you heard the difference between both of the un-properly amplified and then the same two speakers properly amplified, you wouldn't have made that statement.

Now I'm going to poke a little fun at you. If you know how "amplification" works, you might want to learn how to spell it correctly . I'm done poking fun at you now.

These speakers even when properly amplified may not have given you the particular flavor that you were looking for, that's why there are so many to choose from and part of what makes this hobby such a fun past time....but you have to at the very least set up a system capable of delivering what the speaker requires before bashing the speaker. A good friend of mine used to have in his signature "Piss poor planning leads to a piss poor performance", in your case you had piss poor planning.

heiney9

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

WOW.....

Look at the hate......

Just because I didn't have an amplifier hooked up doesn't mean I can't hear what these speakers are worth.

They were loud and clear, but didn't produce the sound I want. The tweeter is excellent, but the mid area seem to lack any presence in the room.

I understand that you're defending a product you own, but I was NOT impressed with these speakers.

Not hating at all if you took my post that way. You weren't at all this descriptive in your original post. More details would be even better. We can only respond to what you write. Sounded like you only had them hooked up for a half day. That's about 13 1/2 to 20 1/2 days too short to get any kind of worthwhile impression. Plus you never even explained your set-up, your music preference what movies sounded good, how the speakers were set up and if you used the proper AVIA disc for HT calibration, or even what specifically you didn't like compared to what your expectations were.

Put up a flippant review and you'll get a lot of flippant responses because we have to fill in 95% of what we perceive your situation to be. Put in a little more effort into your posts; you'll get better responses.

Good luck with your hunt. We still don't have hardly anything to go on to make other (non) Polk recommendations if you even want that type of input.

H9

P.s. It's OK not to like them, but it seems you hardly gave them a fair chance and then totally dogged on them.

Ricardo

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heiney9

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand that you're defending a product you own, but I was NOT impressed with these speakers.

FYI, I don't own LSi's.

ben62670

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different.

You couldn't be further from the truth.

heiney9

Disregard parts of my previous post as I obviously didn't refresh my screen and see the that Hyper had them for 3 weeks. That should be enough time to determine the characteristics of a speaker. Perhaps if you had powered them better the outcome would have been different; or perhaps not (to you), you'll never know. I've found amplification especially separates to be a night/day difference

H9

cfrizz

Outstanding post H9!

heiney9 wrote: »

Not hating at all if you took my post that way. You weren't at all this descriptive in your original post. More details would be even better. We can only respond to what you write. Sounded like you only had them hooked up for a half day. That's about 13 1/2 to 20 1/2 days too short to get any kind of worthwhile impression. Plus you never even explained your set-up, your music preference what movies sounded good, how the speakers were set up and if you used the proper AVIA disc for HT calibration, or even what specifically you didn't like compared to what your expectations were.

Put up a flippant review and you'll get a lot of flippant responses because we have to fill in 95% of what we perceive your situation to be. Put in a little more effort into your posts; you'll get better responses.

Good luck with your hunt. We still don't have hardly anything to go on to make other (non) Polk recommendations if you even want that type of input.

H9

P.s. It's OK not to like them, but it seems you hardly gave them a fair chance and then totally dogged on them.

cfrizz

Thank you I am. And you have a nice day as well!:)

Face wrote: »

It's hard to understand because it's far from true.

Enjoy your setup and have a good day.

mantis

Hyper_Lite83 wrote: »

I understand how amplication works and while they would sound a little bit better it WILL NOT make them sound completely different.

As I stated before they didn't give me that "WOW" factor I'm looking for.

Actually your very wrong here man. When I first got my Lsi's, I had a Denon avr3801. I listened and felt they sounded better then my rt1000p's I had at the time and felt they where nice. I demo'd them a few times on higher end receiver way back in the day.
I also owned a B&K st140 2 channel amp which I preamped from the Denon and found new life with the Lsi's. I further went and picked up a used set of Rotel preamp and 2 channel amp and man did it sound fantastic. I also purchased a B&K avr307 which totally made the Lsi's sing like never before. I was totally into them and found to like them even more I listened to them. Music and movies where effortless. The B&K sounded so damn good with them.

In my opnion, having good electronics to match good speakers makes all the sense in the world. You may not like them at all but you must have heard something that made you spend the money on them.

I suggest you go out and listen to other speakers with seperates and good quality gear. You will hear alot out there, not many better then the Lsi's, not at there price range. Good luck with that.

Dan

steveinaz

I don't care if your running a flea amp, for you to say "...and music sounded horrible" with Lsi15's, I'd be looking upstream. I don't own Lsi15's but I have heard them.